Lady manners school vs Hope Valley College, Derbyshire

LMS i go there and im in year 9.From my primary school there were 16 in my year and 12 of those went to HVC, i know that at least 2 of them wish they chse LMS as it is the best!!! lol. I dont know what your on about saying 6form is like being a year 7 again as they have a load of freedom. Many say LMS is a posh school but its not really so stop people saying that. But dont diss HVC as i have many friends there but it there aways will be rivrally between the 2 schools.
Most of you people don't even know what the schools are like so dont comment.

lolo23, i absolutely agree with you. hvc seems a lot more relaxed but still get the grades this is down to good teaching not a stuffy old fashioned school like lm that some pupils think they are better than one another because their parents have money. i also think that people from sheffield are moving into derbyshire and buying up property that should be for local people.i think they are trying to get free education (as these schools are good schools ) because they dont want to pay for private schools in sheffield it is about time that these parents were means tested and leave places and houses for locals.

Well I have been to both and I can honestly say that I absolutely loved HVC. At HVC there is a fabulously unique relationship between children and staff which is relaxed (within certain boundaries) - the benefit to pupils social development of feeling they can interact and be respected as a person by their teachers is invaluable. Attending LMS 6th form was like being a new Y7 again - heavily disciplined with no freedom to be a person in my own right. Do as your told or be punished, wear your designer shirt or be looked down on... huge social gaps between the rich and poor.
HVC takes in a wide range of socioeconomic groups, allowing children to interact with and experience the various lifestyles people live. There is more openness from kids there about the money people do or don't have - some of my friends never went abroad yet some travelled the world, and it never made an ounce of difference to any of us. Go to LMS and the divides are clear... you know those upper class rugby playing snobs... well... you get the idea...
For me there is NO comparison. HVC has a uniform which is respectable and comfortable - LMS enforce an expensive and awkward ensemble and refuse removal of blazers - at HVC you will see friendly, motivated staff fostering healthy and positive relationships with students - at LMS you will see teachers with dangerously high BP shouting 'BOY! Where is your blazer?!' whilst the students develop a deep rejection of the supression... check out the LMS kids when they get uni freedom and you'll see how much the strict stuff back fires.
HVC is brilliant - the lack of 6th form is difficult, but the transfer to a new environment at 16 prepares you for moving on to uni or life in the real world. LMS kids are shocked when they finally leave the false little world LMS build up around themselves, when they see that the things they place high value on are not important to anyone else.
I also disagree with the hefty donations from certain pupils parents and the refusal of the school to address the behaviour problems of children from the wealthiest families.

My friend's children go to LMS and they are not snooty at all. I do hear that it is a good school though. Three bedroom houses in catchment are less than a three bedroom house where I am (Birmingham) or were last time we discussed it anyway.

I live in Sheffield but DH says one of his fellow partners has children at LMS and that is has a good reputation. Don't know anything about HVC, sorry.

My child attends LMS although we live 5 mins from HVC, I cant understand how people who know nothing abot these schools or about the area can have an opinion on either of them just from hearsay. My child is not snooty but well dressed and good mannered, we chose LMS over HVC having had an awful experience there with a previous child but I know chilren who go and enjoy it. There is a bus service to the school from Hope Valley so the only person that has to deal with traffic (mostly caused from tourists driving impossibly slow) is the bus driver.
LMS also has a strict uniform policy which suits me unlike HVC where the kids look as though they are on vacation all the time.

HVC choir does not only have girls in it. It is a mixed choir with at least 10% of the school involved in it. There were 100 students involved in their recent production of Les Miserables in which many of the boys and girls who have gained experience in the choir were able to show their talents. Both schools are good in different ways.

It would be expensive to live near either to be honest, they are not very far from each other and so house prices are somewhat similar.

However, the fact of the matter is that HVC does not accomodate students from 16-18 and so, if your children would want any decent education, they would have to change wheras Lady Manners has a sixth form meaning the change can be avoided.

Also, the HVC choir is only for girls which is not the case at Lady Manners.

There are other matters, but these I feel are quite central to the debate.

Hope Valley is lovely but epensive. I teach in the next school up from Hope Valley, just inside the Sheffield/Derbyshire border.

It's nice here as well, expensive though

Is the Hope Valley area nice then from a property point of view? We're looking to move and aren't fussy where we go as long is it is fairly open and the schools are good for secondary age.
(sorry to barge in)

I used to work in Sheffield and we got work experience kids from Lady Manners and HVC. There didn't ever seem to be any particular trend in how intelligent the kids from either school were, but LM kids were a bit snootier.

Well we used to get kids from Hope Valley into our 6th form and they were always OK, although catchment has changed and we don't get them any more. I think it was just 6th form catchment that changed.

Agree that Lady Manners does have a certain something, but wouldn'yt you have to get through all that hideous traffic in Bakewell.

I live right on the edge of Sheffield/Hope Valley border, but don't know much about either