Leaving private school for state 6th form - experiences?

@twistyizzy - it is so strange is it not, that they cannot acknowledge that institutions educating for hundreds of years with top notch teachers may not know a thing or too about education, and in particular, educating boys?
Just because they are also educating the elite, does not mean they cannot add value elsewhere. The two are not mutually exclusive and the charitable aims of educational endowments were intended to reach as widely as possible.

Can someone provide a link to the proposed Eton scheme, please?

Many appologies @Araminta1003 I remember now that you aren’t a private school parent. Blame the early morning!

Yes Eton were all set to open schools up in NE specifically to engage disadvantaged children, but Bigot Phillipson put a stop to them. Can't have aspirations you know!

@CurlewKate - I am not privately educating 4 children though, am I! They are in state schools. Yes I could probably just about afford to educate 1-2 in a cheaper private school if I then did not support those at uni at all, never went on holiday, maxed my mortgage out, but I would not do that. Would possibly also cause resentment in the long run.

We do benefit from private schools though. Swimming lessons, hockey, cricket, rugby pitches, countless orchestras and summer camps so I am grateful to private schools for their outreach and value that. County orchestras run at boarding schools, NCO in the past etc etc.
So yes, I am anti VAT on private school fees. It is ludicrous.
If the state and private sector just worked together more the state sector could benefit even more. Did Eton not try and open academies in more deprived white working class areas and got the no no? Where are they with that. They were simply trying to help. And here I am reading another article stating there will be a report on educational underachievement in white working class children. Something people have know for many years. And yet when a rich school tries to help the powers to be don’t embrace the help.

if you privately educate 4 children then you are rich…..

Why do you think rich people should be incentivised to have more children?

@Escapefrom1984 - if by “rich” you mean living in London and a homeowner and in professional jobs paying loads of tax? Yes.
However, no we are not rich, it all goes on taxation and the DCs. We have 4 DC. The tax system here does not acknowledge the cost of having 4 children, they do not let you deduct reasonable amounts like in eg Switzerland. It would make more sense to incentivise professionals to have kids than take every help above a certain point (no child benefit, no help with nursery now, no help with housing or uni costs etc). Pretty much every middle class person now just gets taxed through the roof and disincentivised from having more than 1 max 2 DC and then they are surprised that not enough children are being born.
The thing that the State does not to start acknowledging is that parents are the prime teachers and educators of the next generation.

Well, the universities are “on to it” because they don’t actually give preferential places to state school kids. And I have no reason to disbelieve the parents of children who joined my children’s 6 forms from private schools and were quite open about it. Why would they say it if it wasn’t true? What about the posters on this very thread who have said the same thing? I don’t understand why you’re so unwilling to believe it!

You make some interesting points but you do realise that there are more rich parents with children in state schools than in private schools (I think you are one of them?).

The majority of rich people send their children to state schools (including those in the top income decile). Therefore if you want to raise serious amounts of money for education you need a progressive tax system where everybody pays. You can’t just get other “rich” people to pay.

Dan Neidle has published today some very interesting research on a wealth tax which tackles similar misconceptions. I don’t have the link now but if you google you will find it.

I am replying to a direct Q the OP asked me

@WomensRightsRenegade

Is it possible to block some of these bitter & angry posters? They have zero manners and continue to derail the thread even when asked to stop 🙄 it’s absurd & pathetic!

Cos someone up the street told her when she was food shopping

"I know cos Janet down the street said that's what she's doing" so therefore everyone must be doing it! That's a strawman if I ever heard one!

Give me evidence and I will take you seriously, up until then, sorry!

How do you (and the universities apparently who are ‘onto’ it), differentiate between families who have moved because they can’t afford it, and others who have moved to ‘game the system’?

Which post are you referring to?
The ones you have no answer for?

You're on the wrong side of history supporting this policy which I suspect you now know but just won't dare admit. How is the £0 improving state schools.......sorry, housing........sorry, defence.......sorry, the super massive black hole that Labour have created?

Lucy- have you never listened to a group of private school parents talking about this? I have. Fewer now, because some are realizing it doesn’t work. But there are posters on here in the last day or two saying that you’re more likely to get to university from a state school. I know because people have told me that’s what they are doing. In real life and on here. And if that’s why they’re doing it, it is morally questionable.

Batshittery? Just like the policy you support.
Tell me how happy are you at the % of SEND kids now without a school that can meet their needs? Most likely ecstatic

If standing up for children is batshittery then bring it on 💪

You still haven't answered my Q about how you feel about UK being only country in the world to now tax education.

Which post exactly are you referring to?

I see. You can’t answer the question. Predictable if nothing else.

Positively crawling with straw men….

You said people who move their kids in an attempt to game the system are morally questionable.

You also said ‘universities are on to you’.

So I’d like to know how you know, (and how universities know), what exactly has motivated a parent to move their child from private to state.

What basis do you have to accuse others of being morally questionable when, you have no idea why a family has moved schools. Unless you’re projecting, but I’m sure you’re more intelligent than that.

The policy is that tbf. Look at its impact.

There’s no benefit to a bursary child losing out at any stage, and yet that’s what people overlooked or ignored.

Actually that’s the generous version, some might have thought good if those bursaries go.

This is a subject which draws out batshittery. Ignore, ignore, ignore.

What about those moving state for sixth form to make a political point? There are plenty of those around too, I know a few. They aren’t try to game uni entrance but they refuse to pay the VAT, out of principle. To be fair, I respect that. It’s ludicrous.