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Dyslexia advise for GCSE English

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splenda · 16/05/2025 08:31

Goodmorning everyone! I need some advise regarding DC who has a private diagnosis of dyslexia. He is in Y10 and till now has compensated really well with our support. The school have tested him for extra time assessment and he does not fulfill the need. His results are borderline 86 and they need to be less than 84 to qualify for extra time. Moving forward I am looking for advise on how to support him with his essay questions and English. We feel that he needs that extra time in English to understand the question and then answer it. He had his mocks and struggled with English paper. With his dyslexia I think his main struggles are not the lack of knowledge but to express that in a clear format. And I have noted that this inability to communicate out clearly is present both in verbal and written format. I am thinking of getting him some tuitions for english language. But I am not sure if it should be dyslexia specific or GCSE exam focused. He is a hard worker but I feel he is not able to show his full potential despite the hard work. Any advise on how to support him in Year 11 journey would be appreciated.

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Foxesandsquirrels · 18/05/2025 21:26

splenda · 18/05/2025 21:02

Thank you, I will ask about that in our meeting with Sen. We didn't think about ADD. He did struggle in primary and that is the reason we went to Ed psych privatley. Primary said that it is long waiting list via school. But he has got on well in Secondary. Teachers have always been full of praise for him at parents meetings and no behaviour issues at all, more or less organised with his homework and is not losing his stuff at school etc. He likes to fidget, that is the only thing, in terms of ADD. I think his issues are language specific but happy to explore anything. If we were to explore that route would it be after speaking to school?

I will PM you.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 18/05/2025 21:09

splenda · 18/05/2025 21:02

Thank you, I will ask about that in our meeting with Sen. We didn't think about ADD. He did struggle in primary and that is the reason we went to Ed psych privatley. Primary said that it is long waiting list via school. But he has got on well in Secondary. Teachers have always been full of praise for him at parents meetings and no behaviour issues at all, more or less organised with his homework and is not losing his stuff at school etc. He likes to fidget, that is the only thing, in terms of ADD. I think his issues are language specific but happy to explore anything. If we were to explore that route would it be after speaking to school?

The waiting lists on the NHS are awful - 3 years in our area, so GP advised we went private as it was a case of when not if we got the diagnosis.

It took about 8 weeks to get a private appointment, but that gave time to get all the questionnaires completed by school and external teachers (generally it's one teacher at school that does it, so if they only teach DC for a couple of hours a week they may not know them that well, so we got long-standing extra curricular teacher to fill it in as well), plus send pack of school reports, family history etc.

Psychiatrist gave us the outcome at the end of the assessment and started meds the following day.

It is horribly expensive, especially if you are also paying for the medication. Check GP will do shared care as we've moved to that and it's now free rather than £60+ a month.

Check ups are every 6 months once they are stable, can be more frequent in early months if they struggle with the meds.

They have been life-changing for DD and she is so much more focused and less fidgety on them, and big difference in grades.

splenda · 18/05/2025 21:07

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 18/05/2025 20:54

Duh, realised I'd already posted my tutor finds...

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Yes thank you. You did. I have been looking at mytutor.com. thank you.

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DongDingBell · 18/05/2025 21:06

Dyslexic parent of a current y11 dyslexic child here
Make sure school are assessing him against his weekest skills - mine didn't qualify for extra time on the "most people have these weaknesses" testing they did at the end of Y9. But when I pointed out his weaknesses centered on X, and they assessed against that, he qualified for extra time - and engish, german and Geography are where he really uses it.
English Lang isn't too bad if you learn what they ate looking for. English lit is his real weakness.

Not for english, but other - especially science - bullet points are more then adequate for most answers of 6 marks and less.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 18/05/2025 21:03

Foxesandsquirrels · 18/05/2025 20:36

@DarkLindt @BreakfastClub80 @OhCrumbsWhereNow
That's all really interesting, thanks. My DD has been very lucky and has had lots of support. I wonder if what you all describe at uni is still the case given the massive influx of SEN and the issues with uni funding.

This was in last 12 months for us, but it's a very small specialist university college so they're not dealing with thousands of students.

Considering just how good the notes and systems are, and the particular specialism, I suspect a very high percentage of students are SEN and ND (most of the staff are certainly are... DD spent part of her first 1:1 tutorial comparing ADHD meds with her tutor) and so they just design everything for people who need chunking, scaffolding and multiple learning paths as standard.

We're also lucky in that DD doesn't actually need any support IF things are delivered to her upfront in this kind of format, and has no mental health or social issues.

splenda · 18/05/2025 21:02

Foxesandsquirrels · 18/05/2025 20:34

Can you check if he qualifies for rest breaks and a prompter? Have you looked into ADD assessment? We got lucky with a really lovely psychiatrist who felt it's worth trying meds for my DD because it's so much harder for them to focus after processing everything. It made a huge difference. She also gets a prompter and rest breaks which makes a bigger difference for her than extra time.

Thank you, I will ask about that in our meeting with Sen. We didn't think about ADD. He did struggle in primary and that is the reason we went to Ed psych privatley. Primary said that it is long waiting list via school. But he has got on well in Secondary. Teachers have always been full of praise for him at parents meetings and no behaviour issues at all, more or less organised with his homework and is not losing his stuff at school etc. He likes to fidget, that is the only thing, in terms of ADD. I think his issues are language specific but happy to explore anything. If we were to explore that route would it be after speaking to school?

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OhCrumbsWhereNow · 18/05/2025 20:54

splenda · 18/05/2025 20:06

Thanks. That is nice to know. We will have to wait and see what happens. He looked a bit sad that he has the diagnosis but is not getting the extra time. Not the best situation to be in. Till year 9 he thought he would make it up with hardwork and will not need extra time/support. But now he is realizing others in his class are so much quicker than him. I have got Cgp books for English lit which we cover a little bit over the week. But I have no clue where to start with English Language. I have been looking online for tutors and it is so hard to know which one will be right fit. Maybe will ask around with local mums to find one. Will get there slowly in the end. Everyone here has been incredibly helpful. I was unsure of putting it out here but am glad I did. Thank you once again.

Duh, realised I'd already posted my tutor finds...

daffodil2025 · 18/05/2025 20:44

TeenToTwenties · 16/05/2025 08:51

I would get a tutor for English Language who can
. give very clear instructions as to structure of each answer
. give if needed very clear instructions as to how to find the bits needed for the answer
. give sentence structures for answers

I would also consider having pre-prepared stories / paragraphs that can be adapted / shoehorned in for the creative writing. I have heard this done to good effect but it wouldn't have suited my DD.

Finally I would work generally on planning answers with bullet points to help organisation.

This is brilliant advice. The English Language paper for most exam boards is very formulaic. There are specific ways to answer the questions and exact timings for each question which will ensure he doesn’t spend too much time on the questions with fewer marks (which is often what happens in their mocks).

perpetualplatespinning · 18/05/2025 20:39

@Foxesandsquirrels DSA has tightened the rules compared to in the past, but most still find support more forthcoming than support at school.

Foxesandsquirrels · 18/05/2025 20:36

@DarkLindt @BreakfastClub80 @OhCrumbsWhereNow
That's all really interesting, thanks. My DD has been very lucky and has had lots of support. I wonder if what you all describe at uni is still the case given the massive influx of SEN and the issues with uni funding.

Foxesandsquirrels · 18/05/2025 20:34

splenda · 18/05/2025 20:23

Thank you. Will work on his vocab. His main issue is slowness and grammar. It takes him long time to think about what to write and he is unable to finish his answers because of that. He does go off on a tangent as well and sometimes starts answering the things which are not asked (in Sciences for example. I can teach him that tho but its English which worries me most.

Can you check if he qualifies for rest breaks and a prompter? Have you looked into ADD assessment? We got lucky with a really lovely psychiatrist who felt it's worth trying meds for my DD because it's so much harder for them to focus after processing everything. It made a huge difference. She also gets a prompter and rest breaks which makes a bigger difference for her than extra time.

MrsHamlet · 18/05/2025 20:31

I teach very strict timing for each question - and then to move on. The high value questions are at the end, so it's not a good idea to stick to one for too long.

If it's AQA, please feel free to pm
me and I'll share some pointers.

splenda · 18/05/2025 20:23

MrsHamlet · 18/05/2025 20:14

I've been teaching and examining English for more than twenty years.

In English Language, vocab is more important than spelling - use the best words you know even if you're not sure the spelling is correct.

Thank you. Will work on his vocab. His main issue is slowness and grammar. It takes him long time to think about what to write and he is unable to finish his answers because of that. He does go off on a tangent as well and sometimes starts answering the things which are not asked (in Sciences for example. I can teach him that tho but its English which worries me most.

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MrsHamlet · 18/05/2025 20:14

I've been teaching and examining English for more than twenty years.

In English Language, vocab is more important than spelling - use the best words you know even if you're not sure the spelling is correct.

splenda · 18/05/2025 20:06

BreakfastClub80 · 18/05/2025 17:41

A friend of my DH has severe dyslexia and still went to Cambridge to study Physics, he has worked for an investment bank ever since. My DD is mostly academic too, though this has revealed itself slowly over the years. At this point, I have no idea of her capabilities going forwards, but I would always say never underestimate them!

DD was/is good at swimming and we did encourage that to help build her confidence when she was younger. Not to a high level but enough and it did help to have something to compare to everyone else’s reading ability!

Thanks. That is nice to know. We will have to wait and see what happens. He looked a bit sad that he has the diagnosis but is not getting the extra time. Not the best situation to be in. Till year 9 he thought he would make it up with hardwork and will not need extra time/support. But now he is realizing others in his class are so much quicker than him. I have got Cgp books for English lit which we cover a little bit over the week. But I have no clue where to start with English Language. I have been looking online for tutors and it is so hard to know which one will be right fit. Maybe will ask around with local mums to find one. Will get there slowly in the end. Everyone here has been incredibly helpful. I was unsure of putting it out here but am glad I did. Thank you once again.

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BreakfastClub80 · 18/05/2025 17:41

splenda · 17/05/2025 21:07

@OhCrumbsWhereNow That is nice. It is good she has a talent away from academics. My DS is academic though. He is good at maths and enjoys physics and chemistry. I don't know how much dyslexia will be factor for him in later life. He is hoping to study maths at university.

A friend of my DH has severe dyslexia and still went to Cambridge to study Physics, he has worked for an investment bank ever since. My DD is mostly academic too, though this has revealed itself slowly over the years. At this point, I have no idea of her capabilities going forwards, but I would always say never underestimate them!

DD was/is good at swimming and we did encourage that to help build her confidence when she was younger. Not to a high level but enough and it did help to have something to compare to everyone else’s reading ability!

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 17/05/2025 21:18

Foxesandsquirrels · 17/05/2025 21:03

Really? How? (I'm genuinely curious)

In our experience:
Superb course notes on VLP. All pre-chunked.
No more than 2 short paragraphs per page and accompanied by a picture, audio file and/or video clip.
Interactive quizzes every couple of pages to test and check understanding.
Links to chunky chapters for those who prefer ALL the content in academic style.
Everything geared up for tech. Every lecture recorded and available to rewatch as often as your like.

All assignments can be presented in a variety of formats. Don't want to write an essay? Make a video presentation instead.

Above all, total acceptance that some kids are SEN and that doesn't make them stupid or any less capable than any other person on the course. They just have learning differences.

A SEN department that doesn't run and hide but is keen to help.

And once you are full-time then DSA.

DD was only part-time doing ad hoc modules, but we had more support there than in 12 years of school education.

DarkLindt · 17/05/2025 21:18

Foxesandsquirrels · 17/05/2025 21:03

Really? How? (I'm genuinely curious)

There is Disabled Students’ Allowance that can be applied for through the government website. This usually entitles the student to 30 hours of specialist study skills tuition per academic year for dyslexia. This is outsourced to private ciders who can source the tutors, as the qualifications needed are extensive. The student contributes £200 to a laptop and is allocated specialist software with assistive technology training to show them how to use it.

Autistic/ADHD students can have academic mentoring as well as study skills tuition. Most universities give disabled students a reasonable adjustments plan (RAP) and tutors are informed (if the student consents) of their disability.

Additional time of 25% for exams is given and most students will be allowed a week’s extension for assignments.

splenda · 17/05/2025 21:07

@OhCrumbsWhereNow That is nice. It is good she has a talent away from academics. My DS is academic though. He is good at maths and enjoys physics and chemistry. I don't know how much dyslexia will be factor for him in later life. He is hoping to study maths at university.

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Foxesandsquirrels · 17/05/2025 21:03

DarkLindt · 17/05/2025 20:47

Universities are much better at supporting dyslexic students than the GCSE and A-level system.

Really? How? (I'm genuinely curious)

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 17/05/2025 20:50

splenda · 17/05/2025 20:39

Thank you and Well done, I think you are doing a great job by boosting her confidence. Unfortuantely, this is the way exam system is. I struggled with my education and now with DS's diagnosis, I often wonder if I have dyslexia too. But I was very determined and got through it in the end. I think resilience matters over everything else. It all works out in the end.
How much do Gcse scores matter for getting into good universities? I know it is very competitive nowadays? I have read that universities are much better in supporting neurodiversity. Good luck to her and I hope she does well! x

Thank you!

How relevant GCSE scores are, are entirely dependent on university and course. No one rule.

DD's specialism is music and nobody has the slightest interest in her academics and grades beyond getting the maths and English over the line and having 5 in total (this includes some big name institutions) - they're only really interested in what she can do on the composition/performance front.

We were possibly lucky that she was so severely dyslexic that it was obvious by Y2 in primary (had to wait till 7 to get the official diagnosis). She was already very upset and feeling stupid next to her peers as she couldn't read or write till nearly 8.

So I just took what she seemed to be naturally good at and decided better to put what resources I had into music lessons and not into boosting academics.

For anyone with a dyslexic child, it's so important that they have something they are good at - art, drama, music, sport... whatever. There are a million jobs out there in areas most of us have never heard of. Find their niche that they really enjoy and celebrate that, keeping self esteem high then helps with academics as well as they're not defining themselves by their grades.

DarkLindt · 17/05/2025 20:47

splenda · 17/05/2025 20:39

Thank you and Well done, I think you are doing a great job by boosting her confidence. Unfortuantely, this is the way exam system is. I struggled with my education and now with DS's diagnosis, I often wonder if I have dyslexia too. But I was very determined and got through it in the end. I think resilience matters over everything else. It all works out in the end.
How much do Gcse scores matter for getting into good universities? I know it is very competitive nowadays? I have read that universities are much better in supporting neurodiversity. Good luck to her and I hope she does well! x

Universities are much better at supporting dyslexic students than the GCSE and A-level system.

DarkLindt · 17/05/2025 20:44

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 17/05/2025 16:07

Absolutely agree with this.

We tried both.

Result was that the incredibly qualified dyslexia tutor made DD cry and told me that they needed years not weeks to make any difference.

English tutor has taught DD enough that she a) looks forward to the sessions b) came out of the exam last Monday on cloud 9 and is looking forward to Tuesday morning.

I pity the examiner and hope they read fluent phonetics as well as English!

We looked into having spell check enabled and just losing all SPaG marks, but apparently she didn't score low enough for that.

I do worry that examiners will read her papers and err on the side of marking down because of her wonky syntax and spelling, even if her content is good. But that may just be me.

@Canadeeio24 are SEN papers sent to examiners with experience of dyslexia or just anyone? I do worry that DD's will look less polished than other kids targeting the same grades.

As far as I know they are sent to any examiner. If your DC gets to university they have a reasonable adjustments plan with a front sheet or sticker stating words to the effect of, “This is the work of a student with SpLD, please mark accordingly”.

splenda · 17/05/2025 20:43

BreakfastClub80 · 17/05/2025 13:42

My DD was diagnosed with dyslexia aged 10 via a short school assessment and was given extra time after this (she did score below 84 on some tests) but I was told by our Senco not to do any external dyslexia testing prior to GCSEs if my DD was coping. The reason for this was that they have to use the JCQ tests to assess for extra time for GCSEs, they don’t accept anything else. So I’d check this before doing any more external tests. We are going to do a full dyslexia assessment after GCSEs, when apparently it will help with support for A levels and beyond.

I would definitely investigate the use of a keyboard if this helps your DS.

I think a good English tutor could help, as opposed to a dyslexia specialist, to really clue your son into how to score points. DD’s school are very clear on technique and this really helps her to focus on the right things. She will lose the points for spelling and grammar, well definitely spelling! Also, once you know what texts he is covering, there are lots of online resources to help.

Best of luck.

Thank you. We were thinking of getting another assessment done. Will hold off for now. I will start looking for an english tutor. x

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splenda · 17/05/2025 20:39

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 17/05/2025 10:47

DD uses a laptop for everything except maths, but she hates with Science that you have to go back and forth between the two. I believe they are trialing e-papers this year, so it may become possible to do them all online.

Weirdly DD is really, really good at English - top set and target of 8 (which she won't get) - but doesn't read, and without software her spelling is completely phonetic, punctuation erratic and syntax very strange. So that is almost all the SPaG marks gone (20% in language papers) which is very depressing. She uses videos and watches a lot of films which seem to help a lot. She say YouTube has been good for English Lit.

She's done a few modules with a university over the last few years in her main subject and that has massively helped with mindset. The difference in support and presentation is night and day. Course notes all properly chunked and presented as words, audio, video and interactive. Options to present final assignment as a video presentation rather than an essay. She knows it's just these exams that are the problem and that's on the exam board, not her.

Teachers and us as parents have done a lot of work to boost confidence and to say that we will not be judging her based on final results, so there will be celebrations if she gets a 5 regardless of target. That's her main worry - that she'll look stupid if she doesn't get the grades the rest of her class will.

Thank you and Well done, I think you are doing a great job by boosting her confidence. Unfortuantely, this is the way exam system is. I struggled with my education and now with DS's diagnosis, I often wonder if I have dyslexia too. But I was very determined and got through it in the end. I think resilience matters over everything else. It all works out in the end.
How much do Gcse scores matter for getting into good universities? I know it is very competitive nowadays? I have read that universities are much better in supporting neurodiversity. Good luck to her and I hope she does well! x

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