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How to handle parents evening with Maths teacher

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LowMaintenance101 · 05/03/2025 14:34

Hi everyone. I'm after some advice in how to handle an upcoming parents evening appointment with my daughter's maths teacher.

She's in Year 7, so this will be her first parents evening in this school. It's a virtual one as the school is undergoing some work and the car park is not usable.

The school encourage students to be present for each meeting.

She has had an issue with confidence in maths since year 5. And then SATS in year 6 really cemented the issue. I worked with the year 6 teacher and each day she sent all her maths work home, so any areas she had struggled with, we could go through at her own pace. Her SATS results in maths were excellent, but she really did put the work in.

Fast forward to secondary school, she has settled in well and is enjoying school overall, but absolutely hates her maths teacher. (She is really happy with all her other subject teachers).

She's been put in the top set for maths, but the teacher is well known for being difficult. The parents have a private Facebook group for each year group and his name has come up a few times. Concerns around him singling kids out in front of the class. The kids are supposed to tell him if they haven't understood anything, but if they do, he tells them off, so they all just stay quiet.

I'd appreciate some pointers in how to handle him. I am not confrontational, and there hasn't been a specific incident that I could raise, but I want to let him know that my daughter isn't responding to his brand of teaching. She is basically just scared of being the next kid to be picked on. And given that she will be at the meeting, I want her to feel that we are advocating for her.

Any tips greatfully received.

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LowMaintenance101 · 06/03/2025 14:04

I just want to reiterate that I absolutley haven't taken part in any discussions regarding this teacher in the parents Facebook group, WhatsApp, or anywhere else.

Seeing the discussions about him has probably clouded my judgement of him (mainly because the sort of incidents being discussed back up the things my daughter says is happening in class).

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Maddy70 · 05/03/2025 23:45

Firstly stop bitching about s professional in s what's app group if you have concerns about your child speak to the teacher

noblegiraffe · 05/03/2025 23:31

Your DD definitely doesn't need to be present for this appointment.

Do not mention any slagging off on social media or anything any other parent has said.

Do say that your DD struggles with his teaching style, she lacks confidence and is concerned about being picked on to answer questions and what does he suggest? See how he approaches it (understanding or total dick) and maybe go from there.

How is she getting on in assessments?

Do report kids being called thick and slow to the HOD, that's not acceptable.

SnugNightsss · 05/03/2025 23:21

Penterist · 05/03/2025 18:17

Your DD can step out of the room for your talk with the maths teacher although having your child with you is massively beneficial for this one time and this one subject I would perhaps not have her in front of the computer.

I would probably say she lacks confidence in maths in year 7 and feels she cannot put her hand up to ask for help in class and you would like his help going forward. Prepare what you are going to say, we always had post it notes attached to the screen so we could read it off without it looking overly prepared.

Sadly there will always be teachers who she doesn't get along with or like their teaching style and year 7 is always a massive transition anyway, lots of new teachers, different styles of teaching and new subjects. So even in that she is doing well. Keep working on her self belief, she is coping with the work and now knows how to use the calculator. There is usually a talk through of the calculator functions as it is new to all students.

Is there anyone with an older sibling at the school who might want to do some peer on peer teaching? It helps cement their knowledge too.

Just seen your update on name calling, I would be all sweetness and polite in the face to face meeting with him but I would be wanting to talk to the head of year. I failed maths GCSE due to an abusive derogatory name calling teacher. Passed on a resit and I am still angry about it decades later.

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I would also be speaking to the Head of Year to say my child was scared due to the name calling of other children. It’s really not on at all!

surreygirl1987 · 05/03/2025 22:33

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 05/03/2025 19:17

Ganging up against him on Facebook or WhatsApp is horrible and a witch hunt, based on nothing more than gossip. Please don't do this or refer to this in your meeting. Listen to what he says firstly. Then explain that your daughter lacks confidence. What can you and she do to help? Do not mention the situation with other pupils as that isn't appropriate. Your daughter will encounter many teachers who have very different teaching styles. You can help her deal with that.

I absolutely agree. Whatever you think of this teacher (and you admit there's been no specific incident with your daughter), you should feel ashamed of this. No wonder teachers are rapidly leaving the profession. Want better teachers for your child? Don't gossip about them on social media. The day I find out this is happening to me is the day I walk out of the job.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 05/03/2025 20:09

An awful lot in your posts is about gossip and rumour about the teacher. You need to take all of that out of the equation as it's clouding your judgement.

The top set for maths in secondary school is fast paced. You've admitted that maths isn't your DDs strong point. She had daily intervention at primary school and now has a tutor to keep up. No wonder she's struggling and feeling anxious.

The first question I'd ask is how he thinks your DD or performing. You might be surprised. But if the class is causing her anxiety and she needs a tutor in Y7 just to keep up, something has to give.

I'd ask to move her down a set so she can learn at a slower pace. If that's not possible this year, at least you can make sure it happens for Y8.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 05/03/2025 19:17

Ganging up against him on Facebook or WhatsApp is horrible and a witch hunt, based on nothing more than gossip. Please don't do this or refer to this in your meeting. Listen to what he says firstly. Then explain that your daughter lacks confidence. What can you and she do to help? Do not mention the situation with other pupils as that isn't appropriate. Your daughter will encounter many teachers who have very different teaching styles. You can help her deal with that.

LowMaintenance101 · 05/03/2025 19:08

Thanks everyone, I really do appreciate all the advice. I'll definitely make some notes and have some questions ready.

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Oblomov25 · 05/03/2025 18:38

Hmm tricky. I wouldn't want her moved out if set 1 if I could help it. Maybe talk to Head of Maths first.

Re parents evening take some notes of things you want to ask.

Penterist · 05/03/2025 18:17

Your DD can step out of the room for your talk with the maths teacher although having your child with you is massively beneficial for this one time and this one subject I would perhaps not have her in front of the computer.

I would probably say she lacks confidence in maths in year 7 and feels she cannot put her hand up to ask for help in class and you would like his help going forward. Prepare what you are going to say, we always had post it notes attached to the screen so we could read it off without it looking overly prepared.

Sadly there will always be teachers who she doesn't get along with or like their teaching style and year 7 is always a massive transition anyway, lots of new teachers, different styles of teaching and new subjects. So even in that she is doing well. Keep working on her self belief, she is coping with the work and now knows how to use the calculator. There is usually a talk through of the calculator functions as it is new to all students.

Is there anyone with an older sibling at the school who might want to do some peer on peer teaching? It helps cement their knowledge too.

Just seen your update on name calling, I would be all sweetness and polite in the face to face meeting with him but I would be wanting to talk to the head of year. I failed maths GCSE due to an abusive derogatory name calling teacher. Passed on a resit and I am still angry about it decades later.

LowMaintenance101 · 05/03/2025 18:15

@CoffeeBeansGalore she hasn't mentioned that word, but things like "thick", "slow" etc.

@Thatcannotberight yes, I hadn't thought about the shortage of maths teachers. Probably why there doesn't appear to have been any action taken so far...

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Thatcannotberight · 05/03/2025 18:09

There's a huge shortage of Secondary maths teachers. School will not rock the boat, the teacher will not change. It's a shame about linked sets at your school, my son is still in top sets for English and Science. He gave up asking for help in lessons, I think the teacher just expected the brightest children to follow without needing detailed explanations. My son was even too afraid to go to homework club, in case vile teacher was on duty.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 05/03/2025 18:05

Does he call the pupils retards? At dd1's school a number of parents complained about a maths teacher and after investigation he left with no notice.

LowMaintenance101 · 05/03/2025 17:52

@Ohapal yes - this was my concern also. I've heard on the grapevine that there's been official complaints about him before and while a couple have had their kids moved to different classes, it doesn't seem like anything has been done (although of course, things may be happening behind the scenes).

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ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 05/03/2025 17:48

LowMaintenance101 · 05/03/2025 17:47

@ArtTheClownIsNotAMime that is the main reason we went with a tutor. I don't want her to shut down and decide she just can't do it. It's not a subject that she can drop...

I will definitley think about the sets thing, and also speak to her tutor about it.

A tutor is a good idea. I feel for you as there is no easy answer.

StrawberryLane · 05/03/2025 17:48

The school will be judged on the progress dc make from their year 6 SATs. As you coached her a lot in year 6 and she got excellent SAT results, you could continue coaching her or use tutoring to help her keep up with her expected grades.

LowMaintenance101 · 05/03/2025 17:47

@ArtTheClownIsNotAMime that is the main reason we went with a tutor. I don't want her to shut down and decide she just can't do it. It's not a subject that she can drop...

I will definitley think about the sets thing, and also speak to her tutor about it.

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WonderingWanda · 05/03/2025 17:44

Why don't you wait and see what he says about your dd? He might not be a nice teacher but your dd's anxiety might be creating an issue where there isn't one. You say he hasn't done anything specific to her. If she is struggling suggest she moves set. If he brings up that he's like her to put her hand up and ask more then say "She's too self conscious to do that, maybe you could check in with her as you move around the room? If that doesn't get you anywhere then by all means go to the head of year or head of department.

StrawberryLane · 05/03/2025 17:43

RampantIvy · 05/03/2025 17:34

@BoundaryGirl3939 what is grinds? Do you mean tutoring?

It's called grinds in ireland

StrawberryLane · 05/03/2025 17:41

If you've coached her through year 6 maths, you might need to continue this for her to keep up with the standard they are expecting her to be.

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 05/03/2025 17:40

I loved maths in primary then had a terrible maths teacher for years 7&8 and my progress really suffered. It put me off the subject so badly that I still find myself saying "I'm bad at maths" to this day, when it isn't true. I just have such bad associations with it.

I can't say for sure but I think I would have done better if I'd been moved down a set to work with a better teacher.

Ohapal · 05/03/2025 17:38

Bluntly, the guy is a twat and couldn’t give a shit about your dd. I would not rock the boat - your dd will pay the price and become his new person to pick on. It’s all un-provable and the school will either close ranks or try to do something ineffectively. The guy won’t change.

Carry on quietly with the tutoring and just get through to the end of the school year.

JeanPaulGagtier · 05/03/2025 17:36

If you really feel you need to bring it up you could say you know she worked better with encouragement. It sounds obvious but I do think some teachers forget. However your DD does need to get her head around working with teachers/lecturers who have different styles. They can't all be happy and charmingly wonderful throughout their learning career, unfortunately, so maybe do that alongside to grow DDs resilience.

RampantIvy · 05/03/2025 17:34

@BoundaryGirl3939 what is grinds? Do you mean tutoring?

LowMaintenance101 · 05/03/2025 17:30

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the responses.

I haven't gotten involved in the Facebook stuff, its not really my style, but the things being said on there have correlated with what my daughter has said.

The singling out thing - it's not asking questions, it sounds like quite nasty comments about individual children. At the moment, it seems like it's one particular boy who is getting the brunt of it, but my daughter can be quite anxious and she worries he will turn on her. (An example being - the boy in question had suffered a minor head injury in PE, was taken to student services, deemed to be OK to continue with the day but was told that he must got back to them if he got a headache or started to feel sick. He told the maths teacher that he didn't feel well, and explained the accident, but he was not allowed to leave and ended up vomiting in the classroom).

I definitely agree with secondary school being much more anonymous. It also seems like they are expected to learn much more themselves. As an example, in primary school DD didn't even have a calculator. Now, they have to have a specific scientific calculator, but they are not being shown how to use it. Then in a recent test, part of the paper was to be done using the calculator, but she just tried to everything by hand and ran out of time, so didn't get a good mark.

We have got a maths tutor for my daughter this year. I couldn't keep up with the level of work they are doing now, without a LOT of googling to refresh my memory. She is really pleased with how DD is getting on and says its just a confidence thing. (She has showed her lots of shortcuts on the calculator as well).

I did speak to the head of year about perhaps moving down a set, but due to timetables etc, that would mean she would also move down in English and science, which she is currently doing really well in. Plus, there's the risk that she could swap one unpleasant teacher for another....

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