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Moving from US to London - In Year Secondary School - Which Areas to pick?

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MovingLady · 01/01/2025 23:18

First time poster and appreciate your inputs.

Moving with 4 kids from the US to London for SO's job in June 2025. My partner will be moving in April 2025 to rent a place so we can start applying for oldest son's (Turns 12 in Feb 2025) secondary school (year 6).

Could you please advice on which areas to stay based on following criteria:

  1. Rent range - £4000-£5000 for 3/4 bedroom.
  2. State secondary school that would be easiest for placement after admission process has closed.
  3. 45mins to Farringdon for SO's work commute
  4. Younger kids are 9,9,4 and hoping to get into a state primary school.

We have it narrowed down to the following areas: (1) Ealing/Acton, (2) North Dulwich Triangle, (3) Islington/Angel (4) Notting Hill/Maida Vale.

Should we consider other areas or are these good enough to start getting in touch with rental agents?

Also, how do state schools view someone that is moving from overseas in making exceptions?

Thanks!

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kitchenhelprequired · 03/01/2025 10:39

Farringdon is very well served transport wise. You can go out North/South on Thameslink and East/West on Elizabeth Line. Do you specifically want to be in London? You can for example go out as far as Hitchin for a 45 minute commute, great schools and money will go much further property wise. In almost all cases you can’t apply for school until in the country, that's the child too. Other than at entry points (Reception, Y7 & 6th form generally with some variations) it's only possible to apply for September start from mid July - places have to be available for anyone moving and needing an immediate school place, not held for the next school year. You will need to be flexible and possibly consider home schooling for a time or a school change in order to place 4 children in state school. In your position I would focus search on schooling/housing availability. You obviously can't completely discount one person's commute but everyone else's needs are also important with many factors out of your control. If the DC do activities research suitable options too. (6 international moves, many schools, housing and activities worth of research later)

widgetz · 03/01/2025 09:31

LIZS · 03/01/2025 09:20

There is no September cycle. It is an obvious starting point as beginning of academic year but In Year places are just as likely in June as September. You will struggle to get your 4 yo a place at a school of your choice until you have an address, even if you can apply now. Are your 9yo twins? There may be a consideration to allocate them places together, even if it takes the class over numbers.

"You will struggle to get your 4 yo a place at a school of your choice until you have an address, even if you can apply now."

The OP needs to know which borough she'll be living in, but doesn't need a UK address to put in the application. The deadline for "on time" applications is January 15th. Many good London primary schools are likely to be undersubscribed which means you could apply from anywhere in the world and still be allocated a place in a school that would have been very oversubscribed 10 years ago. The drop in birthrate has been very dramatic, and is blamed on the combination of Brexit, Covid, home working, and the cost of living in London.

Teddybear4 · 03/01/2025 09:30

Does it have to be a London location? If work is near Farringdon then there are many options outside of the City.

As a PP said, anywhere there are lots of places along the Lizzie Line that might be within the commute time, likewise, going up into Hertfordshire, Essex, Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire - where you might get more for your money. Locations along the LNER route from Peterborough south would be worth considering for schools.

LIZS · 03/01/2025 09:20

There is no September cycle. It is an obvious starting point as beginning of academic year but In Year places are just as likely in June as September. You will struggle to get your 4 yo a place at a school of your choice until you have an address, even if you can apply now. Are your 9yo twins? There may be a consideration to allocate them places together, even if it takes the class over numbers.

widgetz · 03/01/2025 08:56

MovingLady · 03/01/2025 04:32

Thanks. These are points I hadn't considered. I didn't realize there would be an option to enroll the kids for a month in June/July. I'm worried that we might get allocated schools really far away if we enroll in June/July vs waiting for the September cycle.

Places come up sporadically throughout the year as families move away. Some families may try to time their move for the summer break, but that's not always easy to do. If they leave in June/July, then those places will be allocated to children who are ready to start immediately ahead of those waiting for a September place.

In London boroughs you can specify up to 6 preferred schools on your application form, in order of preference. If places are available in any of them you will be allocated your highest preference. If no places are available, your local authority must allocate your child a place at another school within the borough. The DfE issues guidance (see screenshot) to local authorities on reasonable travel time, but within a London borough, schools are unlikely to be very far away.

The cohort your son is joining had a high birth rate, so some boroughs may find it difficult to find a place for him. However, if he is out of school for 4 weeks without an offer then something called the Fair Access Protocol will be used. This is where a panel of local Headteachers get together and decide which schools should be required to take additional students even if they have no vacancy.

As I mentioned before, if you turn down an offer, they're not obliged to make you another, but you can always stay on the waiting list for higher preference schools.

Moving from US to London - In Year Secondary School - Which Areas to pick?
MovingLady · 03/01/2025 04:35

TickingAlongNicely · 02/01/2025 09:11

Also if your 4yo will still be 4 by the time he starts school in September you might need to be applying as soon as you he a rough location as that is a normal admissions round not an In Year Admissions round.

Thanks. Didn't realize I could apply from the US. Will get this started asap.

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MovingLady · 03/01/2025 04:32

widgetz · 02/01/2025 08:22

When you move in June he will be in Year 7. He will join Year 8 in September 2025 after the 6-7 weeks summer holiday.

You need to decide whether you want him to start in June or in September, and apply for the appropriate year group.

You will have an address from April. If you want a June place then apply about 2-3 weeks before the move because you will be expected to take up the place as soon as it is offered. If you turn it down, they are not obliged to offer you another. If you are offered a school you don't like, accept it, but stay on the waiting list for your higher preferences.

Places are not allocated on a first come, first served basis. Look at school admission policies on their websites and read them carefully because they all have different ways of prioritising applicants from waiting lists. Usually it is by distance to the school (sometimes walking distance, sometimes crow-flies distance), but there are a lot of schools with alternative policies, (e.g. faith schools often prioritise families who can prove they attend church regularly). Some schools are academically selective but they are usually very oversubscribed and in-year places are rare.

One thing worth mentioning to help you understand the pattern of vacancies - when families tell their schools they will be leaving at the end of July, their vacated places may not re-allocated until shortly after the start of term in September. It's because admissions authorities can't be 100% certain of vacancies until they receive confirmation that the child has either registered at another school or left the area (sometimes families change their mind or their move falls through).

Thanks. These are points I hadn't considered. I didn't realize there would be an option to enroll the kids for a month in June/July. I'm worried that we might get allocated schools really far away if we enroll in June/July vs waiting for the September cycle.

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mitogoshigg · 02/01/2025 16:51

Farringdon on the thameslink line, I lived at Tulse Hill (direct service to Farringdon) or look to the north, harpingdon or St Albans where you'll easily find larger houses. They have to find school places but be prepared to need to have them them at multiple schools at least initially

tortoise18 · 02/01/2025 16:42

BananaDaiquiri · 02/01/2025 12:09

First thing I would do is look at your husband's work location on a map. If the nearest station is Farringdon, it may be that other stations are also close to widen transport options (though Farringdon has great transport links). For example Chancery Lane and Moorgate are both nearby, in opposite directions, one of them could also be near your husband's work. Moorgate being near would also open up the northern line and you could look at areas like Finchley, which I think would get you something in your budget (agree with others that Maida Vale, Notting Hill and Islington are unlikely to get you anything big enough in your budget).

Mill Hill side of Finchley is a quick commute to Farringdon anyway on Thameslink (or change at Kentish Town from the Finchley stations). Plenty of good secondaries in Barnet (council), not sure about primaries.

BananaDaiquiri · 02/01/2025 12:09

First thing I would do is look at your husband's work location on a map. If the nearest station is Farringdon, it may be that other stations are also close to widen transport options (though Farringdon has great transport links). For example Chancery Lane and Moorgate are both nearby, in opposite directions, one of them could also be near your husband's work. Moorgate being near would also open up the northern line and you could look at areas like Finchley, which I think would get you something in your budget (agree with others that Maida Vale, Notting Hill and Islington are unlikely to get you anything big enough in your budget).

Twobigbabies · 02/01/2025 09:15

Numbers 3 and 4 on your list are v expensive areas and probably out of your budget. Ealing is great for schools and you could live a 20-25 min walk from Ealing Broadway and still get to Farringdon within 45 mins. West Ealing and Hanwell are also on the Elizabeth line and you'll get more for your money. Hanwell has a lovely park and nice village feel. In this direction you have Drayton manor and Elthorne which are great secondaries. Primaries are mostly excellent in the borough, secondaries can be trickier. Might be worth calling the schools you're interested in to see how much movement they tend to get in year. Check out the school prospectus on the Ealing gov website.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/153882785?utm_campaign=property-details&utm_content=lettings&utm_medium=sharing&utm_source=copytoclipboard#/&channel=RES_LET

widgetz · 02/01/2025 09:15

TickingAlongNicely · 02/01/2025 09:11

Also if your 4yo will still be 4 by the time he starts school in September you might need to be applying as soon as you he a rough location as that is a normal admissions round not an In Year Admissions round.

Agree with this. You can apply for this with your US address and will probably be allocated a place because many primary schools are currently undersubscribed (falling birth rate). When you get your rental address in April you can update it on the application.

TickingAlongNicely · 02/01/2025 09:11

Also if your 4yo will still be 4 by the time he starts school in September you might need to be applying as soon as you he a rough location as that is a normal admissions round not an In Year Admissions round.

SneakyScarves · 02/01/2025 09:05

MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:40

Will the admission be within some secondary school in the particular borough or will he be asked to travel somewhere outside of borough if they are all full?

He will be allocated a place at the closest secondary school with a place (which may or may not be in the same borough), but it might not be one that you want as the better schools tend to be oversubscribed with waiting lists. Has your partner’s company indicated they might be willing to pay for private school? If so, that would be a much easier process for you as you can apply from overseas and have a bit more certainty.

BlackberrySky · 02/01/2025 08:27

MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:36

Wilmbledon is definitely under consideration. Just seems farther away for my SO's commute.

We will most likely get a relocation agent but wanted to get started on the plans and get some ideas prior to getting them engaged.

There is a direct train from Wimbledon to Farringdon. Takes about 35 mins. Thameslink.

widgetz · 02/01/2025 08:22

MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:33

Ohh Thanks for the clarification! The Years are confusing. I guess it'll be Year 8.

When you move in June he will be in Year 7. He will join Year 8 in September 2025 after the 6-7 weeks summer holiday.

You need to decide whether you want him to start in June or in September, and apply for the appropriate year group.

You will have an address from April. If you want a June place then apply about 2-3 weeks before the move because you will be expected to take up the place as soon as it is offered. If you turn it down, they are not obliged to offer you another. If you are offered a school you don't like, accept it, but stay on the waiting list for your higher preferences.

Places are not allocated on a first come, first served basis. Look at school admission policies on their websites and read them carefully because they all have different ways of prioritising applicants from waiting lists. Usually it is by distance to the school (sometimes walking distance, sometimes crow-flies distance), but there are a lot of schools with alternative policies, (e.g. faith schools often prioritise families who can prove they attend church regularly). Some schools are academically selective but they are usually very oversubscribed and in-year places are rare.

One thing worth mentioning to help you understand the pattern of vacancies - when families tell their schools they will be leaving at the end of July, their vacated places may not re-allocated until shortly after the start of term in September. It's because admissions authorities can't be 100% certain of vacancies until they receive confirmation that the child has either registered at another school or left the area (sometimes families change their mind or their move falls through).

HawaiiWake · 02/01/2025 07:52

Do you have friends for US already in London? I agree you get more space further out but if you want London and your family have friendship group support in London maybe near them? You don’t want to be isolated with 4 kids if your family and friends are in London? The ease of calling someone for 24 hours pharmacy etc, travel in UK is expensive so check the cost.

Start a check list, lots of things to do like sign up for NHS when you get address, sign up for school, get school uniforms, Travel cards for kids so they travel for free on bus and reduced on Tube. Would your kids share rooms? London has lots to offer, free museums and great parks.

UK state schools are usually on catchment areas, very competitive for some schools. So check the schools you like and rent nearby for primary and check for secondary and those with exams or selective entry or siblings policy.

One suggestion, is your husband’s firm have a lot of US personnel? Could he reach out to ask where they located to? It may give an idea of places to choose.
Also, you can google about potential rental area and local amenities. London is very diverse and there are no gated communities vibes so different areas have different feel and local shops. The areas you selected are so diverse and vast, so do narrow it down. Eg. Notting Hill/ Maida Vale should be considered separate areas.

northlondon19 · 02/01/2025 07:35

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155695628

Would definitely suggest you consider further out - this is centrally located in Harpenden which has excellent state schools, it has 5 bedrooms and is close to the centre of town and the station which has fast train line to Farringdon

SnowyIcySnow · 02/01/2025 07:31

Also be aware the 3 youngest could potentially be offered different schools to each other.

The school offered will be the nearest one with spaces. This could be a distance away from your house.

We had to prove the child was in the uk with plane boarding cards and passports (or visas in your case, I guess?) before we could register with the school. Although we were very lucky, and I contacted our LEA about possible places a few days before we came back to the UK, and were offered places - subject to being in school within 2 weeks - almost immediately.

We also finished the school year abroad, and moved in June. The kids went into school for the last month of term. They made friends, we got an idea of where their knowledge was lacking, and basically then started the new school years ready to go.
Be very careful with school years. The English years and us grades don't transfer directly.

If you might return to the US, consider the (not free) American school in London.

TooMuchRedMaybe · 02/01/2025 07:28

RedR1ghtHand · 02/01/2025 07:21

I'd second looking along the Elizabeth Line. Although it's further out than your shortlist, Gidea Park is lovely, you'd get an amazing house under budget and Royal Liberty is an exceptionally good school.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150504938#/?channel=RES_LET

www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/24219386.royal-liberty-school-gidea-park-praised-ofsted/

Is that house really 564 square feet? No way can you get 6 people in a house that size.

RedR1ghtHand · 02/01/2025 07:21

I'd second looking along the Elizabeth Line. Although it's further out than your shortlist, Gidea Park is lovely, you'd get an amazing house under budget and Royal Liberty is an exceptionally good school.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150504938#/?channel=RES_LET

www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/24219386.royal-liberty-school-gidea-park-praised-ofsted/

eurochick · 02/01/2025 07:16

Farringdon is also on the north-south Thameslink line, so it could be worth looking at stations there. You generally get more for your money further out.

Copperas · 02/01/2025 07:11

The Elizabeth line is really important here so it would be worth checking west and east suburbs on this route