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11+ Tuition £££- How much did you spend?

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Twofor · 03/11/2024 10:06

Question to those who used tutors - how much did you spend in total?
I spent an eye watering amount (approximately £6500 over 18months) but for us it was worth it and it has paid off. This is not a bragging post, just want to gage if the astonishing amount is the ‘norm’ for those targeting grammar schools, especially super selectives. For context I am a single parent with no financial support, and from a working class background.

DC is state educated, we are based in Southeast England and top choice was a SS. Tutoring included weekly 2hour group session, mock exams, and a couple of 121s sessions.

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dermalermalurd · 03/11/2024 18:14

As in, £38 in total for each child. It was the fee for three months BOFA online. It familiarised my children with the format of the questions so they knew what to expect. Nothing else was needed. They both got into their highly selective grammar.

dermalermalurd · 03/11/2024 18:12

£38.

demont · 03/11/2024 17:42

Moglet4 · 03/11/2024 15:16

Tiffin in unusual then. Even when I worked in what is consistently regarded as the most highly performing ss in the country, very few were tutored. At GCSE, that changed a bit but only in subjects where parents thought the kids were struggling (all things are relative, they mostly wanted A*s rather than As. Every teacher in my department tutored the kids from other classes after school but none of us had more than 3 each. So about 15 kids out of nearly 200? Not exactly excessive. It’s exactly the same in my local ss - you get approached in year 10 (or often, year 11 these days - which I do find a little odd).

I know a few children attending what are considered the top grammar schools for boys and girls in North London. Every single one of them is using a tutor as they approach their GCSE years.

Choccybuttonsandprosecco · 03/11/2024 17:36

ObsidianTree · 03/11/2024 17:13

Just over 1k for 2 years. 1 hr lesson a week at £45 an hour.

Get also had to do a lot of extra homework each week. Possibly about 4-6hrs each Sunday.

He passed and is now at a grammar school. Is also very smart anyway.

Edited to include cost of books that I forgot about. I think I spent around £400 -500 on all the books the tutor requested over the 2 years.

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You did 4-6 hours every Sunday for extra work on top of tuition for 2 years but he’s very smart?! I’m sure you’re not the only one but this it totally mental to me. That’s basically doing school again for a day on a rest day?!
I say this as I’ve got two in independent preps which are either all through/offered place if appropriate. We have many who are tutoring to “trade up” but I think the world has gone mad in this tutoring lark…..

Tiredalwaystired · 03/11/2024 17:13

Just to add she also has never once been tutored outside of school.

ObsidianTree · 03/11/2024 17:13

Just over 1k for 2 years. 1 hr lesson a week at £45 an hour.

Get also had to do a lot of extra homework each week. Possibly about 4-6hrs each Sunday.

He passed and is now at a grammar school. Is also very smart anyway.

Edited to include cost of books that I forgot about. I think I spent around £400 -500 on all the books the tutor requested over the 2 years.

Tiredalwaystired · 03/11/2024 17:11

These costs astound me. They really do.

My kid went to a non Selective comp and came out with 11 grade 9s. We didn’t spend a penny over our taxes.

I wonder if she would have even stood a chance at some of these schools without tutoring but they should have been clamouring for her in reality. The grammar school system really is private by another route these days looking at this thread. It certainly isn’t merit only.

minisomum · 03/11/2024 17:05

Probably about £100 in total for Bond and CGP workbooks and £60 for a month of Atom.

Plus mine and DH's time as well.

ConditionalCautions · 03/11/2024 17:02

For a one year programme- September yr 5 to august yr 6. I specifically waited to see if they were bright enough before putting them in.

ConditionalCautions · 03/11/2024 16:59

£165 per month (I think) for small group lessons once a week. A few £ on CGP books but all resources provided.

£ on one external practice exam.

Birmingham. Both DC passed. Happy with grammar so worth it for us.

privatenonamegiven · 03/11/2024 16:08

@TheGoldenGate agree with you too.

Just think that too often on threads like this, grammar schools are portrayed as being full of children who are tutored and that this doesn’t happen anywhere else. When in fact many, many children in schools that are not grammars are tutored massively especially in KS4 and 5.

I also think the amount of tutoring that goes on during the GCSE years makes it very difficult to decide which schools are good etc as this is a factor that can’t be controlled for etc.

Fireworkwatcher · 03/11/2024 15:51

This is really interesting - we did 3 terms of one session a week which was £38 - I’d never added it up - but would have been £1500 plus the books . It was a normal Grammar not SS . Worth it - the right place for DC

TheGoldenGate · 03/11/2024 15:51

Sure, absolutely @privatenonamegiven In all kinds of schools kids are tutored. I have nowhere argued that they are not. I just disagree with the notion presented above that in superselective they are not. - yes they are.
I would say that there two variables here that impact it: affordability and how ambitious are the parents.

privatenonamegiven · 03/11/2024 15:48

TheGoldenGate · 03/11/2024 11:46

@Moglet4 and very few continue to tutor once they get there.

Should I have not have friends with kids at Tiffin Girls and Tiffin boys I might have had believed it. Not few but many are tutored.
My son has a math tutor who is tutoring two of them...

I have a child at a super selective and another at a “Normal” secondary school and I can assure you that just as many are tutored in the none grammar school as are tutored in grammar schools.. it’s a middle class thing rather than a grammar versus none grammar.

TheGoldenGate · 03/11/2024 15:44

Even when I worked in what is consistently regarded as the most highly performing ss in the country, very few were tutored.
@Moglet4 do you think that my son's teachers are aware that he is tutored? Of course not as I don't advertise it. Many don't
No, his tutors are not from the school.
I don't do that because he is uncapable. I do that to give him competitive advantage in the subjects that he will need A-A* to get to a good uni

Moglet4 · 03/11/2024 15:16

TheGoldenGate · 03/11/2024 11:46

@Moglet4 and very few continue to tutor once they get there.

Should I have not have friends with kids at Tiffin Girls and Tiffin boys I might have had believed it. Not few but many are tutored.
My son has a math tutor who is tutoring two of them...

Tiffin in unusual then. Even when I worked in what is consistently regarded as the most highly performing ss in the country, very few were tutored. At GCSE, that changed a bit but only in subjects where parents thought the kids were struggling (all things are relative, they mostly wanted A*s rather than As. Every teacher in my department tutored the kids from other classes after school but none of us had more than 3 each. So about 15 kids out of nearly 200? Not exactly excessive. It’s exactly the same in my local ss - you get approached in year 10 (or often, year 11 these days - which I do find a little odd).

DibbleDooDah · 03/11/2024 13:14

About £100 on books and we just prepped at home. DD got a place at Henrietta Barnett. She is exceptionally bright. Formal tutoring just wasn’t required. We actually chose a private school instead as felt that it was a better fit in terms of balance and support for extra curricular.

Janedoe82 · 03/11/2024 12:02

TheGoldenGate · 03/11/2024 11:48

My child is also at one of the top of 100 state schools in UK and he didn't need to take a 11 + exam. Not all grammar get into top 100 and there are quite a few comprehensive or catholic or coe schools there

I wouldn’t disagree with you.

TheGoldenGate · 03/11/2024 11:48

Janedoe82 · 03/11/2024 10:41

My child is at one of the top 100 in UK. She did one hour a week with a tutor and a wee group practice for 1.5 hours with 6 friends that was £10. Did this for a year. They all got grammar places- some in a top 25 school. I wouldn’t say any are exceptionally bright.

My child is also at one of the top of 100 state schools in UK and he didn't need to take a 11 + exam. Not all grammar get into top 100 and there are quite a few comprehensive or catholic or coe schools there

TheGoldenGate · 03/11/2024 11:46

@Moglet4 and very few continue to tutor once they get there.

Should I have not have friends with kids at Tiffin Girls and Tiffin boys I might have had believed it. Not few but many are tutored.
My son has a math tutor who is tutoring two of them...

ZestFest · 03/11/2024 11:37

The thing is, it's completely different depending where you are in the country and what type of grammar you're aiming for. Some regions and schools are insanely competitive whereas for others, a bright child could be successful with very little preparation. (11+ tutor here) So the cost of tuition probably depends on a multitude of factors.

Moglet4 · 03/11/2024 11:24

Yellow2024 · 03/11/2024 10:33

I just want to add to this thread for anyone who happens to read this, that we didn't tutor our daughter and only bought books which cost about £20 and spent a couple of hours a week going through them. She passed and now attends a grammar school.

Please do not read this thinking you need to spend a fortune to get into these schools, you don't.

I'm not against tutoring, however I would say that if you need to spend that level of money and time on tutoring that will need to be continued into their schooling as they will be attending with others who are naturally able.

No one gets into a super selective who isn’t already naturally very able and very few continue to tutor once they get there. They sometimes pick it up in individual subjects at GCSE

Boohoo76 · 03/11/2024 11:23

Less than £1000. DC is in a top ten super selective grammar. I have spent more on my other DC on specialist support from a one to one SENCO.

Moglet4 · 03/11/2024 11:20

Twofor · 03/11/2024 10:47

@Moglet4 @Janedoe82 where/are you targeting SS and what region?

SS in the NW and thankfully, it’s paid off!

SoftPillowAllNight · 03/11/2024 11:19

I think the super-selective grammars in London are a different league of competition to non-selective grammars. Living in London borders we've done both and they cannot even be compared. The SS demand that you be the 1 person out of 25 who gets the seat after passing 1 selective test followed by a very tough second test where you are ranked by score. Each mark on the score will hold several children, so every mark you lose will mean you are that much further from getting a place. It's utterly insane and I wouldn't compare it with the prep needed for non SS grammars which were easier with single exam cut off score.

@Twofor - your number is in the right ballpark but it's painful for those who do not get in. I think people need to be realistic about whether their child deserves and is capable of this level of competition before they put too much money into this.

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