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DawsonsGeek · 18/10/2024 13:21

Hi lovely MN. We’re applying for independent co-ed secondary schools and are considering Belmont / Mill Hill, St Margaret’s Bushey / Forest School. I’d love to hear recent reports from parents of these schools (and any other suggestions reachable from north London). It’s for our DD who’s doing brilliantly in a wonderful state primary and one of the top in her class but didn’t get through the 11+ for local grammar / state selective. (Fortunately she’s very chilled out and took it in her stride). And we’re in a state secondary catchment black hole (though have still applied).

We’re aware a super academic school prob wouldn’t be right for her and she really enjoys hanging out with boys so I think a co-ed would suit her better. A lovely, well rounded school is the dream. I’ve also got the fear that she may not get through the private exams either and despite being resilient she really needs a win so I’d love to know any success stories of getting in to these schools. She has a tutor and has been practising test papers etc.

Thank you for reading.

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JessyCarr · 24/01/2026 09:57

@TheSpryRedCat My DS left St Margaret’s in the summer because we moved house. We were all so sorry to leave such a lovely school behind! They invited him (and us) back for senior school prizegiving in September and it was such a lovely occasion, with all the children cheering each prizewinner with gusto. It said it all really - the striving for the highest standards in all they do is built on warmth, kindness, and mutual support. DS is now at a bigger “name” London day school, and the teaching he had at St M has stood him in very good stead as he thrives in top sets still.

Cutie101 · 24/01/2026 07:27

@TheSpryRedCat Yes my child started this year and loves it. It's big enough to have different friendship groups and to be able to find your people, but small enough that it is nurturing. The thing that stands out to us is the kindness; children are kind to each other, staff are kind and really invested in the children. It really is a lovely school. Academically there are a mix of children, there is support in place that children are helped if needed but there are opportunities for real stretch and challenge. It doesn't scream out "posh private school" which we were concerned about, it is very normal and down to earth. We are very happy with the school and our child looks forward to school every day (which is a far cry from their previous school). Please feel free to ask anything you want.

TheSpryRedCat · 23/01/2026 23:26

Has anyone else recently chosen St Margaret's Bushey? Would love to hear recent reviews

LightTripper · 29/09/2025 07:03

We didn't apply no - it was offered on the basis of her test results I think (and maybe her school report). I would definitely ask them, to check the system hasn't changed though!

I think it was a significant amount (but not transformational) - but as their fees are already significantly lower than some of the other schools we were looking at (I remember NBH in particular was very high with not much by way of facilities to show for it) it opened a significant gap between them. I'm not sure the amount was published though, so my impression was it may vary - worth asking them what is possible.

I really did think the pastoral support seemed great, and the scholarship came with some additional stretch/support (though I think most of it was open to non scholarship kids too if they were keen, which I liked - takes the pressure off a bit).

Cutie101 · 28/09/2025 23:10

@LightTripper thank you, that's really useful. Do you have to apply for a scholarship? May I ask is it a significant amount you were offered? BSM is currently our front runner. DD needs academic and pastoral, but without the pastoral it doesn't matter how amazing the teaching is.

LightTripper · 28/09/2025 22:56

We also got offers from both but ended up going a completely different route (Channing, in Highgate - so more central and single sex). In the end Forest pretty much ruled themselves out as despite offering her a place their SEND department were then super off-putting (emphasising how difficult it would be for DD, how noisy the dining hall is, how little space there is for lunchtime play - etc. etc. - obviously not what you get told on the tours, and I suspect basically not true except in as much as it's a very big and lively school - but we've learned in our SEND journey not to go where we aren't wanted - life is too short). It's a shame as DD really liked it, as did we, despite the size - it felt like there were all kinds of kids there and lots of opportunities to do different activities. It was a bit awkward when their Admissions team were then asking why we'd turned the place down... I wonder if they know the conversations their SEND team are having? I guess it just affects few enough children that its' not high on their priority list.

DD got an offer with an academic scholarship from St Margaret's who were much more helpful on the SEND front too - really lovely and detailed in talking about supports they put in for kids who need a bit of help socially or with sensory stuff. It was super-tempting not only financially but also because I got a really good impression of the school and a lot of the senior leadership - it had such a nice feel to it. And they were really impressive on the ways they can stretch the more academic kids and also support those who are finding things more tricky (DD might well have been in both camps in different subjects!) I also really loved the setting - but OH was a bit worried about the academics (they had a not so great GCSE year* which I think was really a blip as they didn't have a head for that year's intake when they were coming in at Y7 - and indeed I think the GCSEs are much better this year - but OH couldn't quite get over those results or Bushey being that bit further out of central London). There were a few other factors but I think those were the main two.

So far she is loving Channing - SEND department have been great but not really needed so far (but it's nice to know they are there and engaged/keen to help) and there are lots of activities DD has thrown herself into (maybe too many, but there's not too much homework for now so it's a good time to try different things out!) The girls seem lovely and she's having a good time, and she's getting to do lots of football and music which are two of her big passions.

I think the lesson to take away is that all these schools are really good (I also know people who are super happy with Forest, and in fact I think DD would have done very well there too - but we just couldn't bring ourselves to send her there without full confidence that they would support her if she did have a wobble along the way).

We are now starting the whole process again for DS who is in Y4, and Belmont/Mill Hill and St Margaret's are definitely both in the frame for him - but luckily we have a couple of years yet until we actually have to decide for him!

*By not so great I mean, still twice as good as the average state school, and really impressive value added scores - definitely worth talking to them about this - I think they really excel at bringing out kids' potential in subjects they've been struggling with! But I think their absolute results have also recovered this year, and when we spoke to them they were expecting that to continue in the future, based on the increasing CAT scores of their intakes over time.

DawsonsGeek · 28/09/2025 13:25

Cutie101 · 28/09/2025 11:22

@DawsonsGeek @LightTripper sorry to resurrect this post but I was wondering what you decided to do in the end and if you are happy, we are also interested in SMB.

We were offered Forest and St Margaret’s Bushey. DD went to taster days at both and we told her it was her decision because both schools are great options. She loved SMB but ultimately went for Forest because it’s a much easier / quicker commute and she didn’t want to spend so long travelling.

We’re only a few weeks in but DD is absolutely loving Forest. And having had to take her in early / pick her up late many times already due to her throwing herself into everything on offer I know we made the right decision! The travelling would have got to us at SMB. That being said, we all thought it was a marvellous school and were sad to turn it down.

However, Forest is also marvellous and DD comes home buzzing every day. There is so much to do, she’s made friends easily, all the staff are absolutely lovely and it has a wonderful, busy, happy, ambitious but supportive vibe to it. We’re thrilled with our decision and so is DD.

Feel free to ask any questions, I know it’s a minefield when applying / deciding!

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Cutie101 · 28/09/2025 11:22

@DawsonsGeek @LightTripper sorry to resurrect this post but I was wondering what you decided to do in the end and if you are happy, we are also interested in SMB.

CanteringAlong · 01/12/2024 07:53

.XelaM. I'm sorry to hear your child is being bullied at MH. Why aren't they dealing with it? Is it being denied by the bully? It is one of the schools I'm considering for my children as we live near. Both very shy and vulnerable to bullying.

There didn't seem to be much outdoor space when I visited - the two sports courts? And I read on here you can't get away from people you may not like. I hoped that the lunch clubs were popular and keep the pupils busy and unable to bully!
I would go in there with their anti-bullying policy and request the next steps are taken.

Foxesandsquirrels · 30/11/2024 21:31

XelaM · 30/11/2024 08:04

My daughter is having a really sad time at Mount House at the moment with bullying not being dealt with 😞 so I definitely wouldn't recommend going there.

This makes me so sad, I remember some of your posts when you moved your DD there and she was enjoying it so much. I hope things improve 😥

XelaM · 30/11/2024 08:04

My daughter is having a really sad time at Mount House at the moment with bullying not being dealt with 😞 so I definitely wouldn't recommend going there.

DawsonsGeek · 29/11/2024 19:47

JessyCarr · 29/11/2024 19:26

@LightTripper @DawsonsGeek

I don’t know Forest myself, but do know families who are or have been happy there. I do (as I said above) know St Margaret’s, so please feel free to PM me if that would be helpful at any stage.

Thank you so much! I don't want to count my chickens before offer day but I'll definitely be in touch if we are fortunate to get an offer. Really appreciate it.

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JessyCarr · 29/11/2024 19:26

@LightTripper @DawsonsGeek

I don’t know Forest myself, but do know families who are or have been happy there. I do (as I said above) know St Margaret’s, so please feel free to PM me if that would be helpful at any stage.

LightTripper · 29/11/2024 18:04

Yes the postcard was a lovely touch! And gave me some confidence DD had actually spoken in the interview (I was a bit nervous she might clam up as she's not always great with new people!)

Fingers crossed we both get the choice - it would be a nice kind of problem to have, I think!

DawsonsGeek · 29/11/2024 13:50

Lovely to hear from you @LightTripper! It sounds like we're in exactly the same boat. I have to say, I've really fallen for St Margs. The headteacher is amazing, the grounds are gorgeous and the pastoral care seems top notch. DD had a great time at the assessment day (the snacks were defo a hit) - and did you get the postcard afterwards as well? Nearly made me cry!

That being said, we were blown away by Forest when we went to see it. It seems like a true all rounder where children can find their passion, and there's no denying that currently it does better academically. For us, it's much easier transport-wise too. A shorter journey and a closer coach stop. But the new head is an unknown and the fees are eye-watering.

If we are in the fortunate position of being able to choose, I have no idea which way we'll go yet, and ultimately I will let DD decide as we love both schools. But, like you say, I also have the fear she may not get in so it might be out of our hands. Fingers crossed for our DDs that they have the luxury of choice. I think they are both fab options.

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LightTripper · 29/11/2024 11:23

Just hopping on to follow really as we are also applying to St Margaret's and Forest for our DD (we also have a DS so keen on co-ed - and also think both of them would suit a more co-ed environment).

I hope your DD had a good time at the St Margaret's Assessment - DD really liked it but is keen on Forest too. I do get the impression that Forest is trying to up its academic rigour, and worry a bit whether DS would actually get in when the time comes - but it does seem a great all round school with a nice mix of sporty kids, academic kids, quirky kids, musical kids - the whole spectrum. There doesn't seem to be much info on the new head but she comes from more academically selective schools I think so maybe that indicates a direction of travel. Lots to think about.

I am keener on St Margaret's at the moment, but I know DH worries more about the academics - it's so hard to really know where will suit them best! I'm trying not to think too much about the details until we know what options we actually have.

DawsonsGeek · 27/10/2024 21:46

muminherts · 27/10/2024 21:20

There is an entrance exam but it’s not the nightmare of London day school admissions. Can Flexi board the odd night if they like as well.

Good to know, I’m still a bit scarred from the grammar 11+! Fortunately DD is not!

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muminherts · 27/10/2024 21:20

There is an entrance exam but it’s not the nightmare of London day school admissions. Can Flexi board the odd night if they like as well.

muminherts · 27/10/2024 21:19

What about St Chris in Letchworth? Good coed and buses from North London. Not a hothouse at all but currently getting very good results.

DawsonsGeek · 27/10/2024 21:11

ivyleafgeranium · 27/10/2024 08:34

We liked Forest and DD was there from 4-16. She ultimately left for a different sixth form which was the right choice (hers). They seem to be trying to go more academic which they weren't when she was there. This was 7 years ago though, and I think there have been changes.

Thank you, we’ve been to see Forest twice and we loved it. Amazing facilities and seems really well-rounded. We’ve registered but I’m aware that it’s more academic than some others we’ve considered and is popular too so I know we need to have other options on the table. But it’s great to hear you had a good experience.

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ivyleafgeranium · 27/10/2024 08:34

We liked Forest and DD was there from 4-16. She ultimately left for a different sixth form which was the right choice (hers). They seem to be trying to go more academic which they weren't when she was there. This was 7 years ago though, and I think there have been changes.

Twilightstarbright · 22/10/2024 18:09

St Edmunds in Ware?

DawsonsGeek · 22/10/2024 16:15

Thank you everyone! Unfortunately some of the schools mentioned don’t have transport from where we live but we’re going to see St Columba’s thanks to a suggestion here so I’m really grateful to you for putting it on our radar.

I did consider St John’s as it’s close to us but heard it’s very strict and a bit old school which put us off. Also football focused and DD couldn’t give two hoots about football despite me trying to encourage her to try it.

I am so pleased to hear the positive report of St Margs as we loved it when we went to see it and thought the headteacher was amazing. We have registered!

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boysmuminherts · 22/10/2024 14:28

Haileybury?

XelaM · 22/10/2024 13:33

Foxesandsquirrels · 22/10/2024 08:16

St Johns in Enfield? They have a very good bus network

This. They have the best door-to-door bus service and gorgeous grounds.

They also have an easy entrance exam to pass, so an easy confidence booster for your daughter.

It's also the cheapest secondary school you will find in London (my understanding is because they have some kind of deal with Arsenal football club).

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