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Eton for one child, nowhere for another - what do you think?

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ThatJadeDreamer · 24/09/2024 17:29

We've been advised that my son is a good candidate for academic scholarship and large bursary at Eton or similar and we are thinking about applications and testing. Both he and his little brother go to a "requires improvement" state school that isn't very good and DS is super bright. We don't have any money to pay fees for private schools. The amount of fee remission/academic scholarship offered by smaller day schools near us is far too small to be helpful, so public boarding school with massive scholarship or regular state school are his only options.
Here's the issue: his younger brother is one year behind him. He's very academic too but not in the same league as older brother, and very different/wouldn't like the same school as his brother.
But how do we explain the difference? If we can't send younger brother to any private school at all, should we decide Eton/similar is off the table for eldest?

I am totally on board with picking schools for kids based on their differing needs but these two different outcomes seem so extreme, I could really use some advice!

OP posts:
LochKatrine · 24/09/2024 21:15

Are you saying that a fifth of boys who go to Eton are from modest backgrounds?

Barbadossunset · 24/09/2024 21:13

Boris Johnson went to Eton on a scholarship. Look how that turned out.
Bingo!
Nicola Sturgeon went to state school. Look how that turned out.

These people with dough can smell the unrich at twenty paces. Whatever connections you think he might make from it, he likely won't because he is not one of them.

1 in 5 boys at Eton have full or partial burseries so that’s nonsense.

NorthWestWise · 24/09/2024 21:00

Imperfectionist · 24/09/2024 18:15

I wouldn’t.

Give your children the same opportunities, from which they can choose to springboard onwards. Going to Eton will be like one winning the lottery and one not. It will change him for life (or go badly wrong).

It’s not like nurturing one talent - eg a flare for tennis, music, maths. It’s a whole different class (literally and metaphorically).

This choice may mean the brothers are not close, not friends as they grow up, have little in common, and even resent each other.

Is it worth that? When as he’s bright he’ll do well anyway?

Ditto, mine are one school year apart, I couldn’t do this, it would tear apart the family with long-term resentment.

I also say try Christ’s Hospital for both.,

SprigatitoYouAndIKnow · 24/09/2024 20:45

Have you asked their opinions? I would have HATED the idea of boarding. I don't think you can hold one back if he really wants to try though.

ItsAShame2 · 24/09/2024 20:40

Have you asked the younger son where he would like to go?
I have twins - one goes to a private school due to her sen needs....the other goes to a local school and that is what he wanted / wants. He likes walking to school and hanging out with his mates....did not want to go private - in fact I used to threaten him with sending him private to motivate and improvement in grades.
Personally, I can't see how you can tell a child with a scholarship they can't go there because their sibling is not bright enough to go too.
Does your eldest want to board at Eton? Are you sure he even wants to go?
Your youngest might dislike the idea of boarding anyway.

semideponent · 24/09/2024 20:12

This is so tricky.

Here are things I think you need to consider. For context I have a DH who was super bright and got into Oxford at 14 (took place at 16) whose parents didn't actively try to find what was right for him academically when he was a child. He just took A levels at the local tech.

I also have a DS (less bright, but still bright who went to an Eton equivalent for three years 13-16 and then to a local day private sixth form).

  1. Think about the effect of your decisions on the sibling relationship
  2. Bear in mind you're going into teen years when peers and peer relationships become more important. DH still has friends from that time and they are very different intellectually, always have been.
  3. Be skeptical of the promises you hear from e.g. housemasters. what they promise you or tell you is probably based on the good relationships they have with some boys, and not the more difficult relationships they have with others. Matron can be a key figure too. There's staff turnover too.
Lemonadeand · 24/09/2024 20:12

My Dad got a scholarship to private school. Went on to a good professional career, nice house, put his kids through private school, multiple foreign holidays a year, you name it. Same for one of his brothers. His other brother wasn’t as academic and has never really held down a job, and recently narrowly escaped prison. Always borrowing money from my Dad and anyone else he can.

Why would it have been right to hold my Dad and my one uncle back because of the other uncle? I certainly wouldn’t be where I am today if it weren’t for the opportunities my Dad got.

TootieeFruitiee · 24/09/2024 20:09

Personally I’d never consider Eton due to ethos. However Christs Hospital school is another matter and accessible for children like your son

www.christs-hospital.org.uk/about-christs-hospital/

Lemonadeand · 24/09/2024 20:08

minipie · 24/09/2024 17:45

Have you looked at Christ’s Hospital OP - a broader demographic than Eton and more generous with bursaries so better chance of taking both boys?

I was going to say the same.

m00rfarm · 24/09/2024 20:06

Who said he would be likely to get in? I think that is a really random comment unless from a very specific source. By all means try, but I would not be putting a post up like this just yet!

ILoveAnnaQuay · 24/09/2024 20:06

I don't know anything about Eton, but doesn't it start from Y9? In which case, where are you going to send him for Y7 and 8?

YeahWellWhyNot · 24/09/2024 20:03

Well I wouldn't. I would send them both to the best I could that wasn't private and suffocatingly expensive. There will be tonnes of extra costs associated. How do you explain to your other son that you cannot do X y Z because of the fees? I think it would really breed resentment.

harrumphh · 24/09/2024 20:03

Tiredofthewhirring · 24/09/2024 18:15

I would be more worried about the emotional damage to your older son from boarding at Eton than your younger son's envy.

Keep both your sons with you and spend money on activities and tutors for both.

that's true, I've heard kids in this situation often see themselves as being sent away while the other child is "kept" and therefore more loved

HauntedBungalow · 24/09/2024 19:58

Eton for one, eBay for the other.

VeryQuaintIrene · 24/09/2024 19:56

Terrible idea, IMO. There are loads of excellent private schools with scholarships - Eton is not the be-all and end-all for a successful life (and nor is Oxbridge).

Newsenmum · 24/09/2024 19:55

I would also seriously consider moving to an area with a much better state school and get your oldest into eton still or equivalent.

Nurserynewbie · 24/09/2024 19:53

My brother went to private school and I went to a below average state. He had reduced fees because our dad worked there.
We had very different childhoods and opportunities and there was definitely resentment. We are still friends though.

Newsenmum · 24/09/2024 19:53

I wouldn’t look at is as paying for one child, because you’re not. One just happened to get in by his own merit. Not letting him go seems very unfair. However please have a very good look at all private schools. He may not actually enjoy Eton. Any good grammar options for other ds?

LochKatrine · 24/09/2024 19:51

The footballing analogy doesn't work, because it's a very specific sporting skill.

pretentious · 24/09/2024 19:49

OP Is this a social experiment?

FrenchandSaunders · 24/09/2024 19:48

How old are they now and who told you this?

mugglewump · 24/09/2024 19:47

Would he enjoy being at a high profile boarding school? Could he get a complex about being one of the poor bursary kids who couldn't afford the ponies, the skiing, the sailing, the long-haul holidays? Might he even resent being sent away to school whilst his brother gets to stay at home with mum and dad? There is a lot to be said for treating your kids equally, and if he is that gifted, he will do well wherever he goes to school.

Ilovelurchers · 24/09/2024 19:45

My brother and I are from very solidly class backgrounds and both went to a private school (though we didn't board) on massive scholarships. I absolutely hated it - I think it has given me the enormous chip on my shoulder I have today - but we were both successful academically so I can't in any way say it was the wrong choice.

It depends on your eldest son's personality really. Does he want to go there? Will it bother him, being around all these super-wealthy people?

Do whatever makes him most happy. And the same for your son within the scope of what is possible. You can't disadvantage one child to make it fairer. If one of them was brilliant at football and the other was only average, would you insist the one who was brilliant didn't pursue his footballing career because it was unfair on his brother?

Life isn't fair.

Dearover · 24/09/2024 19:42

What are you going to do with your eldest in years 7 & 8 until he is old enough to go to Eton? The application process takes a couple of years and how would he get the support he needs? We know someone who got a place whilst living overseas and it seems to have been challenging doing it independently as their knowledge was very different to many applicants.

user47 · 24/09/2024 19:40

It's what Dominic West's mum and dad did. Read a few interviews etc and see what you think.