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Secondary school appeal hearing

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Beizzyanddizzy · 15/09/2024 21:40

Hi everyone,
I have an appeal hearing in Friday.

The school are arguing that they are oversubscribed so the usual arguments.

How can I prove that the school being oversubscribed has not impacted the quality of education. Their gcse results are above average.

Also they have provided me with only this year's PAN. Shall I ask for the last 5 years?

Apparently the suitability survey shows that the corridors are overcrowded. Can I request this?

What other arguments can I put forward for the school being oversubscribed

My sons suffers from anxiety and this school as a very good welfare department compared to the school he is currently attending. Is this a strong argument. They also have a better curriculum. I currently drive him tk school as he is anxious about taking public transport. This means I'm picking up my daughter 30 minutes early from nursery so I'm not late for him..the school I want is a 20 min walk.

Any advice appreciated as I'm desperate for him to get into this school.

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Beizzyanddizzy · 15/09/2024 23:30

TheGoldenGate · 15/09/2024 22:10

You are unlikely to win it without evidence from the specialists ( doctors) But that still may not be a strong enough argument. Did you check any applications for expansion by the school, a permission planning?

We have evidence as he has been having treatment since he was 4 years old

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Beizzyanddizzy · 15/09/2024 23:19

Yes an application was putting December 2019 for 2 more classroom for September 2024 but I can't find if it's been approved

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clary · 15/09/2024 22:24

Hi @Beizzyanddizzy

You need to show that the benefit to your child being at the school would be greater than the detriment to the current school population from admitting them.

You can't argue against them being oversubscribed - presumably they are. So you need to focus on what the school can offer that your child cannot access elsewhere.

How can I prove that the school being oversubscribed has not impacted the quality of education. Their gcse results are above average.

You don't need to prove this and of course you can't anyway.

What other arguments can I put forward for the school being oversubscribed

Again - it is (I presume) so you need to counter that argument from the schol with xyz reason why your son needs to go there.

Unfortunately I agree that the welfare support argument is weak unless you have a medical letter saying that this is the only school that can support your child as they need.

The "better curriculum" is also not relevant as it stands - as in, the panel will take the view that all secondary schools will provide an appropriate curriculum. But there might be something offered at the school that he has an interest or aptitude for - things like computing (GCSE or club), music (orchestra and he has clarinet lessons), German (and his aunt is German) - that kind of thing.

Logistics of him getting to school is not relevant either unfortunately. An 11yo is expected to make their own way, walking or by bus and train, to school - walking up to 3 miles and with transport paid for after that if certain conditions obtain.

KerryBlues · 15/09/2024 22:16

How can I prove that the school being oversubscribed has not impacted the quality of education. Their gcse results are above average.
I don’t understand what you mean by this?
They’re over subscribed, by definition they don’t give places to everyone who applies.
If they did, it definitely would have an impact on the quality of education provided.
I don’t think having to be driven to school is a particularly strong argument at secondary level either, they’ll be expected to make their own way there.

TheGoldenGate · 15/09/2024 22:10

You are unlikely to win it without evidence from the specialists ( doctors) But that still may not be a strong enough argument. Did you check any applications for expansion by the school, a permission planning?

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