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11 plus explanation please

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Hoppityhophops · 14/09/2024 17:07

Hi there,

My son took the 11 plus today but I don't understand how the scoring works tbh. He needs to get 205 (pupil premium) we are well within catchment so I think if he gets 205 he's next on the list for a place after children in care. I don't understand what a score of 205 means though. Can someone explain. Is it a certain percentage or something? He hasn't had tutoring as couldn't afford it but he has done some paper practice papers that were free. He said the exam was easy? Easier than the practice papers. But that he missed the last 5 questions on the first exam as they said but pencils down and he hadn't finished the last 5 but he finished the 2nd paper in time and went back to make sure his answers were right. Does missing 5 questions mean he's unluely to pass? For context he works at greater depth across the board and always has but I'm guessing he's at a big disadvantage not having a tutor and needing to pace himself time wise.

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Hoppityhophops · 15/10/2024 22:28

He did also do the KES one but I'm guessing that we won't even hear from them if he only got 200 on this one.

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Hoppityhophops · 15/10/2024 22:24

Thank you pocket pairs, you too. If I'm honest, I was a bit gutted as it made me think that he mustn't be naturally bright after all if hundreds of other kids are scoring so much higher than him. They did mock Sats tests at achool and he scored greater depth in them at the end of year 5. When Itold him he didn't get a high enough score he didn't seem bothered at all, not in the slightest. He is a very optimistic person though. It is so hard having to tell them they didn't get a high enough score though as a parent. We really would never of been able to afford a tutor though, so it is what it is.

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pocketpairs · 15/10/2024 20:08

Hoppityhophops · 15/10/2024 14:18

Ah mine got just below 200. So not enough. I am proud of him though for giving it a bash with no tutoring or any real practice.

Unfortunately it's a brutal system, where even the brightest can't succeed compared to students that have been tutored for up to 3 years. Onwards and upwards. All the best for the future x

pocketpairs · 15/10/2024 19:42

Tas111 · 15/10/2024 11:28

My son got 230 score not sure enough for bishop vesey

Based on previous years scores, you should be fine. Great score!

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Hoppityhophops · 15/10/2024 18:09

Awww thank you.

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LetItGoToRuin · 15/10/2024 15:00

Sorry to hear that, @Hoppityhophops but well done to your DS for giving it a go. Hopefully there is a good local secondary school where he can flourish.

LetItGoToRuin · 15/10/2024 14:59

@Tas111 I do not believe siblings are a factor in getting a place at Bishop Vesey, but you can check the admissions criteria for yourself.

https://bvgs.co.uk/app/uploads/2024/09/Admissions-Arrangements-2025.pdf

https://bvgs.co.uk/app/uploads/2024/09/Admissions-Arrangements-2025.pdf

Tas111 · 15/10/2024 14:24

My other son already studying there so does he get any priority or not.he will b si upset when he find he got 230 will still apply n see what happens

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Hoppityhophops · 15/10/2024 14:18

Ah mine got just below 200. So not enough. I am proud of him though for giving it a bash with no tutoring or any real practice.

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LetItGoToRuin · 15/10/2024 14:07

He's in with a decent chance, @Tas111, though it may be a bit close - 230 was the cut-off score for BVGS on 1 March for the current year's entry, with 229 the previous year.

They will have offered some more places at slightly lower scores during the months between March and September from the waiting list. Best of luck!

Tas111 · 15/10/2024 11:28

My son got 230 score not sure enough for bishop vesey

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Hoppityhophops · 14/10/2024 19:38

Thanks for this info. I guess we will all be refreshing or emails a lot tomorrow

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pocketpairs · 14/10/2024 17:12

Hoppityhophops · 14/10/2024 14:18

24 hours to go. Does anyone know what time we recieve the email or does it vary?all the best to everyone who gets the results tomorrow.

Varies throughout the day. You should receive it by 5pm latest. They send out in batches, starting at 8am (ish).

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Hoppityhophops · 14/10/2024 14:18

24 hours to go. Does anyone know what time we recieve the email or does it vary?all the best to everyone who gets the results tomorrow.

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TheWrongBus · 12/10/2024 20:47

Mommyingboys · 12/10/2024 20:40

Hi, can you please guide me how to access free atom learning for a child pn pupil premium.
Thankyou

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Link here: atomlearning.com/pupil-premium/primary-schools?srsltid=AfmBOoqbnXsOsxH4ezyGB3dadK7fCpATjseZgEoxt4PANU_eWfiOBOv-

Mommyingboys · 12/10/2024 20:40

pocketpairs · 16/09/2024 01:11

If your pupil premium you should have got free access to Atom learning.

Hi, can you please guide me how to access free atom learning for a child pn pupil premium.
Thankyou

pocketpairs · 29/09/2024 17:04

Hoppityhophops · 29/09/2024 15:56

Oh 17 schools. I see. Goodness, I don't have much clue about all this. I'm not actually that bothered if he passes or not. Hasn't cost us a penny for him to give it a bash. The closest school is a really good one anyway. Im just impatient to know either way.

Even if the result doesn't bother you ..hmmm

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Hoppityhophops · 29/09/2024 15:56

Oh 17 schools. I see. Goodness, I don't have much clue about all this. I'm not actually that bothered if he passes or not. Hasn't cost us a penny for him to give it a bash. The closest school is a really good one anyway. Im just impatient to know either way.

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Warwickshiremum109 · 25/09/2024 17:12

Sorry, I was under the impression that they don’t use the same papers for this exact reason.

Apologies if I have misunderstood. Thanks for reporting and updating, I’ve just seen your post.

LetItGoToRuin · 25/09/2024 15:42

@Warwickshiremum109 I have reported your post myself.

LetItGoToRuin · 25/09/2024 15:40

@Warwickshiremum109 can you 'report' your own post please, and ask MNHQ to remove the reference to the comprehension piece?

Any latecomers to the West Midlands can sit the 11+ any time in the next year and it will use the same test. It is really important not to to give any other children an advantage by telling them the content in advance. It might disadvantage your child if a late entrant does better in the test as a result of information you have shared on the internet, and your child (or any child!) misses out on that last grammar school place as a result.

Your child will have been given instructions at the start of the exam not to discuss content.

Warwickshiremum109 · 25/09/2024 11:57

Interesting comments.

My DD has been tutored for a couple of years. Her strength has always been maths and NRV. She came out of the exam saying the 11+ was much easier than the mocks she’s sat, which I had been told was the case. She did have to guess 5 NVR questions due to lack of time though.

She was fortunate enough to have read one of the comprehension pieces already in school. I think a lot of children had also. (edited by MNHQ)

LetItGoToRuin · 25/09/2024 11:07

Hoppityhophops · 20/09/2024 18:43

So only around 20 percent of the people who take the test actually get a place? I did wonder from the sheer amount of people who took the test surely all these kids can't be from the catchment area. Hundreds of them.

The test is for any/all of the 17 grammar schools in the West Midlands Consortium. https://westmidlandsgrammarschools.co.uk/

Not all of these schools are King Edward VI schools and not all of them have catchment areas. For example, the two grammars in Sutton Coldfield and the two grammars in Walsall do not have catchment areas.

Find My Test Centre - West Midlands Grammar Schools

If you would like your child to be considered for a place at any of the selective grammar schools in Birmingham, Shropshire, Walsall, Wolverhampton and Warwickshire, they must sit the entrance test at a test centre.

https://westmidlandsgrammarschools.co.uk

Tinyviny · 25/09/2024 10:13

My son said NVR was hard. He left one or two questions in atleast 3 or 4 sections. He did ok with rest of the subjects.

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Hoppityhophops · 20/09/2024 18:43

So only around 20 percent of the people who take the test actually get a place? I did wonder from the sheer amount of people who took the test surely all these kids can't be from the catchment area. Hundreds of them.

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