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AQA GCSE English reviews

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WhereAreWeNow · 23/08/2024 13:46

Quite a few of us in the big GCSE results thread are looking at getting AQA English reviewed.

Starting a new thread in case anyone wants to share updates about the review process or have a bit of a moan about AQA!

DD got 8s and 9s in mocks and all classwork. She's an avid reader and writer and she knew the texts inside out. She felt the exams went well. But she got a 6 in Lang and a 5 in Lit. School is definitely asking for Lang to be reviewed.

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Dogsatfifty · 28/08/2024 23:34

Today! Her paper 2 stayed the same. Very strange marking in paper 1!

MysticCatLady · 28/08/2024 23:30

Dogsatfifty · 28/08/2024 23:16

My daughter went up 9 marks in AQA English language paper 1 on review!

That's a lot! When was that?

Dogsatfifty · 28/08/2024 23:16

My daughter went up 9 marks in AQA English language paper 1 on review!

Sittingontheporch · 28/08/2024 16:15

Thanks so much, they didn't get that!

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2024 16:00

@Sittingontheporch yes, I am.

An outstanding mark would be in the region of 150 - there are very very few that good, even though there Ada lots of grade 9s.

Sittingontheporch · 28/08/2024 14:55

@MrsHamlet are you an English teacher? What would you consider to be an outstanding mark in AQA English Language? It was out of 160 and the grade boundary for a 9 was 121.
(Sorry I'm aware that question makes me sound like a massive twat in a thread about remarks and it makes no difference to anything, just adjusting my perception of DC's strengths/weaknesses).

MysticCatLady · 27/08/2024 15:30

@MrsHamlet Thank you, testing different things on different papers seems like it could be it. Although weird that you'd get an A, A* and then an E in one single subject. We'll see when we get the script back.

English literature AQA was a 5 for paper 1 and an 8 for paper 2 which was a 7 overall. DD felt that they had both gone similarly well. I'm still in the habit of converting everything back to old letter grades so I make it high C for paper 1 and a low A* for paper 2.

The differences between papers seems odd but perhaps as you say, they may be looking for different things.

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2024 14:07

I can't speak in detail for history but I don't necessarily think that looking at notional grades for papers is very useful.

In one of my subjects, both papers test the same skills in pretty much the same way, so you'd expect them to be similar.

In the other, they're testing the same skills in a different way with very different content - so it's not uncommon to get quite different marks.

Regardless, looking at the papers is always a good idea.

MysticCatLady · 27/08/2024 13:56

@MrsHamlet Your posts are really helpful thank you. My DD wasn't near a grade boundary in history but she got an 8 on one paper, a 7 (one mark from 8) on one paper and finally a 3 on the third paper. Overall a 6. She thought all the papers were similar in difficulty so the 3 is really odd. We're getting it back to look at, I'm not sure the whole paper was marked.

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2024 13:37

It's honestly not about proximity to the next grade - it's about whether the marking was reasonable.

Reviews don't look for more marks, and they don't consider the marks across the paper or the grade boundary.

Even in my own department, people say "it's worth a try for one more mark". It's easy to say when you're not paying!!!

42isthemeaning · 27/08/2024 13:20

My dd had her Eng Lang moved up a grade 2 years back - as did most of the class! She was 3 marks off a 7.
I wouldn’t risk it unless it was really close to the next grade up.
It must be so subjective when it comes to certain aspects.

MystifyMe · 27/08/2024 13:15

Thanks so much for your help! Much appreciated. Enjoy the rest of your summer holidays!

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2024 13:10

I do it for my school - but I won't be doing so until next term. You can ask!

MystifyMe · 27/08/2024 12:35

Thank you. Would it be the done thing to ask for help from the school with this? They don't have a sixth form so he isn't going back.

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2024 12:19

MystifyMe · 27/08/2024 11:50

Hi, I'm after a bit of advice from you knowledgeable lot. DS has just missed a 4 in English Language by 2 marks. He is still able to do what he wanted at college as he passed everything else at 5 or above. Is it worth me requesting a review of this do you think? English has always been a struggle for him so a 4 would be the aim. Thanks 😊

Ask for the papers and ask someone who knows what they're doing to look at them.

Reviews don't look for marks so proximity to grade boundary is less of a consideration than people think.

MystifyMe · 27/08/2024 11:50

Hi, I'm after a bit of advice from you knowledgeable lot. DS has just missed a 4 in English Language by 2 marks. He is still able to do what he wanted at college as he passed everything else at 5 or above. Is it worth me requesting a review of this do you think? English has always been a struggle for him so a 4 would be the aim. Thanks 😊

MrsHamlet · 25/08/2024 23:51

WhereAreWeNow · 25/08/2024 22:28

@Donhill and @Cloudhopping I didn't realise you could get the papers so quickly. I'm waiting for the school to send me a consent form for the paper to be sent for review. Should I be requesting the paper back myself? Do they just email it to you?

You can't request anything. It belongs to the candidate - they have to make the requests.

Donhill · 25/08/2024 22:50

WhereAreWeNow · 25/08/2024 22:28

@Donhill and @Cloudhopping I didn't realise you could get the papers so quickly. I'm waiting for the school to send me a consent form for the paper to be sent for review. Should I be requesting the paper back myself? Do they just email it to you?

My son had to give permission to the exams officer, and then we got the papers pretty much instantly, exams officer emailed the papers to us within an hour or two. So I think they can access them easily, they just need permission from the candidate before they can do so.

parsleyeatingbunny · 25/08/2024 22:31

WhereAreWeNow · 25/08/2024 22:28

@Donhill and @Cloudhopping I didn't realise you could get the papers so quickly. I'm waiting for the school to send me a consent form for the paper to be sent for review. Should I be requesting the paper back myself? Do they just email it to you?

My Ds requested his from the exams officer at his school and they were emailed to him the next day.

WhereAreWeNow · 25/08/2024 22:28

@Donhill and @Cloudhopping I didn't realise you could get the papers so quickly. I'm waiting for the school to send me a consent form for the paper to be sent for review. Should I be requesting the paper back myself? Do they just email it to you?

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MrsHamlet · 25/08/2024 22:10

Do they actually remark or just check no obvious errors?

They look to see whether the original mark was reasonable or not. Reviews can go up or down - there is no grade protection.

Grade boundaries are totally irrelevant to reviews - that's not part of the process.

lilyathena · 25/08/2024 22:03

Donhill · 25/08/2024 20:26

So I am totally confused. My ds was predicted 7s in lang and lit. And ended up getting a 5 for lang and a 4 for lit when he thought the exams went well! His teacher actually called us and asked if he could request his papers for both as she was shocked by both.

So we requested the papers and I’ve looked at them but can’t tell anything - except that all the pages are present, all the necessary questions are answered and all marks included and he isn’t near grade boundaries. I am waiting for his teacher to advise, but in the meantime asking the great experts of mumsnst…. is there any point of requesting anything? Do they actually remark or just check no obvious errors? We aren’t completely skint but I would rather avoid the cost if it’s a pointless exercise but on the other hand feel these marks will hold him back… so how does the review/remark actually work?

If the school have asked your permission to view scripts, I'd assume they are looking at them. it's great that they have called you this early when most staff are still on holiday and not in contact, which suggests a real level of commitment to his outcomes. I would keep in touch with them and get their feedback before doing anything. If there is some distance from the boundary then they are obviously checking if he did something unexpected or whether there is a major marking error.

lilyathena · 25/08/2024 21:59

Cloudhopping · 25/08/2024 20:09

Following advice here we've managed to get the scripts of my dd's OCR Eng Lit and Lang as she got far below expected (6 and 5)

English Lit is the most peculiar with one mark off a 9 on her first paper and just scraping a 4 on her second. I've read them and despite having an English Lit A level, I can't tell whether the second paper has been marked accurately or not. My dd uses a lot of flowery language and I can only think that despite this it didn't really answer any of the questions properly.

For those in the know, does the pattern of a nearly 9 in one paper and scraping a 4 in another a common thing? To add a bit of context, her other essay subjects-history, drama and RS were 7-8.

No this is not a 'common' difference and would for me trigger at least wanting to get her script for the lower paper looked at by a specialist to check what has happened. She might have done something daft under pressure l like answered the wrong question with information on a different text or simply answered the questions she 'wanted' rather than the questions that were there...but equally likely is that the marking is wrong. I would suggest get the script that is low and get a specialist to check it against the mark scheme and marked exemplars. Unfortunately degree in the subject won't really help in interpreting the mark scheme IMHO - the whole system is an exercise in jumping through crazy hoops rather than the essence of what the subject really is (thanks to our friend Gove). But do ensure that the school don't send back the paper that got the notional 9 for a ROM, as odds are, from what you say, it may have been rather generously marked and would go down!! Hope that helps.

Deerinheadlights · 25/08/2024 20:26

Lit Paper 2 seems to be the odd one this year. I’ve been looking at my students’ marks and there’s a significance difference. I’m bewildered by some of the grades this year to be honest.

Donhill · 25/08/2024 20:26

So I am totally confused. My ds was predicted 7s in lang and lit. And ended up getting a 5 for lang and a 4 for lit when he thought the exams went well! His teacher actually called us and asked if he could request his papers for both as she was shocked by both.

So we requested the papers and I’ve looked at them but can’t tell anything - except that all the pages are present, all the necessary questions are answered and all marks included and he isn’t near grade boundaries. I am waiting for his teacher to advise, but in the meantime asking the great experts of mumsnst…. is there any point of requesting anything? Do they actually remark or just check no obvious errors? We aren’t completely skint but I would rather avoid the cost if it’s a pointless exercise but on the other hand feel these marks will hold him back… so how does the review/remark actually work?

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