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Yearly warning not to take A-level maths with less than a 7 at GCSE

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2024 14:49

GCSE results day and therefore A-level sign-up day is coming.

So with that in mind I just thought I'd post the table of conversions from GCSE to A-level results for maths to show that there is a strong correlation. This is because A-level Maths basically starts with a quick review of grade 8/9 GCSE algebra content and then gets more difficult. Students starting with a 7 will have to work very hard to keep up, students with a 6 often flounder.

There are sixth forms and colleges that will accept students with a 6 onto A-level maths, but from many years of experience, this is not a good experience for the student. Many will drop out and switch courses early on (and therefore not appear in the results table), but some will struggle on for 2 years and then come out with a grade that really doesn't help them with university applications.

If you take A-level maths with a 6, even if you manage to complete the course (and a lot won't), about three quarters will get a D or below, with E the most common grade.

This data is from 2019 because obviously more recent data has been screwed up by covid.

If your child is keen to do maths, but gets a 6, please consider Core Maths which is designed to be taken alongside 3 A-levels and provides supportive maths content for A-level sciences and social sciences (e.g. psychology, geography).

If your child is going to do A-level maths (particularly if they are on a 7 but also 8/9), check that they have done summer bridging work so they hit the ground running in September.

Yearly warning not to take A-level maths with less than a 7 at GCSE
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MeanMrMustardSeed · 20/08/2024 17:31

Please can everyone understand that the stats are on a population level. Of course there are those that got a 6 at GCSE and then A*/A/B at A level, but that is pretty irrelevant when discussing the general point OP is making. I think it’s very good advice, and it’s useful for parents to know.

Hoppinggreen · 20/08/2024 17:25

Thank you for this info
DS is going into Y11 and DH keen for him to do maths at A level the year after but I have heard that you need to really love Maths to do well at A Level and while DS will probably get a 6 (maybe 7 on a good day) hes a bit "meh" about it (although he's meh about most things to be honest). I have urged caution and DH has told me I am being negative, I have kicked the can down the road by suggesting we see what DS Maths teacher thinks

Lampzade · 20/08/2024 17:21

noblegiraffe · 20/08/2024 15:29

If someone has a good reason for their 6 at GCSE like illness, bereavement or no teacher, and they should have done much better, then they could potentially do well at A-level if they work hard to catch up. But if the 6 is something that they worked their socks off for and is the pinnacle of their GCSE achievement, then it's much less likely.

Totally agree

Overrunwithlego · 20/08/2024 17:07

Any thoughts or data on how performance on GCSE further maths might predict a level performance? So for example scoring an 8 on maths and a 6 on further maths?

minisnowballs · 20/08/2024 15:36

Yes @noblegiraffe we have a Ukrainian foster daughter. She took her GCSEs with just a year in the UK. Got a 6 in maths. Predicted A * for A Level as her English has caught up (also she's got over the shock a bit). I'm glad her school was able to be flexible in her case.

noblegiraffe · 20/08/2024 15:29

If someone has a good reason for their 6 at GCSE like illness, bereavement or no teacher, and they should have done much better, then they could potentially do well at A-level if they work hard to catch up. But if the 6 is something that they worked their socks off for and is the pinnacle of their GCSE achievement, then it's much less likely.

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SuckPoppet · 20/08/2024 15:27

It can be done , and is done, as the chart demonstrates.

And there will be mitigating factors that allow and enable that: particular reasons for underachieving at GCSE, poor teaching, exam issues, late developer etc.

But my Dc who got a 9 in maths and A in Further Maths still found A level hard (got an A)

Spirallingdownwards · 20/08/2024 15:19

dizzydizzydizzy · 20/08/2024 15:17

DD2 got a 6 in GCSE maths and a B in A Level maths. She also got 5-6 in combined science and got B in both Biology and Chemistry.

So she falls in the 6.5% in the chart achieving that grade from a 6 start.

dizzydizzydizzy · 20/08/2024 15:19

Think DD2 was young for her age and also a summer born baby. She grew up a lot in 6th form.

dizzydizzydizzy · 20/08/2024 15:17

DD2 got a 6 in GCSE maths and a B in A Level maths. She also got 5-6 in combined science and got B in both Biology and Chemistry.

Toomuchcuddles · 20/08/2024 15:08

erm….I got a B at GCSE maths and a B at A level maths

I just a useless teacher at GCSE most of the class did worse than expected!

Themillandbakery · 20/08/2024 15:04

My child achieved a 7 in GCSE decided against taking maths for A level - after a term he switched to maths and achieved an A* in his maths A level last year. So can be done.

rochenut · 20/08/2024 15:03

I can’t get my head around a school even allowing this.

On the basis that they did, I’d probably be suggesting my child move!