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Y11 2023/24 thread 5 - results!

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Techno56 · 21/07/2024 12:10

New thread as no 4 is nearly full

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MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 18:37

I just think that as an advertising message it is disingenuous of a school to write it

I totally agree.

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:34

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 18:22

I understand what you're saying but grades 1-3 are passes. For some students, they're bloody good grades too.

I agree and I am not disrespectful of those grades and am aware of the doors that these grades would open to students (my DD wasn't expecting to get the grades she did so we were looking at what to do with these grades)

I just think that as an advertising message it is disingenuous of a school to write it

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 18:33

A pass is anything between 1 and 9.
4 is a "standard pass"
5 is a strong pass
U is a fail

The student in my class who got a 3 and a 2 passed. He and I were delighted because he'd overcome a lot to get those.

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:32

Panic71 · 22/08/2024 18:29

A pass is a 4

Agree, so if a school said 100% pass the vast majority of people would expect a 4/C and above.

They would not expect the school to include 1,2 or 3's

(Although I appreciate these allow access to level 1/2 course at college, there would be the expectation of resitting maths and English)

Countrylife2002 · 22/08/2024 18:29

DD is very good at English Lang and in all her mocks got virtually full marks. She got a 9 right on the grade boundary, which was very odd for her (happy with it obvs). But it didn’t really make a lot of sense so interesting to read this thread .

Panic71 · 22/08/2024 18:29

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:14

But it is disingenuous.

A prospective parent reading that would not have thought the school considered Ds, Es and Fs as passes.

A pass is a 4

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 18:27

@MrsHamlet for my DS 3s and above are fine and we weren't expecting as many above that originally (he was predicted 4s and above by Y11 though) however if you read a private school had 91% pass rate you would probably assume that meant 4 and above. Obviously they do publish more detailed info so you would look but it does feel misleading as I know they'll plaster it on massive billboards for their advertising.

On one hand they do have 25% of the kids with dyslexia/similar issues there plus a separate learning support unit for more severe difficulties so it is good to get that sort of % passes whatever they are but on the other I also have some real issues with the school and the way my DS was treated so maybe I am being a bit bitter about it.

stopscrollingandgettowork · 22/08/2024 18:25

Update : daughter has managed to enroll in a level 3 course at college. under the provision that she is assessed after a term to check she’s keeping up and does an English resit (she passed one English and close to the second one so shouldn’t be too bad) in November. - if she’s struggling she will have to go to level 2.

massive relief as we thought she was going to have to do a level two year . She hasn’t got onto the t level she wanted , but she can get to the same place at the same time with what she’s enrolled on , and she’s genuinely excited.

skated in by the skin of her teeth has the little darling!

Spacecowboys · 22/08/2024 18:23

Also AQA .

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 18:22

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:14

But it is disingenuous.

A prospective parent reading that would not have thought the school considered Ds, Es and Fs as passes.

I understand what you're saying but grades 1-3 are passes. For some students, they're bloody good grades too.

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 18:22

@ASongbirdAndAnOldHat it absolutely makes no sense, I don't really understand such huge devastation over getting an 8 instead of a 9 at GCSE but to be predicted 8/9 and get a 5 is a huge shock and can make a big difference with A Levels. I hope there is some reviewing going to happen for them.

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 18:20

mightyducks · 22/08/2024 18:15

My DS did AQA

There are so many dropping several grades for AQA Eng, it feels so wrong. Since 2022 exams the kids have had a pretty raw deal with exams/grading. Its been pretty stressful for them.

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:20

Also AQA and a lots of disappointed students expecting 8/9s but got 5s.

Particularly odd as my DD got a 5 in Lang and not expected at all, we were hoping to scrape a 4 and yet her friends who are really good at English and planning to study at A-level got the same grade.

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 18:19

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:14

But it is disingenuous.

A prospective parent reading that would not have thought the school considered Ds, Es and Fs as passes.

exactly, I think it is wrong. Perhaps they did have 91% pass rate but over 3% of that was DS and his 2 friends, DS is top or 2nd set for everything (just struggles with exams due to his processing disorder) so I find it hard to believe that they were the only ones.

mightyducks · 22/08/2024 18:15

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 18:03

The Eng lang exam with the huge discrepancies, what exam board is that? My DSs school do Cambridge which is 50% coursework, absolute game changer for them I think.

My DS did AQA

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:14

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 16:17

In reality they are all passes. If a school is reporting 100% pass, it could be 4+ or it could be 1+.

If colleges etc want 4, that's different.

But it is disingenuous.

A prospective parent reading that would not have thought the school considered Ds, Es and Fs as passes.

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 18:03

The Eng lang exam with the huge discrepancies, what exam board is that? My DSs school do Cambridge which is 50% coursework, absolute game changer for them I think.

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 18:02

There definitely is hope for those DC who didn't get as expected, esp at the lower end. My friends DS I mentioned earlier got a 4 in Eng Lang, 3, 2 in Science and 2s in everything else, they went to their college appt expecting to only get on a L1 (which is what the website states) but they are on a L2 in Criminology and Psychology which is great for them. Not all 16 yos are ready for the level of work involved in A levels so hopefully by the time the L3 course comes round they will smash it.

I am so happy for my DS, he has so many additional needs that to get the results he needs plus an apprenticeship (which now he can move onto higher levels with the grades he got) is amazing. 4s would have been perfect, 5s he is so pleased with. It does get to me when I hear people saying how disappointed they are with an 8 rather than a 9 as I know DS could study 10 hrs a day and never achieve that but I have to remind myself that it's al relative.

Ellerby83 · 22/08/2024 17:58

To buck the English language trend ds got
2 9s
2 8s
4 7s
2 6s
One of the 9s was Eng lang and was a surprise. He had got a 6 or 7 in mocks.

Spacecowboys · 22/08/2024 17:56

mightyducks · 22/08/2024 17:22

Seems from the messages I’ve read English language grades have been lower than expected for many? My DS was predicted an 8, came out with a 6, he was picking it for A-level but based on his results he has picked Geography instead, 7. I’m wondering if he’s been too hasty based on the many messages I’ve seen about English language.Doesn’t help it’s the only one we don’t have an actual grade for!

Yep, ds and his friends straight 8’s in mocks and 5’s today. There was even a 4. The teacher is wondering what on earth went wrong. I remember it being similar last year.

Gazelda · 22/08/2024 17:45

mightyducks · 22/08/2024 17:22

Seems from the messages I’ve read English language grades have been lower than expected for many? My DS was predicted an 8, came out with a 6, he was picking it for A-level but based on his results he has picked Geography instead, 7. I’m wondering if he’s been too hasty based on the many messages I’ve seen about English language.Doesn’t help it’s the only one we don’t have an actual grade for!

DD was predicted 9 in eng lang and got a 6. She got a D for spoken element. And got 8 in mocks.

She's very disappointed, particularly as she thought both papers had gone extremely well, but I'm trying to get her to focus on it being a great grade.

Jellybeanz456 · 22/08/2024 17:45

mimbleandlittlemy · 22/08/2024 12:31

Did he to BTEC rather than GCSE?

Yes he did I realised after I posted it says sports tech award.

Vespanest · 22/08/2024 17:43

EdithBond · 22/08/2024 16:32

I’m sorry to hear that. She must be so upset. But A levels certainly aren’t off the table if those were her mock and predicted grades. She could retake enough at college and then start A levels the following year. Or go through the BTEC system, which might suit her better as a mix of coursework and exams. I’d also suggest getting advice on allowances for anxiety, as they can provide reasonable adjustments in exams.

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Thank you, it was off the table for next year as the most important thing now is getting her strong again and working on her self esteem. The most concerning part is no one could see just how much she was struggling. Your suggestions are really helpful.

Tulipvase · 22/08/2024 17:42

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 17:29

You do. The school just can't easily make it fit in the results slip because there are too many pieces of data.

I meant on the slip we are given.

gingercat02 · 22/08/2024 17:41

We got marks for every paper, which is interesting reading! The surprise 5 in Spanish makes more sense when you read the marks (he got a 3 in his mocks)

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