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GCSE computer science: Daughter was refused a place

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iloveteddies · 17/06/2024 13:40

Hello, my daughter was refused a place, and the excuse is the course is oversubscribed. I know that very few girls applied and lots of boys, and the class is going to be mainly boys and potential 2-3 girls from what I know (not official school communication). The school is saying that a computer program selects and they cannot be biased towards the girls because that would not be fair for boys. Also to add they all have an assessment that they have to pass to be considered. My daughter passed that exam. I don't think there is a chance she is going to be given a place now,but I feel this is still unfair for girls. So many people are saying we don't have enough girls in STEM but yet schools are not enabling even the ones willing to do STEM subjects. Does anyone know if the school has to tell you what is the class composition. Does anyone have any adivce/comment. I know is not going to change it for us but I can't stay passive about it.
thanks.

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LonginesPrime · 17/06/2024 14:26

This doesn't sound like a sexism issue, so I wouldn't pursue that, but I think it's fine to ask what criteria was applied to the computer selection process applied and where DD came out.

Obviously, a human was involved in determining the selection criteria, so it sounds like a bit of a cop-out for the school to blame the magic computer for its mysterious determination as to which pupils were given a place on the course.

For example, was it the top x highest-scoring pupils? Or randomly selected from the pool of all pupils who passed the test? Were additional criteria applied (maths target grade, etc)? At least knowing this might help to accept that it was fairly decided or reveal something worth trying to challenge.

As PPs have said, she can still do A-level CS and can learn the GCSE content in her spare time if she's interested anyway, so it shouldn't close any doors for her.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 17/06/2024 14:25

Fairydustandsparklylights · 17/06/2024 14:12

Randomly generated is the fairest process. It would be unfair to the boys otherwise to give the girls places and then randomly select from the boys. Take it up with the school but don’t spout your sexism rubbish.

Well said!!!

GrammarTeacher · 17/06/2024 14:23

Dragonsandcats · 17/06/2024 13:55

If it was randomly selected surely that’s the fairest process? If there were so many applicants could they not run another class.

Doubtful. There's a real shortage of Computing teachers.

iloveteddies · 17/06/2024 14:22

Unfortunately, they haven't got more teachers. Thanks everyone for all their comments/inputs even the not kind ones. Thanks so much for all the suggestions regarding going about in an alternative way, really appreciated.

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Fairydustandsparklylights · 17/06/2024 14:12

Randomly generated is the fairest process. It would be unfair to the boys otherwise to give the girls places and then randomly select from the boys. Take it up with the school but don’t spout your sexism rubbish.

DressCodeHelp · 17/06/2024 14:09

Both of my sons did it and even though they loved CS (one studied it at uni) it is fairly dry. You don't need GCSE CS for A level CS or even for a CS degree. At that level they are looking for maths. If she wanted to study it then I can recommend Craig n Dave on youtube who cover the whole content.

What are the alternative subjects she can take in that timetable slot?

Singleandproud · 17/06/2024 13:59

Randomly selected via achievement is the fairest process

If she really, really wants to do it and it's going to lead to a career or future university aspiration them appeal on that front, don't bother bringing the sex split into it.

Alternatively ask if she were to teach herself - and attended computer club after school if they run one could she sit it as an extra GCSE, even if you have to pay for it. If DD is that desperate for it she'll be self motivated enough to do that plenty of resources are available.

Dragonsandcats · 17/06/2024 13:55

If it was randomly selected surely that’s the fairest process? If there were so many applicants could they not run another class.

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