How oversubscribed are your local schools? Will they be able to take on students who are currently privately-educated?

ups sorry not 26 children were without an offer. 126 children had zero offers on March 1st...

Currently there are 126 children without an offer of a secondary school place, compared with 68 at this time last year.

still problem with see that" there are no places in my LA"?

I was talking about secondary schools. Please see the National Offer Day this year. Only one school met all preferences as I said. 26 pupils got no place at all

@Zwicky there's an excess of 423 Y7 places for 2025/25 in my "inner London" borough alone + 392 in the neighbouring one, and it's even after private schools' campaign asking parents to apply to state schools to flood councils with applications.
So everyone is welcome to join our diverse and relatively well-performing state schools :)

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/data-tables/permalink/9b0f1a4e-682e-49ce-9cd8-08dc8a203a6d

I think it may depend on exactly what SEN the child has (this is a very broad range), the degree of that and the school.

some independent schools have amazing support for dyslexia/ dyspraxia.

My DS is extremely disruptive if not carefully controlled but very bright. His current school manages his behaviour through a combination of support / encouragement, stress toys, a special room when it gets too much and a very strict discipline. At you ne point he had a performance chart with ticks for each class. he is doing very well academically under this regime and also does not disruptive to other children.

we will see what happens in state school. I suspect continued academic excellence (I will also support him from home) but also much worse behaviour - unless they can dedicate the same focus to him.

Number of schools in England (primary and secondary) number of places, number and % oversubscribed and number and % undersubscribed.

Nationally 18 % oversubscribed and 81% undersubscribed. There is a breakdown per LA which is interesting. Some LAs over 40% oversubscribed. Struggling to see any “there are no places in my LA” areas

School places per LA and nationally 22/23

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/data-catalogue/school-capacity/2022-23

In general it's a shame that there are blind spots in schools' catchment. In Scotland you just know what school your child will be attending if you live in the designated area in Y6. In the US it doesn't even matter what year you move into the area - you are getting a place in local schools (but you have to free it if you move outside of catchment, or parents can get prosecuted iirc).

That is exactly what I am saying. The additional state schools are already needed.

not in my borough. There are no free spaces at secondary level. Every single school has waiting lists now and only in one all preferences were met. 26 children were not offered any school on the 1 March despite of selecting 6 schools. They would need to travel more than 1 h sometimes to the school

But they won't because there is space in the less popular schools.

In a big city whether it's private or state you just go to the next available school. Of there's none it should definitely be built.

Thomas's Fulham primary.

it is a very small school. No wonder all siblings take spaces.

You’ve inferred incorrectly as I’m interested in the policy and the reaction to it (lots from private school parents & largely indifference from everyone else.) I don’t think it will have the negative impact on a large scale which many private school parents are trying to paint. I can’t get worked up about a policy that I don’t perceive as damaging and which ultimately will be helping children. I know that’s not what people who are going to have to stump up more cash or go to Plan B for their children want to hear, but that will be the position of many people in the country.

well actually it is a big deal if the state schools are oversubscribed. New schools or expansion to the existing schools should be built.

@TheChipmunkSong it's not superselective, just Thomas's Fulham primary. What I'm saying it's not only state that schools get oversubscribed, plenty of private schools are so no big deal.

which borough is that?

Superselective private schools are everywhere in London.

And why would siblings criterion matter in private school? It is 11+ result that matters.
Are you sure you didn't have in mind state school?

I live in a London borough where local people can't get into local private school because it's so popular that all places are taken by siblings ferried from outside the borough. So even in private sector people learn to compromise you know.

I live in the London Borough where all secondary schools but one have been oversubscribed.

Totally.
I think these arguments are being used to try and gain support from the general public and state school parents. Vat on private school fees will affect you too ( and we’ll make sure of it) so get behind us on opposing this. But it is not the right approach, has the opposite effect.

We live quite near the former site of the other, girls only, one, which went bust a decade ago without any warning to the parents and without a VAT inspector in sight. I might have suspected 'not quite local' parents moving their DC out,, finding their home address newly 'IC' for the grammar schools with the new, Admissions Code compliant admissions policy coming in, thus saving their fees and petrol money, but the year groups had been tiny for years.

(We are a 'green grammar' family, apart from DD's initial year at one of the 'less desirable' - but for her stream, absolutely fine - comprehensive schools. And her inexplicable defection to one of the 'blue grammars' for sixth form, which she regretted).

Apologies for the sidetracking, folks

As if houses in the catchment for good schools are sold for peanuts at the moment :)) why are they trying to scare us?

@gowiththeflow67 do you think private schools still will have nerve to keep increasing fees after VAT is introduced?

There will definitely be some that have to leave. But the point is, it's just not right to introduce a tax midway through a cycle, is it? You must see that it would be much better, less of a logistical nightmare for both parents, state schools and indies if they phases it in.

Most parents paying for private will be able to absorb the increase. All this talk about how people are going to move to the better areas en masse, pricing others out is just stupid. That’s almost like saying we will make sure one way or another that we get the places in good state schools and sod everyone else. Absolutely not the way to garner support from the 90% + of parents who have kids in state schools. It just sounds like entitlement and no one gets behind that.

Yes!