How oversubscribed are your local schools? Will they be able to take on students who are currently privately-educated?

And this is only average on the picture. Here where I am only grammar schools have better results. All Catholic schools are Outstanding here ( visited within last 2 years) , the 5+ on GCSE gets 78-82 percent of kids( depending on which particular Catholic school), 7+ gets 44-48 percent.

The waiting list to get to those schools is long, very long. And the schools are oversubscribed hoping to go back to PAN numbers

Not sure where you live but even on average Catholic perform much better than comprehensive schools or CoE. ( See the image) How is it possible that you don't know that if you apprently worked and attended them?

In most places Catholic schools require baptism certificate and certificate of Catholic Practice from the Priest

Nope. Catholic schools my entire life. The ones I've worked in generally take anyone, as there aren't enough catholics to fill the places. And we definitely don't get better results than other schools.

You are talking about CoE schools. Catholic take practicing catholics. And yes, overall they have much better results that comprehensives

It definitely won't sway my vote which will be labour. It will change our lives for the better so the private school issue won't make a difference to us, my kids are at an amazing state school. Yes I'm thinking about myself just as people who vote conservative are just thinking about themselves. There are places in state schools even if the majority moved their kids which will never happen.

How? I've spent my entire life in faith schools, in one way or another. My kids don't go to one. In fact, my kids are in the worst school in the area. Not because I'm trying to make a point, but because that was where they wanted to go and because they're happy and I know that teachers, generally, try their best.

Maybe I've just been unlucky, but the faith schools I've been in haven't been any better than their non faith rivals. And increasingly, they take pretty much anyone who agrees to uphold school values, regardless of religious background. Most of the kids I've ever taught tend to be incredibly resentful of anything to do with religion, as I was... when I attended faith schools as a child.

and private schools are of a lesser inequality? Or county grammars destroying local comprehensives?

Find that for Orlean Park School in Richmond

That is EXACTLY what keep saying here but some people are in denial

I just looked up 3 bedroomed houses in my city on Rightmove, and out of the 20 cheapest houses, 6 of them (including the third cheapest house in the city) were in catchment for outstanding secondary schools.

Why do they perpetuate inequality?

That article is inaccurate in places. Anyone would think that The Times wants you to vote Tory....

They probably won't get into ours. All the kids in my dad's year who ended up going private did so because they lived outside of the catchment for the good oversubscribed state schools and were offered the below par ones so it's not a case of the schools won't be able to cope. The schools will be fine but the private school kids will get sent to the below par schools. Maybe if some of the money they pay on school fees went into the schools however then they wouldn't be below par. I know it's not as simple as that but the argument that the schools will be oversubscribed doesn't stack. Admission y based on where people live among other factors and the private school kids don't want to live near the oversubscribed state schools so risk getting sent wherever there is space which will be further away and crap.

@Seasaltlady

You see none of this behaviour in other countries towards people who choose to pay for PE.
You are idealising " other countries". I know for sure, I am bilingual and follow other forums .

That exist in every country. People are people everywhere. Scarcity is an issue everywhere.

If you wouldn't know I will explain; The housing in front of top performing 100 free comprehensive schools has astronomical value. And just outside of catchment much lower. People move just to get to school and then move out. How is that better than faith schools? No, it is not. Equally entitled

Thanks @CalamitiousJoan I doff my cap to you.

Of course state school parents recognise you aren’t going to be pleased to be paying more but acting like you are doing us a favour by privately educating your children is a stretch! You are paying by choice.

Maybe if the state school parents on these threads had the decency to admit it’s a pretty rubbish deal for PE parents having to fork out even more money, rather than the usual “serves you right for having more money than we do” rhetoric, this slinging match would never have started! You see none of this behaviour in other countries towards people who choose to pay for PE. Instead here you are vilified while saving the state ££££ off your own back!

I wouldn’t know. My local area has a catchment system and each covers a wide range of housing stock, so pretty much anyone can move into any catchment. I used to live somewhere with a school that people were fighting to get near in inner London but there was a mix of housing stock there too, and also, you know, other schools that were perfectly good if you looked beyond the fetishisation of that one particular school. The constant threat on these endless threads that all the private school parents will just buy up houses close to the ‘best’ schools to show state school parents just sounds unbearably entitled to me. And I don’t throw that word around lightly.

I’ve been pissed off at grammars and faith schools for many years if that helps?

what about those who move to the catchment next to an excellent school? Isn't that cheating? Driving the property market up the roof??

Well, I am showing that it is not all about faith schools

I’ve been pissed off at grammars and faith schools for many years if that helps? And have made my feelings clear on various MN threads on the subject for years. I actually lost a RL friend over my stance on grammar schools.

At the time we were first applying to primary school we had literally no local options as the only school near enough for us to get into was a faith one that wouldn’t admit us. So the kids near us were all scattered far and wide. It wasn’t even the faith one that all the local people wanted to get into but filled up as second choice of the unlucky ones.

I wonder why people are no equally pissed off at country grammars or the property prices around top comprehensive

Apart from that there was a cap of 50% on all new faith schools. Now it is lifted because the disadvantages of it were greater than advantages

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-lift-cap-on-faith-school-places#:~:text=The%2050%25%20faith%20cap%20means,to%20faith%2Dbased%20admissions%20criteria.

Remember that the state does not own faith VA schools.

I don't think there is either the money or the political will to impose a buy out.

Faith schools are a blight on society. They definitely perpetuate inequality and should not be allowed. Would be great if Labour could turn their attention that way.