Teacher muttered "fuck off" to yr7 pupil

Leave it.

Much cheaper and there is the shortage of supply teachers.

If they are a supply, just let it slide. Your son might not even see them again.
If that is an internal cover supervisor, keep an eye on it and report if it happens again.

This was probably one of those teachers who complain about the abuse they got from children every day.

So in other words a teacher is more likely to be driven to making an unprofessional, irritated comment to a student if they have cause to complain that they are constantly putting up with abuse from students every day? Well, yes, I would have thought so. I am not defending the teacher swearing, but much of the physical and psychological abuse which teachers (and indeed other students) suffer from kids in schools makes a muttered 'Fuck off' pale into relative insignificance.

This was probably one of those teachers who complain about the abuse they got from children every day.

Amazed at everyone who says 'don't work with children then'. This is why we have a retention crisis in education - teachers are leaving and no one is replacing them!

Teachers are humans, he made a mistake. Tell your DS to be grateful for not getting a detention and move on.

Supply Teacher here. Yes, seriously thinking of leaving the profession and taking steps to do so….(Permanent 10+ years, then full- time caring, voluntary education roles, further study for a few years…supply over 10 years now)

If the teacher muttered F off rather than looking student in the eye and saying it loudly, I would suggest it’s slightly different.

I’m not excusing it (I agree unprofessional) but we don’t know what sort of day the teacher had, or indeed how bad that particular lesson was. It is possible your son was unfairly clocked. We’re human and make mistakes - when 8-10 kids are determined to be disruptive it can be hard to pin down who’s being good and who isn’t. By the way, most Supply Teachers are briefed in no uncertain terms on arrival not to let anyone go to the toilet so your son was probably lucky…

Supply teaching - prepare, mark lessons, be paid at beginners scale if you’re lucky, get dumped when 12 week agency workers rights kick in….

Have the overwhelming majority of pupils decide there’s no way they are going to have anything other than a no work lesson when they see it’s someone different.

More often than you might expect, hear your permanent colleagues make speeches about how useless Supply Teachers are…about 1 in 5 chance this will be in front of pupils…

There has to be a better way of combining caring responsibilities with earning a living.

Seriously, there is a big exodus of qualified experienced teachers planning to leave Supply Teaching. Won’t affect occasional day much, but many absences are long-term. Schools need to start planning how they cope when there is no-one.

Maybe children will have to be sent home…

They shouldn't be FB friends normally, no.But they may be a relative

Umm why??? I'd you do not think these things ate disruptive, you have no clue!

Well, OP can hardly LTB can she?

He should not have used the word ´fuck’.
But there is such a thing as being too polite. You don’t get respect from teenage school boys by treating them let adult patients or customers. It does depend a bit of the linguistic norms of the kids in the school but a lot of politeness in English works by giving the other person the possibility to disagree with you and by being less direct. All the ´could you please’ and ´if you like’ and turning statements into question is not always a good strategy when you need to show a group of teens that you’re in charge.
Here the message needed to be ´I’m giving you a break this once, but your behavior was poor so don’t think I won’t give you detention if he happens again’. In either the words or the delivery, there needed to be an undertone communicating the unacceptable nature of the behavior during class.

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Sounds like he slipped up and misjudged the level of formality required by the situation.
The teacher was avoiding escalating to a detention even though your son was disruptive in class. And yes, I know his mate nicked his water bottle but from teacher’s point of view the whole thing was unnecessary disruptive nonsense that needed shutting down quick before it took up more time or escalated into a fight.
So he was giving your son a break. There’s a difference between screaming at someone to fuck off and giving someone a pass and then saying ´fuck off now’ in a calm tone with no malice. He should have said ´just go’ or, probably better in keeping with situation without totally crossing over into banned language ´just get out’.
There’s something important communicatively about the abruptness and slightly transgressive language used in this situation. If the teacher said something overly polite like ´could you please leave now’ then the whole dynamic of a teacher giving a kid a break when they would be justified in giving a detention would be wrecked. The brusqueness was important. ‘Fuck off now’ is not ideal vocab but the tone was right.

It doesn't matter why they did it- it is entirely unacceptable and should be investigated formally. If there are extenuating cirumstances that would be reflected in the 'consequence' . Teachers and other professionals, like Drs, nurses, dentists, should never treat the people they serve unprofessionally. It's about standards and setting examples and engendering respect. How can a teacher ever expect to be treated with respect by children if they swear at them? Or teach children about manners, respect, appropriate behaviours?

Report the online friends thing to the DSL today. That is the sort of thing that should be assumed to be dodgy and not at all given the benefit of the doubt!

Of course that's a safeguarding issue

Not saying its the teachers fault. But if you know how shit the job is then it's up to you to carry on or not

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that 'trying to get water bottle back' was not done in a sensible way. Supply lessons are an absolute joke. Don't report

Toughen up both - he's going to hear a lot worse.

I'd report it and I think pp justifying and downplaying it sound a bit weird.

Wow what a judgmental and ridiculous post.

Neither of my two DC would even mention this to me. I don't think it would happen at their big state comp but seriously could. They don't share much re mundane school stuff at all.
At this point in the year especially

This about sums it up.

Frankly if this is the most you have worry about with your kids high school you don't know much about the real world.

When I was at school (about 14) a permanent teacher used the f word at one of the kids. No damage done. We just thought it was hilarious as we knew it wasn't the done thing.

Not something a teacher should do but they're human.

@crumbpet maybe it's as simple as firing him in this case but as a whole, I'd say the industry needs him more than he needs it. Very few people in the UK want to be a teacher and I believe it's seen as something of a minimum wage job with a charitable element.

Coming from East Asia where teaching is a highly well paid, prestigious profession which requires a high level of education (top uni grads), the teaching industry in the UK is quite shocking. Even relief teaching (supply teaching) in Asia is competitive and hard to get into. So I don't really blame this guy, he's more an indicator of the industry's issues