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GCSE English with dyslexia - touch typing and any other tips?

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celestebellman · 13/04/2024 10:32

My daughter was diagnosed with dyslexia in year 9 - up until this point school had not noticed any issue, she didn't do SATS because of covid and it was me who realised that her spelling (always not great) was actually quite at odds with her general ability, and she was struggling to process what she was reading, which was more obvious as she was required to read more complex and longer texts. She was assessed privately for diagnosis, and her reading processing speed was on the first centile.

Now she is in year 10, and I am really worried about her passing English GCSE. She is capable in her other subjects (maths, science, art, geography) of 6-7 grades I would say (based on her class test marks so far), maybe even an 8 in a couple of subjects, but in English language in particular she is probably working at about a GCSE 3. She has a tutor, who is great, and a previous AQA examiner, who has been working with her a few months. In the tutor sessions she is capable of working through a language paper with support and answering questions using set strategies, to a grade 5 standard. However, in the assessments she has had (to be fair they have only done one paper 1 and 1 paper 2 assessment so guess it is early days) this has all gone out the window. I think this is a combination of nerves, time and, crucially, processing speed. She already has a laptop and extra time. In the first language assessment she did, she appeared not to be able to take in at all what she was reading - I have since arranged for her to have a computer reader, she has only just started using this and on her recent assessment she did actually seem to understand the passages more, and she felt this helped. However, what she has written is still probably about a grade 3. She spent ages reading the paper (listened to it 3 times then 'read' it) and about half an hour trying to do question 1 (this should take about 6 minutes with the extra time). She didn't write anywhere near enough and the structure of her answers just went by the wayside (maybe nerves and practice though).

She is only year 10 so I am telling myself she has lots of time to improve, and the tutor is planning to spend lots of time embedding the techniques and practicing over the summer. I guess she also needs to have a strategy which order to answer the questions and know how much time to spend on each.

Her spelling is very bizarre - not for all words and what she means to write is usually obvious. An example in the recent paper was 'ordotory' (auditory!) I think (this one was less obvious!), however, she would still be better not having spellcheck enabled as she should be able to pick up at least some marks for SPAG!

She really needs a 5 if she wants to go to 6th form (and is much more able in other subjects so should be capable of A levels in these). I am really stressed she is not going to get this, though am trying to tell myself there is plenty time.

I have heard that touch typing programmes (like touch type read spell) can help in dyslexia by embedding spellings in muscle memory so am
wondering whether to try this. It's not too expensive though may be time consuming, so just wondered if anyone has had any experience with this being helpful? Also any tips at all about how to get that magic grade 5 in English with dyslexia would be really appreciated.

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MrsHamlet · 13/04/2024 14:10

monkeyblonde · 13/04/2024 13:53

With a scribe, you would use all of your SPAG marks unless you spell each word, and give each piece of punctuation and grammar to the person scribing.

That's not necessarily true, for AQA at least. There's a sliding scale for awarding marks for scribed scripts.

celestebellman · 13/04/2024 14:05

@SpringOfContentment thanks, that is v helpful re science words - I will make a note! Was wondering, as she has used some weird and wonderful spellings on science tests too but appears to have been given the benefit of the doubt!

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monkeyblonde · 13/04/2024 13:53

With a scribe, you would use all of your SPAG marks unless you spell each word, and give each piece of punctuation and grammar to the person scribing.

SpringOfContentment · 13/04/2024 13:51

Don't treat it as an English assessment. Treat it as a tick list of things to do.
I can't remember exactly what is required, but the tutor will be able to tell you that she needs to demonstrate X,Y and Z. So, put them in.

In the auditory example - use orditory. It's phonetically plausible, and will gain more credit than hearing sound/noise or other appropriate, but simpler examples.

From science (my area of knowledge) make sure she can spell mitosis and meiosis (cell division), and burette (for titrations )and biuret (for protein tests). Those are spellings that could forfeit you the mark. Phonetically plausible will cover most others.

celestebellman · 13/04/2024 13:46

Thanks @MrsHamlet I think it's partly processing, that she is not even processing what she is reading on first read - also that some of them are not straightforward and require inference. Eg one we looked at recently was 'they are feeling more positive about the climb' or something - what was in the text was 'less hopeless'. In paper 1 I think you just need to write 4 things about an aspect of the text which she has found ok.

@Octavia64 can I ask how old your son was when found Nessy helpful? Just wondering if it is good for this age group (15) or for younger children.

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MrsHamlet · 13/04/2024 13:42

In paper 2, the options to choose from are in the same order as the text. So she could tick and cross next to all of them on a first read and then fill in the correct boxes.

celestebellman · 13/04/2024 13:39

Thanks @MrsHamlet good to know even that bizarre spelling would have got some credit! I am hoping that her grammar and punctuation (generally ok but she does rush and make silly mistakes) will get her some marks and will just have to take the hit on the spelling .

I think as you say it is partly exam technique - she definitely should not have spent so long on a 4 mark question (she finds this one easy-ish in paper 1 but much harder in paper 2). Tutor has also been suggesting things like not reading the whole text just reading the part referred to etc. So I'm not sure why she chose to spend quite so long on the reading. We will just have to practice these things and get her a strategy. Part of the issue is it really does seem to be a struggle to process what she is reading (even with the reading software though it helps) so even with extra time she will be pushed.

Thanks for the Nessy recommendation @Octavia64, will look at that too.

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MrsHamlet · 13/04/2024 13:21

As a rough rule of thumb, students should spend 1.5 minutes per mark. And I tell mine NOT to read the extract first. The questions are always the same, so read the question, read the part of the text which applies, answer.

Octavia64 · 13/04/2024 13:13

Nessy touch typing is the program you need.

Teaches touch typing but is for dyslexics so also focuses on spelling etc.

Was very helpful for my DS.

MrsHamlet · 13/04/2024 13:02

She would lose some spag marks with a scribe, but not as many as you might think.

The AO6 mark is also for grammar, punctuation and vocab - I'd have given credit for her attempt at "auditory" so it's worth reminding her that spelling really isn't the be all and end all.

My advice is that she needs to learn what the questions want AND to move on when the time for the question is up. The high tariff questions are at the end, so there's no point in spending 30 minutes on a 4 marker. Better to attempt them all.

celestebellman · 13/04/2024 11:11

Thanks - no, I'm not sure she needs a scribe (though not sure how this is assessed). Also, I think they definitely lose some of the SPAG marks with this (?)

I am telling myself she did have a bit of a disadvantage in recent test. School have only recently got the computer software running and she has tried it out but not been using it regularly. So her first time using it properly was being thrown into a test situation - this would definitely have increased the cognitive load, and she has not yet worked out how it will work best for her. They have said she can go an practice with this whenever she wants, and teacher said they will upload some texts for her to read to practice (so I have told her she needs to go and do this regularly) - I think this should help .

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Pieceofpurplesky · 13/04/2024 11:02

The more she uses the computer reader the more confident she will get. Has she tried working with a scribe?

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