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Nottingham High School or Manchester Grammar School or Royal Grammar School Newcastle or King Edward's School Birmingham

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Lalagu · 05/02/2024 09:03

My kid has received offers from these four schools for Year 7 in the upcoming year. I am wondering which school he should choose. Do you have any insightful ideas? Thanks!

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Lalagu · 06/02/2024 15:46

LIZS · 06/02/2024 12:10

Perhaps you should look at uni destinations and any indication of specific activities for potential medics/vets in sixth form.

AL is underway of reform and will be uncertain in coming 5-10 years, in contrast, IB sounds competitive and all rounded .......

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SecondUsername4me · 06/02/2024 13:33

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 11:37

you are right as my kid did well in exam and let me know his academic ability and thus i am worried i choose a wrong school and devastate his study path since he aims to be doctor

I can't imagine any of those schools would be "wrong" or devastating to his future plans. Doctors come from a broad range of schools - even crappy comps.

LIZS · 06/02/2024 12:10

Perhaps you should look at uni destinations and any indication of specific activities for potential medics/vets in sixth form.

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 11:37

2in13 · 06/02/2024 09:56

I can only speak of KE schools in Birmingham so the Edgbaston one has a very good reputation but also good transport links if you were hoping to live in the immediate area or further away.

I hope you're both happy with whichever choice you make.

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Lalagu · 06/02/2024 11:37

SecondUsername4me · 06/02/2024 10:04

No one is going to have decent knowledge of all 4. You'd be better off looking at what life would be like for you all living close to each of them. I'm sure your dc will do well at any of the four. The rest of you still need to live in the area, so that's more important surely?

you are right as my kid did well in exam and let me know his academic ability and thus i am worried i choose a wrong school and devastate his study path since he aims to be doctor

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SecondUsername4me · 06/02/2024 10:04

No one is going to have decent knowledge of all 4. You'd be better off looking at what life would be like for you all living close to each of them. I'm sure your dc will do well at any of the four. The rest of you still need to live in the area, so that's more important surely?

2in13 · 06/02/2024 09:56

I can only speak of KE schools in Birmingham so the Edgbaston one has a very good reputation but also good transport links if you were hoping to live in the immediate area or further away.

I hope you're both happy with whichever choice you make.

MarchingFrogs · 06/02/2024 09:42

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 09:02

@MarchingFrogs I'm sure there will be excellent schools in Liverpool!

Absolutely- but the OP already has offers at 4 schools and at this stage would be a late applicant even for an independent school and presumably reliant on places being turned down. Definitely a late applicant for state schools.

Bird(s) in the hand and all thatWink.

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 09:02

@MarchingFrogs I'm sure there will be excellent schools in Liverpool!

MarchingFrogs · 06/02/2024 08:47

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 08:37

I believe Liverpool has a thriving Chinese community. And it's a fabulous city. Maybe look at that..

But not great for getting to school in Birmingham, Nottingham, Newcastle or even Manchester every day.

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 08:37

I believe Liverpool has a thriving Chinese community. And it's a fabulous city. Maybe look at that..

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 08:35

I live in Nottingham, it's ok but the city centre has got quite run down over the last few years. The council has also gone bankrupt so services are being cut to the bone.

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 08:28

2in13 · 06/02/2024 08:26

Not sure if I missed this, which specific KE school in Birmingham? Some rank higher than others

King Edward's School located in Edgbaston and ranked within top 50 independent schools, opposite to King Edward VI High School for Girls

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2in13 · 06/02/2024 08:26

Not sure if I missed this, which specific KE school in Birmingham? Some rank higher than others

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 08:24

LIZS · 06/02/2024 08:20

Being in top 1% is all very well but may suggest the school is not as academically selective across the year and your child would potentially not be amongst a cohort who might challenge him. Not if sure your budget reaches the nicer parts of Nottingham. www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/86343057#/?channel=RES_BUY Again would suggest you rent initially to determine best area for your family, access to public transport etc

thanks for your search
this property looks decent and within our budget

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LIZS · 06/02/2024 08:20

Being in top 1% is all very well but may suggest the school is not as academically selective across the year and your child would potentially not be amongst a cohort who might challenge him. Not if sure your budget reaches the nicer parts of Nottingham. www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/86343057#/?channel=RES_BUY Again would suggest you rent initially to determine best area for your family, access to public transport etc

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 07:13

Bs0u416d · 05/02/2024 20:27

As other posters have said, this should be about where you can build the best life for yourself and your son. All the schools you have mentioned will give him and excellent start in life.

Coming from HK, perhaps you would be happier in a bigger city such as Manchester or Birmingham and by virtue of their size, they're more likely to have an expat community, if that's what is important to you.

Do you have any friend or family links or any of the cities that you have mentioned?

Regarding Nottingham, were quite happy here. We chose it 7 years ago because it's very central. It's pretty equidistant to ours friends and family, has excellent transport links so you easily get to London for example and is within short reach or several major airports.

The city itself is fairly small and experiences the same high street challenges affecting much of the UK. But it does have decent shopping and a good and improving restaurant scene.

Mapperley Park (where I live) and The Park are two nice neighbourhood in or just outside the city centre, where you will find large period houses on tree lined roads. Mapperley Park in particular is walkable to city centre and also the high school. Whilst both neighbourhoods are expensive for Nottingham, you will find them very good value compared to many other cities.

There is also West Bridgeford, south of the city which is a wonderful place it live, again, lovely homes, tree lined streets and a great small town feel just a stones throw from the city. Though it is more expensive to buy into and much less convenient for the the High School.

for Nottingham, we like the school well cos the school invited us for cam interview and surprised us that my kid is the top 1% in its entrance exam and the teachers are very nice.....

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Bs0u416d · 05/02/2024 20:27

As other posters have said, this should be about where you can build the best life for yourself and your son. All the schools you have mentioned will give him and excellent start in life.

Coming from HK, perhaps you would be happier in a bigger city such as Manchester or Birmingham and by virtue of their size, they're more likely to have an expat community, if that's what is important to you.

Do you have any friend or family links or any of the cities that you have mentioned?

Regarding Nottingham, were quite happy here. We chose it 7 years ago because it's very central. It's pretty equidistant to ours friends and family, has excellent transport links so you easily get to London for example and is within short reach or several major airports.

The city itself is fairly small and experiences the same high street challenges affecting much of the UK. But it does have decent shopping and a good and improving restaurant scene.

Mapperley Park (where I live) and The Park are two nice neighbourhood in or just outside the city centre, where you will find large period houses on tree lined roads. Mapperley Park in particular is walkable to city centre and also the high school. Whilst both neighbourhoods are expensive for Nottingham, you will find them very good value compared to many other cities.

There is also West Bridgeford, south of the city which is a wonderful place it live, again, lovely homes, tree lined streets and a great small town feel just a stones throw from the city. Though it is more expensive to buy into and much less convenient for the the High School.

whiteroseredrose · 05/02/2024 17:02

I can't comment on which school is 'best' because it often depends on the pupil, but Manchester Grammar School is definitely prestigious.

I live in Altrincham at the end of the tram and we have a decent sized HK population now. You would possibly know better than me. I'm pretty sure that there are buses to MGS because quite a lot of boys locally go there. Plus it is a nice place to live.

StarboysMum · 05/02/2024 15:25

I wouldn't rule out Newcastle as suggested by @Clearinguptheclutter. There are properties in Jesmond within your budget (300-400k, if I remember correctly from your earlier thread). This could be a great location for you as RGS is within walking distance. So it could be a nicer lifestyle for your son than commuting across Birmingham like we were discussing before. Bigger isn't always better.

Regarding weather/climate, Manchester is the worst place in my opinion from your list as it gets the most rain. I think your mother will probably find it cold whether you move to Birmingham, Manchester, Nottingham or Newcastle. It can be noticeably milder in London, and in the last few years London/SE England have had some heatwaves which haven't affected the North as badly - it's rarely been above 30°C where I live (which I think is a good thing).

You said on your other thread that you are coming to the UK to visit Birmingham. Can you visit the other cities and schools? I think that'll really help your decision.

cty · 05/02/2024 13:19

My two cents would be to look at 1) where you aim to live 2) which size of a school might fit your DS, ie big or smaller 3) co-ed or not.

Since you are moving from abroad, you need time to adjust. Finding a community of Hong Kong people might help you settle down more quickly. I heard that Manchester and Brum have a lot of Hong Kong people. And they are bigger cities. School wise all these names are very reputable. If your DS is outgoing then perhaps a bigger school would not be as problematic. If he is introverted then perhaps the smaller KES. Ultimately it is not about which school is 'good'. This mentality is the wrong way to select schools. It is about the fit for your child. Thus I would ask around about culture and how the school is operated and then match up with your DS's personality.

Clearinguptheclutter · 05/02/2024 12:13

I read and commented on your other thread

Again, nobody will have experience of all four schools as they are all miles away from each other. They’re all good schools I think you need to focus on which city is best for you as a HK family. With that in mind I’d rule out Nottingham and Newcastle. Birmingham and Manchester in particular have thriving HK communities where you’ll easily make HK friends (if that is important to you).

re weather it’s not that much different between all of them. Newcastle will be cooler but not significantly so.

Lalagu · 05/02/2024 12:08

StarboysMum · 05/02/2024 11:37

Hi again @Lalagu. I just read over your previous thread to try and learn more about you. You mentioned on that thread that your elderly mother was also coming over to live with you and that she needed public transport. I see that you are really prioritising your son's education and making that the key driver behind where you live in the UK. But what about your mother? Will she settle better if there is a local HK community?

Does your family have hobbies? What do you enjoy doing together?

Are you or your husband possibly able to find work in the UK before you arrive?

I agree with PPs that all schools are good schools, so I would focus very much on where you want to live as a family, plus where you can (or are most likely to find) work.

yes if there is a chinese community then it should be fantastic
i know both Man and Birmingham have china town

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Lalagu · 05/02/2024 12:07

StarboysMum · 05/02/2024 11:12

Hi @Lalagu I commented on your previous thread, as I'd gone to KEHS and my cousins went to MGS. I went to university in Nottingham and now live near Newcastle, and know a few kids who go to RGS. So I feel quite excited to be able to help you further in your decision.

It's already been said that Nottingham and Newcastle are smaller cities. Personally I wasn't a huge fan of Nottingham. It lacks the buzz of larger cities and just isn't really that exciting. I don't know much of Nottingham High School but I don't hear about it in the same way I do the other three.

Newcastle is a small city but it's a fantastic place to live. It can't fully compete with Birmingham for things to do, but there's lots going on there. Newcastle is also on the London-Edinburgh train line so you can get into London surprisingly quickly given the distance. It's also by far the best of all four cities for access to the countryside (assuming you have a car) so if you are interested in outdoor activities it's the place to be. Newcastle would be a real lifestyle change but I think you'd find it very welcoming up here. People from the North East are renowned for their friendliness. It's not as ethnically diverse however (Newcastle is approx 80% white, compared to around 65% for Nottingham, 55% for Manchester and 48% for Birmingham according to Wikipedia) and I haven't heard anything about HKers settling here. But there are people from all over (UK and non-UK) who make the North East their home. If you are prepared to integrate into a local community, Newcastle would be a great move. RGS is a highly regarded school with a good focus on extracurricular activities.

i worry about the cold weather of Newcastle for my elderly mother

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