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Offers day: 1st March 2024

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Jbrown76 · 21/01/2024 16:01

Anyone nervous, slightly apprehensive?

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MeanLeanRunnerbean · 27/02/2024 15:47

Hopebridge · 27/02/2024 13:11

That's interesting as the children I know that got maybes didn't apply as thought it wasn't an option. I was told children may apply from outside of the area. Good to know they didn't give out as many yes's this year. I'm hoping my DS gives grammar a chance if he gets a place. I think it's a big change being away from friends and travelling to school.

It seems every school is different (which is a bit of a pain!), at the school my DD has put 1st they will tell the people who get a 'maybe' where they are on the list and also how far into the maybe list places were allocated in previous years (around 15-20ish typically; some children sit the 11+ for the school with the intention of using a 'yes' letter as bargaining tool for an academic scholarship for independent schools and don't intend to apply to the grammar). DD has a couple of friends who are within the first 10 on the maybe list and their folks are desperate for a positive answer on the 1st but also scared of being in limbo; we know of a couple of kids previously who didn't get offended the grammar and then got an offer within a few days of secondary starting!

Hopebridge · 27/02/2024 14:44

I didn't know the primaries got told the secondaries today. I wonder why they need to know earlier?

aquarimum · 27/02/2024 14:28

It’s also frustrating in that our LA releases allocation info to primary schools today but doesn’t tell parents until Friday!

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 14:26

@Hopebridge yes some are only age 11 etc but millions navigate tubes, trams, buses etc and having to have your mum take you to school as you haven't ever left the house alone at Yr6 really isn't the norm. Most high school kids who walk do so in packs or with friends and at home time walk in a sea of other kids.

aquarimum · 27/02/2024 14:22

Bricking it. Catchment and last choice is now inadequate. First choice school has changed admission criteria this year to prioritise baptism over siblings. This moves us up the ranking, but I think other unbaptised families with siblings have lied on the SIF - the priest signs it to say they’ve seen the baptismal certificate and then hands the form back, so the families are then ticking the “seen certificate box”

DanceMumTaxi · 27/02/2024 14:21

I am. We’ve applied to our local faith school and it’s really oversubscribed. It should be fine because we’re in a nominated parish, but you just never know. I keep thinking that I’ve filled the paperwork in wrong or they’ll have lost the copy of the baptism certificate or something. Just really want to know now.

Hopebridge · 27/02/2024 14:18

I think it's difficult as some children may only just have turned 11. I know a few that have birthdays the end of August. It is a big leap. It depends on where people live to how feasible it is for them to get themselves to school as well. Everyone's circumstances are different.

I appreciate the schools can't give preferential treatment.

CoffeeWithCheese · 27/02/2024 14:01

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 13:31

@CoffeeWithCheese no sibling priority?

Yep but not massively high on the criteria.

To add to the can of worms - the secondary's just had the Ofsted call this morning so hopefully they do well and they can see that there's a place for a warm and nurturing place rather than the "we exclude everyone for the wrong type of label inside their underpants"

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 13:31

@CoffeeWithCheese no sibling priority?

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 13:30

@PuttingDownRoots looks like over subscribed schools he's too far from as 77th on wait list. Sounds like they only wanted a school on same bus route as his younger brother who travels on two buses. Mum now learning to drive so she can take him to school so he doesn't have to walk.
It's never going to wash with the LA unless he has needs that it doesn't mention. Yr7 are expected to walk or navigate public transport. And what about in Yr8/9/10/11 - is she still expecting to mummy him?

prh47bridge · 27/02/2024 13:28

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 13:16

Father calls for Barnet school admissions changes after months-long search www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67659675

He won't get anywhere with that. The fact their son has never been out of the house unaccompanied (if true) is their problem, not the council's. A child of secondary school age should be able to get to and from school under their own steam.

If it is true that the admissions team told them they wouldn't be able to withdraw their son from religious assemblies, that was wrong. Parents have the absolute right to withdraw their children from RE and collective worship.

CoffeeWithCheese · 27/02/2024 13:25

Terrified this year - it's for DD2 who has a lot of SEN but academically is able, and the most local schools have all gone completely bonkers with sanctions for breathing incorrectly - which would be a nightmare and totally wrong for her.

Hoping she gets into the school her older sister is doing well at - which is much more nurturing, but we've moved a bit further out of catchment since DD1 got her place so it's always going to be a bit of squeaky bum time. Based on last year's numbers we should be OK but I'll believe it when I see it.

TokyoSushi · 27/02/2024 13:24

We've already got DS in Y8, so a fairly foregone conclusion here, although I'd still like to know!

Ours is more about who else gets in, it's massively oversubscribed (and not even that good!) where DS goes, and likely DD will follow.

PuttingDownRoots · 27/02/2024 13:20

I notice that article doesn't say why his applications were rejected... did they apply for the closest schools or ones further away?

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 13:16

Father calls for Barnet school admissions changes after months-long search www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67659675

Hopebridge · 27/02/2024 13:11

That's interesting as the children I know that got maybes didn't apply as thought it wasn't an option. I was told children may apply from outside of the area. Good to know they didn't give out as many yes's this year. I'm hoping my DS gives grammar a chance if he gets a place. I think it's a big change being away from friends and travelling to school.

Waitingforfriday75 · 27/02/2024 13:09

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 12:37

I've just been reading on the BBC about a family refusing all offered high schools, even those good ones within walking distance, on the basis that the boy had never left the house unaccompanied and his brothers school was different way. They blaming Barnet LA. Some extreme examples out there!

Please post the link to the BBC article.

whiteboardking · 27/02/2024 12:37

I've just been reading on the BBC about a family refusing all offered high schools, even those good ones within walking distance, on the basis that the boy had never left the house unaccompanied and his brothers school was different way. They blaming Barnet LA. Some extreme examples out there!

MeanLeanRunnerbean · 27/02/2024 12:36

Me too, but apparently a couple of 10 year olds know more than the adult who completed the application, ha. At DD's 1st choice my understanding is that they give out 'yes' letters only to the 155 highest scoring applications, then 'maybe' letters to those who pass the 11+ but are place 156 and beyond. So in theory if you get a yes letter it's a comfortable expectation to get offered a place, but I imagine there could be students who have an EHCP/are looked after etc who might contribute to movement from the list.

Hopebridge · 27/02/2024 12:02

Ah yes :) I told my DS it wasn't a guaranteed yes. A lot of his friends didn't get a Yes which has meant he is unsure he wants to go now 😬 I am hoping he does get in and will change his mind.

MeanLeanRunnerbean · 27/02/2024 11:58

Hopebridge · 27/02/2024 11:03

Is it a grammar school?

Yep (I think I recognise your username from the Devon grammar thread the other day!)

Hopebridge · 27/02/2024 11:03

MeanLeanRunnerbean · 27/02/2024 10:55

V v nervous! My DD is convinced she is going to her 1st place school; there is no catchment area/sibling factor, if you get a 'yes' letter the expectation is that you'll be offered a place and children she knows who have siblings at this school have all told her it's a done deal. But of course it's not a done deal until the deal is done! I can't believe how long the wait is; this isn't my first time with a child applying for secondary school but I swear it gets longer each time!

Is it a grammar school?

MeanLeanRunnerbean · 27/02/2024 10:55

V v nervous! My DD is convinced she is going to her 1st place school; there is no catchment area/sibling factor, if you get a 'yes' letter the expectation is that you'll be offered a place and children she knows who have siblings at this school have all told her it's a done deal. But of course it's not a done deal until the deal is done! I can't believe how long the wait is; this isn't my first time with a child applying for secondary school but I swear it gets longer each time!

RedFluffyPanda · 27/02/2024 10:42

Thank you for responding, guys. Interesting 🤔

RedFluffyPanda · 27/02/2024 10:42

prh47bridge · 27/02/2024 09:52

For those who don't get the school they want and are thinking of appealing, if you want advice please start a separate thread, ideally with the word "appeal" in the title. You will then get advice from myself and the other experts who post here.

I will keep an eye on this thread and offer advice if I see anyone asking, but I can't guarantee to spot all requests on the thread.

I just ask out of curiosity. I have no intention of appealing. I live in catchment of many great schools.

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