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Homophobia in school

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TooManyPlatesInMotion · 18/01/2024 20:44

DS is 13 (y8) and goes to a boy's Catholic school (state). The majority of boys are Catholic or otherwise Christian, and most are from culturally very conservative backgrounds. We are a C of E family ourselves.

DS has a group of friends, is generally quite outgoing and laid back and is doing very well academically, loves sport too. The school has really helped him improve his motivation and engagement.

But - and it is a BIG but - I am so sick and disappointed with the general culture of casual homophobia and misogyny, expressed constantly between the boys. My DS has told me about this and when he first started some of the language came home, so we have had discussions about how unacceptable and hurtful that language is.

It is now definitely really affecting my DS who, I suspect, may be questioning where he fits in, and his own sexuality. Some of that is obviously conjecture on my part, but he knows my door is open if he wants to talk about it.

DS is so, so angry in a way he struggles to talk about and has now started getting into fights, eg when hanging out playing football after school. He is thin on the details but there has been at least once occasion when he has told me of suggestions that he is gay, plays like a "batty boy" etc. I am not condoning the fighting on his part and have spoken with him about it. There is no excuse for fighting, regardless of provocation, but I am really worried about his wellbeing.

My issue is with the school and what I do now. The language and culture is worse than when I was at secondary school in the late 1990s, when gay/queer/lezza were the worst insults going and no one came out at school, even in 6th form. I cannot believe it is still like this in London in 2023.

Surely the school have safeguarding obligations, a duty to promote a culture of inclusivity and " British values" (or whatever it is called) in PSHE, regardless of it being a Catholic school?

Has anyone dealt with anything similar or have any advice?

Thanks.

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Crispsandwichrock · 18/01/2024 22:13

I don't think being at an all boys school is helping him. And the fights outside of school - potentially his behaviour could be reported to the police, but so could any homophobic abuse. Absolutely speak to the school. You know they will need names to do all that much about it though. What does your son himself want to happen? It's important to involve him.

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 18/01/2024 22:08

I agree to an extent @stomachameleon , and I am certainly not laying the blame at the door of the school entirely, but there is no getting round the fact that their intake is v v culturally and socially conservative, so I suspect many boys reflect this in their attitudes.

I will have a look and see if I can establish what is taught and contact the head of year as well.

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stomachameleon · 18/01/2024 21:52

I am not sure it's a 'Catholic school' problem and more a boys that age issue. Catholic schools will have to adhere to policies and have safeguarding/ psd/ pshe/ British values/ life skills lessons.

Boys (and girls) that age can say horrible things to each other to test boundaries with adults and each other. They are learning what is ok and acceptable.

You should be able to see what schools teach and ask for confirmation of what's covered. Speak to pastoral support as well as see whether there is an issue in the year itself.

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 18/01/2024 21:40

Sorry to hear this @Loubelle70 . It's extremely depressing.

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TooManyPlatesInMotion · 18/01/2024 21:40

Thanks @newtlover . He has some friends outside of school too and does do other stuff - music, drama. Both outside of school, which helps.

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Loubelle70 · 18/01/2024 21:29

My grandson goes to Catholic school...there is a lot of homophobia...racism.(towards white, black, asian, everyone!)..disability discrimination, the misogyny is massive too..i have to pull him up all the time to explain that those attitudes are not acceptable, to the point that its getting really ridiculous..he is also confused. I have no idea how to deal with it either other than mentioning why it isnt acceptable, as yes, they won't 'grass' on anyone

newtlover · 18/01/2024 21:26

definitely talk to the school about it
I'd cite the Equality act and their public sector duty
also mention bullying
can you widen his social circle? football or something with some more civilised young people

Dacadactyl · 18/01/2024 21:26

I think this isn't down to the culture of the school, more the culture of the boys' homes.

I would bring it up with the school.

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 18/01/2024 21:21

I have asked him this @noblegiraffe and he says he doesn't want to give individual names.

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noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 21:06

I'm pretty sure that a Catholic school would want to deal with homophobia and bullying same as any other school.

Let them know and they can do some work on it in PSHE/assembly.

In the meantime, would DS like to report the specific pupils?

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 18/01/2024 21:03

I wasn't suggesting they don't have to opt out of safeguarding. I was wondering about what their PSHE obligations are as I thought religious schools could opt out of some bits of that @MyGooseisTotallyLoose. Of course safeguarding still applies? And that it might help my when dealing with the school if I could frame some of the issues in terms of safeguarding - as surely homophobic language and bullying is a safeguarding issue?

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MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 18/01/2024 20:58

Surely the school have safeguarding obligations, a duty to promote a culture of inclusivity and " British values" (or whatever it is called) in PSHE, regardless of it being a Catholic school? why would a Catholic school not have to follow safeguarding?