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Manchester Grammar School or King Edward's School Birmingham

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Lalagu · 08/01/2024 09:56

My kid has received offers from both schools for Year 7 in the upcoming year. I am wondering which school he should choose. Do you have any insightful ideas? Thanks!

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crazycrofter · 09/01/2024 13:18

Also take bus/train pass costs into account when you're looking. For KES you could look out to Bromsgrove and Droitwich, but the train pass will cost a lot more and the journey is longer. Dd found that friends lived all over, but there was a cluster of kids living around the uni in Edgbaston and Harborne, so living in Northfield was still quite convenient for getting to them. Socialising was often done in town too, which is only 20 mins on the train. We ended up hosting regular sleepovers for dd's friends who lived further away (Wolverhampton/Coventry) and couldn't get back easily in the evening.

crazycrofter · 09/01/2024 13:14

I miss living in that area, in terms of the convenience of public transport. Also, Northfield town centre may not be very attractive but it's got a Home Bargains, a B&M and an Aldi! You're also close to Longbridge town centre with its big M&S and the Lickey and Waseley hills.

crazycrofter · 09/01/2024 13:11

I was also going to suggest the house that senua suggested - location is perfect for the train, but also good for the bus if that's preferred.

I would look anywhere around the station, and also the other side of the Bristol Road, from Tessall Lane up to the south side of Frankley Beeches Road. These are mainly 1930s semis, but pleasant roads and really good for public transport.

Myshott · 09/01/2024 13:06

Myshott · 08/01/2024 21:41

Heaton Moor, Heaton Chapel, Heaton Mersey
Cheadle
Gatley
Didsbury
Urmston*
Flixton*
Sale*
Hazel Grove
Bramhall
Marple
Romiley

*These locations are in Trafford which has seen one of the highest levels of people arriving from Hong Kong. Thriving community

Not:
Wythenshawe
Tameside
Edgeley
Adswood

Maybe (if you like ‘edgey’ areas):
Stretford
Chorlton
Levenshulme

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emark · 09/01/2024 12:07

MGS has a large catchment area also covering Cheshire to the south and west of Greater Manchester.
Worth looking on Rightmove with a map at properties on tge bus routes within price range

Lalagu · 09/01/2024 11:31

VisiblyNot25 · 09/01/2024 10:04

Manchester Grammar School is a great school.

if you’re looking at areas in Manchester/ Stockport I’d focus on -

Heaton Mersey, Heaton Moor, Heaton Chapel
Withington
Didsbury / West Didsbury - although you’d potentially struggle within your budget
Stretford
Chorlton
Sale
Prestwich
Bury

thanks!
i will try to source in these areas

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VisiblyNot25 · 09/01/2024 10:04

Manchester Grammar School is a great school.

if you’re looking at areas in Manchester/ Stockport I’d focus on -

Heaton Mersey, Heaton Moor, Heaton Chapel
Withington
Didsbury / West Didsbury - although you’d potentially struggle within your budget
Stretford
Chorlton
Sale
Prestwich
Bury

Lalagu · 09/01/2024 09:51

wwyd2021medicine · 09/01/2024 09:48

With your budget, would you consider a flat rather than a house?
Personally I'd prefer a flat in a better area to a house in a less nice one.
There are lots of flats in edgbaston and harborne area if looking at KES

probably not
as i see there are many semi around 300-350k

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wwyd2021medicine · 09/01/2024 09:48

With your budget, would you consider a flat rather than a house?
Personally I'd prefer a flat in a better area to a house in a less nice one.
There are lots of flats in edgbaston and harborne area if looking at KES

Lalagu · 09/01/2024 09:09

senua · 09/01/2024 08:53

right side of Hagley Road, you mean close to Morrisons and Marriott hotel?
South side, anywhere up to 5 miles out is good to live. Don't know about transport, though.

I looked up NewName24's suggestion of the Chinese Methodist congregation; it is at B31 2PH. The railway station is B31 2QJ. The area around there is OK but I'd stay away from houses on the busy main roads. Here's one, for example, which is in your budget and your DS could catch the bus or the train. Pineview

very detailed.....and extremely useful! Flowers

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senua · 09/01/2024 08:53

right side of Hagley Road, you mean close to Morrisons and Marriott hotel?
South side, anywhere up to 5 miles out is good to live. Don't know about transport, though.

I looked up NewName24's suggestion of the Chinese Methodist congregation; it is at B31 2PH. The railway station is B31 2QJ. The area around there is OK but I'd stay away from houses on the busy main roads. Here's one, for example, which is in your budget and your DS could catch the bus or the train. Pineview

Check out this 3 bedroom detached house for sale on Rightmove

3 bedroom detached house for sale in Pineview, Northfield, Birmingham, B31 for £320,000. Marketed by Robert Oulsnam and Company, Northfield

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/142244066#/?channel=RES_BUY

Lalagu · 09/01/2024 03:49

sashh · 09/01/2024 03:27

This might sound frivolous but if you are going back and forth then Cathay Pacific fly non stop manchester to Hong Kong, fights to/from Birmingham all have at least one stop.

flight is not key concern for our family as we will generally be back to HK once per year and both cities have international airports....14 or 18 hrs are indifferent to us

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sashh · 09/01/2024 03:27

This might sound frivolous but if you are going back and forth then Cathay Pacific fly non stop manchester to Hong Kong, fights to/from Birmingham all have at least one stop.

caringcarer · 09/01/2024 01:50

I don't know anything about MGS or Manchester but I know KE is a very good school. They get excellent results. You could probably live on the outskirts of Birmingham. There is a diverse population in Birmingham and lots of things to do.

Lalagu · 09/01/2024 00:41

NewName24 · 08/01/2024 19:10

You're not going to get anything in Edgbaston or Moseley (in the parts you'd want to live) for OP's budget though.

There is a large Chinese Methodist congregation who meet in Northfield (some local, some traveling from different parts of the City, and also way outside the City. I am aware they have been welcoming a lot of families moving to Birmingham from Hong Kong.

yup my budget is not abundant and thus locating a place is tough

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Lalagu · 09/01/2024 00:30

ALongProcess · 08/01/2024 19:56

No clue about MGS but KES is very well regarded in Birmingham and further afield and would be an excellent choice. Opportunities to mix with girls at the sister school too if that is important to you.

There are plenty of areas with decent housing within your budget in walking distance of KES. Selly Oak as a number of others have suggested, Selly Park borders around Umberslade Road/Warwards Lane, or towards Bournville.

appreciate

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Lalagu · 09/01/2024 00:08

MailMe1 · 08/01/2024 19:05

@Lalagu there isn’t a lot in it so to speaking between KES and Solihull School. I’d say KES is more academic and Solihull is an academic school, but there is more of an all round focus. Less tiger parenting! Good luck. But deffo don’t commute from Solihull!

Edgbaston (on the right side of Hagley Road not the wrong side) Bearwood, Moseley, Kings Heath etc are good places. Or further up past Sally Oak then it’s straight down Bristol Road. You could look around Five Ways and he can then jump on the train to University and walk down. Still not the nicest area.

right side of Hagley Road, you mean close to Morrisons and Marriott hotel? thanks!

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Lalagu · 09/01/2024 00:00

NewName24 · 08/01/2024 18:05

There are very frequent buses out along the A38 / Bristol Rd / Bristol Rd Sth which make Selly Oak, Northfield, Longbridge and in to Rednal or Rubery very easy.
Also, anywhere along the cross City Train line (lots of pupils use the train and the station at the University then walk across campus).

As others have said, Northfield High Street is nothing to write home about so people tend to lump the whole area together as being a bit 'meh' but it varies hugely road by road.

Selly Oak to the North of the Bristol Road, behind Northfield Manor Park is nice, but to the South, and closer to the University be wary of living in the part where all the student accommodation is.

I can't speak for Manchester, but in Birmingham a lot of the areas are really mixed. Some houses in Kings North are lovely. Some are okay, some areas of KN come under some of the worst social housing estates but other areas have some beautiful £million+ houses. So it is difficult to say a whole area is good or bad.

Your budget is tight for a family needing 3 useable bedrooms.
It seems an unusual mix to be wanting to pay private school fees when your budget is what it is.

thanks! your suggestion is handy.
as we dedicate more resources on education and thus limited our budget on housing; in addition, we are newbie and hard to find a good job here, so need to assign extra for livelihood

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Mumaway · 08/01/2024 21:44

Manchester and surroundings (especially south) has a strong Hong Kong expat community, and there are lots of boys at MGS with that heritage. It's also a great place to live, with great transport links, a bustling city and lovely surrounding countryside. Much nice than Birmingham IMO!

Myshott · 08/01/2024 21:41

Lalagu · 08/01/2024 14:06

if taking Stockport Primark as the centre, which direction is good place to live (East South West North)? thanks!

Heaton Moor, Heaton Chapel, Heaton Mersey
Cheadle
Gatley
Didsbury
Urmston*
Flixton*
Sale*
Hazel Grove
Bramhall
Marple
Romiley

*These locations are in Trafford which has seen one of the highest levels of people arriving from Hong Kong. Thriving community

Not:
Wythenshawe
Tameside
Edgeley
Adswood

Maybe (if you like ‘edgey’ areas):
Stretford
Chorlton
Levenshulme

senua · 08/01/2024 21:26

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 08/01/2024 17:34

Which King Edward's school do you mean in Birmingham ? The fee paying one ? As there are also King Edward's Grammar schools - possibly 5 different schools around Birmingham .

Agree with other posters that Northfield / Longbridge areas in the main aren't the best - although appreciate you are working with a budget .

The Grammar schools operate under catchment areas these days. It has to be KES if they are coming from Hong Kong!

ALongProcess · 08/01/2024 19:56

No clue about MGS but KES is very well regarded in Birmingham and further afield and would be an excellent choice. Opportunities to mix with girls at the sister school too if that is important to you.

There are plenty of areas with decent housing within your budget in walking distance of KES. Selly Oak as a number of others have suggested, Selly Park borders around Umberslade Road/Warwards Lane, or towards Bournville.

NewName24 · 08/01/2024 19:10

You're not going to get anything in Edgbaston or Moseley (in the parts you'd want to live) for OP's budget though.

There is a large Chinese Methodist congregation who meet in Northfield (some local, some traveling from different parts of the City, and also way outside the City. I am aware they have been welcoming a lot of families moving to Birmingham from Hong Kong.

MailMe1 · 08/01/2024 19:05

@Lalagu there isn’t a lot in it so to speaking between KES and Solihull School. I’d say KES is more academic and Solihull is an academic school, but there is more of an all round focus. Less tiger parenting! Good luck. But deffo don’t commute from Solihull!

Edgbaston (on the right side of Hagley Road not the wrong side) Bearwood, Moseley, Kings Heath etc are good places. Or further up past Sally Oak then it’s straight down Bristol Road. You could look around Five Ways and he can then jump on the train to University and walk down. Still not the nicest area.

MailMe1 · 08/01/2024 19:02

It’s common in Asian families to prioritise school fees over housing.