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Moving from US High School to UK Secondary

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tropicaltailwind · 22/11/2023 14:48

Can British expat kids currently in US High School system successfully transfer to UK Secondary School for A levels?

My family are UK citizens in British Overseas Territory - DS is 12/13, currently in small private US-system High School for ADHD/autistic/gifted/other neurodivergencies kids.

At some point we will move back to UK.
I would like help understanding how it works/if it’s possible to start A levels if he has no GCSEs.
What alternatives to A levels are there for students educated abroad?

He’s been in a UK-curriculum inclusive mainstream School from Y3 to Y7 but moved to the US-curriculum school for what would be UK Y8 (7th Grade) as the previous school only goes up to Y7.

If accessing A levels without GCSEs in the UK is really tough we will need to move back to UK sooner than planned, which will be v tricky. Thanks for any advice.

(I originally posted in Chat and then found this forum after I’d posted)

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LIZS · 31/12/2023 18:07

And ranking : ib-schools.com/league-tables/uk-top-ib-schools but many take gcse rather than following pyp and myp prior to year 12.

LIZS · 31/12/2023 18:03

You need to narrow down which schools offer ib diploma and would accept without gcses. If you plan to remain in uk long term it would be worth taking English and Maths gcse at least since most employers expect it. List here: www.ibo.org/programmes/find-an-ib-school/?SearchFields.Region=&SearchFields.Country=GB&SearchFields.Keywords=&SearchFields.Language=&SearchFields.BoardingFacilities=&SearchFields.SchoolGender=&SearchFields.ProgrammeDP=true

Keryne · 31/12/2023 18:03

@tennissquare thank you. My main question right now is :

My question is, has anyone had an experience of moving to the UK and their teen going straight into the 2 year IB programme. How was that for them. We have UK passports and NZ passports so not daughter will not be an international student.

tennissquare · 31/12/2023 17:45

@Keryne , you should start with ACS Cobham to get an idea of the cost / difficultly.

Keryne · 31/12/2023 17:44

@tennissquare sorry just new to mumsnet, no not yet. Thinking of Surrey, Woking area.

tennissquare · 31/12/2023 17:43

You would do best to start a new thread with where you will be based in the U.K. and the age of your dd. As you may know state places are allocated by the post code of where you live so you can't apply until you have a home in the uk. Private schools and further education colleges can offer options but your dd needs to be in the school year so aged 16 on 1 Sept 2024 (or turning 17 on that day). She will need to pass an exam to be offered a place at a private school that takes international students.
Re university, you need to be resident in the uk for 3 continual years to apply as a home student for home fees, it's worth arriving in the uk as soon as possible to build up the time if you are considering a Uk uni.

Keryne · 31/12/2023 17:24

No not yet. Any suggestions?

tennissquare · 31/12/2023 17:20

@Keryne , do you have a place lined up at a private school already?

Keryne · 31/12/2023 16:03

Hi, we are moving from NZ to UK for Sept 2024 school year. My daughter will begin the IB as will have missed out on GCSE and A Levels as will be over 16. My question is, has anyone had an experience of this and how difficult is it for them to go straight into the IB without having known the teachers etc. Any advise or opinions appreciated.

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tennissquare · 23/11/2023 20:51

Due to the US airforces bases at Mildenhall and Lakenheath plus all the international movement around the science park and uni in Cambridge im sure the schools in East Anglia are quite use to students moving with international qualifications. Try Framlingham College in Suffolk and Greshams in Norfolk.
Greshams has an IB programme and Btec options which are a practical option to A levels - the agricultural course is meant to be amazing. It also has a Dyson state of the art STEAM centre.

JustWingItLifeEyelinerEverything · 23/11/2023 20:44

Over the decades a multiple waves of immigrants arrived to UK. Most recently Ukrainians. They simply went to the age related year. Only those who didn't know English had a big challenge.

Wishthiswasntthecase · 23/11/2023 19:06

ultimately the school will have the discretion to admit or not. I lead a sixth form college, we have taken students from all over the world. Depending on the subjects they want to take we do sometimes ask for them to sit an entrance test (maths, science, languages where specific prior knowledge is required). The only students we have had transfer from the American education system in recent years have struggled though. One returned to the American system, the other had to resit his first year. The assessment methods were just so different - all testing in the USA had been multiple choice (I realise this won’t always be the case but it was in his high school) and he really struggled with long answer essay style questions. We’ve had much more success with students from Australia and New Zealand. And as previous posters said there will be an expectation of Maths and English at GCSE unless the student already has an equivalent qualification

Rummikub · 23/11/2023 19:03

Some schools/ colleges might give an assessment to check levels.

tropicaltailwind · 23/11/2023 18:57

We were intending to move back when he’s 16 to take UK A levels in East Anglia but still unsure if that’s possible given he’d be half way through US high school system.

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tropicaltailwind · 23/11/2023 18:54

Thank you very much for the information which I’m digesting and researching. I’m going to book a session with a local school placement consultant and visit the boarding school fair to ask the reps of UK boarding schools what they accept (free advice even though not looking at boarding). We are trying to get him into a UK- curriculum high school. Place depends on result of an Ed psych report which we are waiting on. His current school only offers ACT/SAT and AP in science and math. I guess it might be possible to arrange private tutoring after school to take IGCSE in English and Math.

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Rummikub · 23/11/2023 15:41

Id suggest moving for GCSE or once meet uni entry reqs.

We would check the level and allocate an appropriate level course. Some countries don’t have a GCSE equivalent and jump from junior cert type (Below GCSE) to senior (level 3 A level equivalent).

mugofstew · 23/11/2023 15:34

So it must be possible to move from American teaching into IB, the USA schools don't have formal external exams prior to IB starting.

mugofstew · 23/11/2023 15:32

I would be trying to find an IB school.
International schools do it after GCSES and quite a few American schools offer it as well in my State.

LIZS · 23/11/2023 15:28

There would be no gcse requirement to enter year 12 and they tend to attract expat and international families. Still might be an issue longer term though as gcses or equivalent in English and Maths are expected in UK.

JustWingItLifeEyelinerEverything · 23/11/2023 15:25

And how would that help OP?

LIZS · 23/11/2023 15:23

JustWingItLifeEyelinerEverything · 23/11/2023 15:18

Isn't IB an alternative rather to A- levels for older kids? To take IB you have to have GCSE or comparative exam

It depends, there are Primary Years and Middle Years IB programmes which precede the diploma and can be taught in lieu of national curriculum and gcses, but few schools in UK offer it and those that do are fee paying.

JustWingItLifeEyelinerEverything · 23/11/2023 15:18

Isn't IB an alternative rather to A- levels for older kids? To take IB you have to have GCSE or comparative exam

BusySittingDown · 22/11/2023 19:47

My DD has just started 6th form college after doing GCSEs and has made friends with a girl who moved here from America in August. The first question my DD asked her was how she got into college without GCSEs. Apparently she got her diploma 2 years early and that has enabled her to transfer to 6th form.

From what I understand (I've never met the girl but she hangs out with DD a lot), she's half British and half American.

Zimbolino · 22/11/2023 19:41

Many Sixth Forms (but not all) will offer Maths and English resit lessons alongside A-Levels. Any (state) Sixth Form will need to show that either the student is studying Maths and English GCSE, or has passed it. (If they are taking Maths A-Level however, the student is exempt from the maths GCSE course.)