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Coats on at school

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Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 17:54

Teachers seem to be excessively cracking down on anyone wearing coats in school.
Can anyone explain why? The problem is the school is cold and admittedly they do wear short skirts. But staff aren't cracking down on the short skirts.

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ReadyForPumpkins · 17/11/2023 19:03

@Ratsoffasinkingsauage probably on the basis that I wear a big woolley jumper in the office and others have short sleeved t-shirts on. We are all different and I don't understand why people can't accept it. Are they not teaching diversity in schools?

Coats are a problem and should not be worn indoors. However, there aren't enough options in the school uniform for those who feel the cold to feel warm enough. There's one school jumper in DD school only. What if you are still cold in it? Or you feel too hot with it on but too cold with a short sleeved polo? Maybe less restrictive uniform choices like in primaries where you can buy from supermarkets help.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 17/11/2023 19:02

All schools are under resourced and short on space. How hard is it to take off a coat when you enter a lesson and hang it on the back of your chair? We aren’t expecting them to do anything difficult.

I would love it if we had enough secure lockers and a proper canteen (we are dreadfully short of space) but the government don’t seem to think it is a pressing issue.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 17/11/2023 18:59

@Flyhigher

On what evidence do you base your assertion that classrooms are cold? I had to take off my cardigan today and roll up my sleeves because it was so baking in the classroom.

Is there any reason why kids need coats instead of jumpers and vests?

Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:55

Can see the sleeping bag issue. Yes.
It's a nightmare for my slim 16DD who is then wet and cold all day due to rain and asks for lifts.
I think check out the cloakroom situation people before you commit to a school! It's a sign of under resourcing!

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Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:51

Her coat is slim. I can see the big puffer coat issue. They do have lockers. But not enough for everyone. She complains that her locker is far away from everything and she can't use it.
She probably could use it for her coat though.

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Needmorelego · 17/11/2023 18:44

Part of the reason teens don't wear coats is because they have nowhere to put them during the school day - no lockers or pegs - and they aren't allowed to wear them indoors. So they simply don't bother because they don't want to carry them around.
Can you imagine adults at work who every time they need to move from one room to another or one meeting to another having to hump their coat over their arm (while also carrying their work equipment plus a large bag). It would be ridiculous. But we expect teens to do it.
Give them lockers FFS.

AIstolemylunch · 17/11/2023 18:38

I was just thinking this 😂😂 I think the only reason mine have never got into trouble for wearing coats in school is they only rarely have them with them.

Their schools both hate it though, I have to say. I thinks its becasue they all have massive puffer ones now and they all get in the way, fall off back of chairs because they're heavy etc.

Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:36

It's just so cold in the lunch cafe. And in some classrooms. Also walking about the school it's cold. There are no cloakrooms. So it means carrying around a heavy extra bag all day. Or get wet the whole way in and sit in wet clothes for half the day.

If you don't have cloakrooms. You should let them wear coats. They have to carry it in a bag anyway. Coats off in class maybe. But corridors and lunch allow coats.

Or close all the doors and heat the school properly. We have gone back to Dickensian times. When Cameron talked about austerity he meant if.

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Night409 · 17/11/2023 18:32

In my school the students were allowed to wear their coats during covid because the windows had to be open.

Their behaviour got considerably worse.

They we’re also cold when they got outside because they had no other layers to put on.

I assume it’s to do with behaviour.

But I think under layers work better than a coat indoors anyway.
Wearing a cost whilst trying to write isn’t very comfortable.

They should be tackling the skirt situation, most schools are quite hot on it.
Why do you think they’re not?

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 17/11/2023 18:32

Really straightforward really:

1)they are fashion items mostly. We have a group of lads who all have huge Canada Goode puffer jackets. They roam around in them all day without blazers in underneath and use them as sleeping bags in lessons. It it a pain

2)Students use them as a way round uniform rules. Hoodies and coats instead of their blazers and jumpers. I find it very strange that a kid can have a hugely expensive designer hoodie but no school jumper.

  1. They get everywhere and never on the back of their chairs. I have lost count of the number of time I have tripped over coats that have been dumped on the floor by a kid while I am trying to move around the classroom. Most classrooms are short of space.

Our students are allowed wear them on the bus and in the playground. They have to take them off once they are in the building and in the classroom, which I think is fair.

LaChatte · 17/11/2023 18:31

We don't have school uniform but we do make the kids take their coats off, would feel weird teaching a room full of people with outdoor coats on!

Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:22

Why don't they crack down on the skirts instead?

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Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:21

We had a winter and summer uniform.
Girls didn't need to wear blazers in the summer at all. Boys had to wear them to school. But could leave them in the cloakroom in the day.

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twistyizzy · 17/11/2023 18:16

@Coldia yes and famously cheap to buy too! Seriously yes it is high maintenence but it toasty warm and helps with the lack of heating in some classrooms.

Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:15

Obviously not a city state school if they have cloakrooms! So regret sending her to this school. Need to have a school with cloakrooms!

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Coldia · 17/11/2023 18:14

twistyizzy · 17/11/2023 18:11

DDs school they can take/wear their coats in school. The only coats they are allowed though is the school one but as they also have a mandatory wool blazer a lot of the kids don't have a coat.

Ah yes wool. That famously waterproof and easy to clean fabric. A savvy choice by a school in a country where it's winter for six months of the bloody year. Makes you wonder why we don't all walk around in wool blazers.

Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:13

Once they hit year 11. They suddenly want coats! Before that. No way!

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PuttingDownRoots · 17/11/2023 18:13

Lamelie · 17/11/2023 18:06

What’s a cloakroom? Wink

That was my reaction when DD told me they had them! They have hooks for coats and lockers for them all. One per year group!

Flyhigher · 17/11/2023 18:12

They don't have cloakrooms! Very large overcrowded school.

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twistyizzy · 17/11/2023 18:11

DDs school they can take/wear their coats in school. The only coats they are allowed though is the school one but as they also have a mandatory wool blazer a lot of the kids don't have a coat.

Coldia · 17/11/2023 18:09

Yy. And branded pe kit and trainers, football boots etc.

WhatNoRaisins · 17/11/2023 18:08

We had this daft rule that you had to carry coats in a bag. Good luck with the multiple textbooks you had to bring in just in case.

Coldia · 17/11/2023 18:07

Schools are obsessed with what pupils wear. Coats is just one aspect of this. It's difficult to take their demands seriously though when most secondary schools don't have locker/cloakroom space to put coats in. Or boots for that matter.

Lamelie · 17/11/2023 18:06

PuttingDownRoots · 17/11/2023 17:57

Coats need to be in cloakrooms at DDs school. Simple reason is they get in the way in classrooms.

What’s a cloakroom? Wink

ShowOfHands · 17/11/2023 18:04

Everybody wears coats at our secondary. I've never encountered this coat refusal people describe.