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Dyscalculia and reasonable adjustments

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MarmeeMarch4 · 04/11/2023 18:16

My daughter was diagnosed with dyscalculia in 2022, at the very end of year 4. She is now in year 6 and passed all areas of the Kent Test except - surprise surprise - maths. Her Ed Psych report shows above average cognitive ability in all areas, and a specific problem with number (not shape, geometry, logic etc, which are all in the same range as her other abilities).

Going forward, for any appeal we may or may not lodge on her behalf to a grammar school, but also for SATS and general secondary school education, we know that there are particular adjustments that would enable her to access higher level maths questions. These are: a number line, a times table square, and a calculator that shows workings. If she had those, which would take away the problem of working memory which is a central feature of the condition, she is perfectly capable of understanding the calculations and the logic of any given maths problem. But these are not allowed in the UK (they are in parts of the US and in some other European countries).

I know some of you will say 'she just needs to learn her times tables' etc, 'and if she can't she just isn't good at maths'. But actually, without these things, she can't even try the higher level questions or begin to think about more complex reasoning. With them, she is capable of so much more. It's like she's just stuck behind this stupid barrier, which is actually meaningless (it is perfectly possible, even in a career that involves complex maths, to use a calculator and/or have a times table square on your desk - these are very low level skills to do with memory rather than actual maths. She understands the principles, but struggles to retain number facts). It feels to me as if understanding and resources for dyslexia are so much better than for dyscalculia, which is so poorly understood by the education system. And it also feels like this is a barrier to children actually being able to access large parts of the maths curriculum because of some needless ideological bullshit about calculators and dumbing down, or the current government's obsession with rote learning. Has anybody been in this position, and has anybody found a way around it?

I know that in the SATS, and even at GCSE, none of these accommodations are allowed as it is felt they would unfairly advantage children with dyscalculia. But I also feel like it is just straight up disability discrimination. I'm just looking for a sense of whether there are other people out there dealing with a similar issue, really ... as well as any potential solutions people might have.

Sorry for the essay, and TIA for any constructive advice!

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noblegiraffe · 04/11/2023 20:56

That info from the BDA appears to be rambling nonsense, rather than anything evidenced and coherent.

Bimblesalong · 04/11/2023 20:46

Take a look at the British dyslexia association website. Dyscalculia is now becoming more widely recognised and the BDA are rolling out training for specialist teachers, assessors and other information for parents and professionals.
It was redefined in 2019 and is now defined as a specific difficulty in number sense.

https://www.bdadyslexia.org.uk/dyscalculia#:~:text=Dyscalculia%20is%20a%20specific%20and,across%20all%20ages%20and%20abilities.

Dyscalculia - British Dyslexia Association

What is Dyscalculia? Dyscalculia is a specific and persistent difficulty in understanding numbers which can lead to a diverse range of difficulties with…

https://www.bdadyslexia.org.uk/dyscalculia#:~:text=Dyscalculia%20is%20a%20specific%20and,across%20all%20ages%20and%20abilities.

noblegiraffe · 04/11/2023 20:28

dyscalculia is a recognised SEN and the idea it isn’t, as one of the posters has put, is one of the problems I think

I've been teaching maths for 18 years and the number of kids I've taught with a diagnosis of dyscalculia is less than 5, where I've taught hundreds of kids with a diagnosis of dyslexia. So if you were to ask my school what interventions there are for kids with a diagnosis of dyscalculia, they'd say, 'there aren't, but here's what we do for kids with difficulties with maths'.

Lots of kids have lots of different problems with maths for various reasons. Diagnostic criteria from some sources would say dyscalculia presents as a difficulty with all areas of maths (which would rule out your DD). The list of symptoms on Wikipedia includes things such as maths anxiety or inability to concentrate which I would say are different things entirely.

It's something that's particularly poorly defined and researched. Lots of places won't give it as a diagnosis.

MarmeeMarch4 · 04/11/2023 19:23

Also making a times table grid - great idea.

partly I’d like to campaign for better understanding and arrangements but have no idea how

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MarmeeMarch4 · 04/11/2023 19:19

Thank you - these are really helpful replies. I have the Ronit Bird book which is really helpful.

dyscalculia is a recognised SEN and the idea it isn’t, as one of the posters has put, is one of the problems I think. For years we were just told her anxiety about maths was her August birthday, her general shyness, etc. It was as clear as day during lockdown that she can do everything fine, but has a real barrier around comprehending the value and meaning of numbers. That is the definition and it is accepted widely. As I said, her ability in all other cognitive areas is fine - we have an Ed psych report that clearly explains that. But all the time people don’t really count or recognise it, necessary adjustments are not made.

great idea on the ruler. She uses fingers for tables but it takes time. She already has extra time in tests and did in the Kent Test (will in the SATs).

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FallingAutumnLeaf · 04/11/2023 18:48

Work arounds:
How long a number line would be beneficial? Can she use a 30cm ruler for that purpose?

How long would it take to make a times table grid for use in each exam - ie spend the first 5 mins creating the table for use in the rest of the test?

FWIW, I don't know all my tables, but use my fingers, and counting forward/backwards from one's I do know. I have a STEM BSc, MSc and job.

noblegiraffe · 04/11/2023 18:35

Dyscalculia isn’t really recognised as a specific SEN by the education system because generally it turns out to be maths ability impacted by some other SEN such as poor working memory or slow processing speed, or poor foundational knowledge of maths taught in primary school impacting later understanding.

Not knowing your times tables is a barrier, yes. Can she compensate with writing them out, finger counting and other methods of constructing the answers?

At GCSE 2/3s of the papers are calculator allowed.

Rolypoly2961 · 04/11/2023 18:33

The only access arrangement available at present would be extra time - presuming she has a below average score on a measure of maths fluency and one other area of cognitive processing. Have you looked at the ronitbird website/books http://www.ronitbird.com/ There are some excellent activities to support a sense of number and to help learning times tables

Ronit Bird - Specialist in Dyscalculia and Arithmetic Difficulties

http://www.ronitbird.com/