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Is there any DeI-free private girls school in Hertfordshire?

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 26/09/2023 20:42

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone knew about schools in Hertfordshire where gender identity was not a thing.
Thanks!

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 02/10/2023 19:39

@ZolaBudd the girls do not pretend to be part of the staff. Doing a job for the staff… what does that mean? I think they rightly feel proud of their school, and that’s fine.

For info. I didn’t quiz her, just asked one simple question with the option of not responding (I think oils r feel offended) and she was polite enough to respond.

I am browsing schools for my little one and need to get an idea from an actual student, on how those ideas are lived in at school.

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ZolaBudd · 29/09/2023 06:56

I think it’s a bit unfair to quiz kids on it during a tour
they’re doing a job for the staff, prob are a bit nervous anyway and they’re not the decision makers

EveryBlinkingDay · 29/09/2023 06:52

WorkinMumsince4ever · 28/09/2023 21:57

@EveryBlinkingDay , I got curious as well. Just saw they removed “girls” from their language in the “safeguarding” section. Very disappointing

”Queenswood is committed to promoting and ensuring the safety and well-being of every pupil at the School. All children have the right to feel safe and protected from any form of abuse. The best interests of the child are paramount to enable children to have the best outcome. This policy ensures compliance with all relevant legislation and guidance including: Keeping Children Safe in Education (2023) (KCSIE); Working Together to Safeguard Children (2018) (WTSC) and Prevent legislation (2015).”

Are boys' schools doing the same?

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 28/09/2023 21:58

@BarqsHasBite totally agree. This is like cancer. Worse than I dared to believe. How many are being indoctrinated? It makes me want to scream.

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 28/09/2023 21:57

@EveryBlinkingDay , I got curious as well. Just saw they removed “girls” from their language in the “safeguarding” section. Very disappointing

”Queenswood is committed to promoting and ensuring the safety and well-being of every pupil at the School. All children have the right to feel safe and protected from any form of abuse. The best interests of the child are paramount to enable children to have the best outcome. This policy ensures compliance with all relevant legislation and guidance including: Keeping Children Safe in Education (2023) (KCSIE); Working Together to Safeguard Children (2018) (WTSC) and Prevent legislation (2015).”

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BarqsHasBite · 28/09/2023 09:15

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EveryBlinkingDay · 28/09/2023 09:11

Queenswood?

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 28/09/2023 08:57

@BarqsHasBite , for the top school I visited (referring to the girl I mentioned), casually asked “I noticed your diversity flag, how does the school implement it on the day to day basis?”

For other schools: “what is your policy regarding DeI?” Listen, then “what about gender identity?”

Very open questions.

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BarqsHasBite · 28/09/2023 07:24

@WorkinMumsince4ever how have you been framing your questions to schools/pupils on yours? Am curious as to how you introduce the subject.

deltablue · 27/09/2023 22:25

St Columbia's- refreshingly untainted by all that bollocks. Kind, sensible, reasonably academic but not pushy, and superb pastoral care. Most of the kids there are not Catholic btw, and a very good mix

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 27/09/2023 21:54

@BarqsHasBite I was looking at the same schools as well. Attended an open day at Beko, asked about Del (should have been more direct) and got a politically correct answer.
You’re right, St Columbus may be an option, but can’t stand my daughter asking then to go to the church (she attended catholic school before). From one religion to another.

Need to consider that option, do not engage… however I hate to say it, but my daughter pays attention and (despite all my efforts), she wants to believe the teachers and institutions. Teaching the art of critical thinking feels like teaching rocket science at times.

Thank you all, 99% of you are stars!

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SaffronSpice · 27/09/2023 21:51

iffyi · 26/09/2023 20:43

everybody has gender identity, i think you’d be pretty hard pushed to find somewhere where it is not a thing. i imagine you don’t want any pronouns either?

No gender identity here either. And pronouns are used as they always have been - referencing the sex of an individual when referring to them in the third person so my conversational partner knows who I am referring to.

yumumsun · 27/09/2023 21:48

Anyone one know of one in the south east?

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 27/09/2023 21:44

Thank you @CruCru . We used to live in Nottingham… should have stayed 😬, or maybe not… I didn’t know that person was their MP. how can someone dare to criticise the schools decision?

Just checked the trust website and they have a couple of them not too far from us. Thank you! It bring us hope! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 27/09/2023 21:29

@arethereanyleftatall yes she looked hesitant to discuss.
Yes, it was very strange. Another girl mentioned she wanted to study medicine and enjoyed reading philosophy. She wanted to prepare, understand people before treating them, and mentioned she believed in science.

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arethereanyleftatall · 27/09/2023 08:18

Wow, poor thing sounds scared. It's a horrible situation our girls have been put in.

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 27/09/2023 08:16

@arethereanyleftatall absolutely! Will do. In one of the worst open days I attended, I asked if and how the gender identity was given at school to the girl giving the tour. She changed her expression, reflected, lowered her voice and mentioned that only females were allowed to the school. Couldn’t get more from her. Too bad because the school looked fantastic.

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arethereanyleftatall · 27/09/2023 08:07

@WorkinMumsince4ever
Could you do all women and girls everywhere a favour and when you don't choose stahs and your current - tell them why. We need to make sure everyone hears women saying no.

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 26/09/2023 23:42

@WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports this is extremely helpful! Thank you. I used to work in Ricky and know the school. Their approach sounds super reasonable! Thanks again! I wonder how can people believe in something that doesn’t make sense? I’ll try to move my DD in their prep school, the current one started this week talking about non-scientific stuff (gender identity). I am still livid.

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pastypirate · 26/09/2023 23:42

NegativeCreeep · 26/09/2023 20:45

St Chris School in Letchworth is very liberal (no uniform, teachers called by their first names etc), but is co-ed…

This is my school. It's not as liberal as it was

KnickerlessParsons · 26/09/2023 23:37

iffyi · 26/09/2023 20:43

everybody has gender identity, i think you’d be pretty hard pushed to find somewhere where it is not a thing. i imagine you don’t want any pronouns either?

I don't, thank you very much.
I'm female/a woman. No idea what gender I am though.

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WorkinMumsince4ever · 26/09/2023 23:34

@BarqsHasBite thank you so much for sharing. It’s truly appreciated. My heart shrinks for STAHS. Why would anyone be ok by removing the word “girl” at all?! I was considering that school for my little one. No more. Why do they do that to the girls? Is there an end to the madness?

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arethereanyleftatall · 26/09/2023 23:30

iffyi · 26/09/2023 20:43

everybody has gender identity, i think you’d be pretty hard pushed to find somewhere where it is not a thing. i imagine you don’t want any pronouns either?

You what now?!?

Of course they dont.

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