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Feeling Disheartened With Private School Visits: Very Unpersonalised & Felt Like Cattle Markets

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roses2 · 23/09/2023 13:59

We're in London and have spent the past few weekends visiting private schools. We are huge state school supporters but willing to pay for the right private school.

We've visited four private so far, all well known in London.

  1. School 1 - Great tour - we'll apply for this one
  2. School 2 - "self guided"; didn't reply to my email query I sent regarding common entrance exam; bell rang at end to signify "please leave"
  3. School 3 - "self guided" again
  4. School 4 - had a student guide but they seemed unmotivated; couldn't help with half the questions

2; 3 and 4 all felt a bit like cattle markets. And all charge ~£25k/year. This is our first venture into looking at private but I expected something a bit more personalised especially if this is the sales part where they should be selling the school to me. I'm thinking of scrapping half of them from the list.

Is this what visits to popular private schools are like? Where you are just a number? Does it get better once you are in??

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EarthlyNightshade · 23/09/2023 18:19

What do you mean by you are "huge state school supporters"?
Surely if you are, you would just send you DC to a state school.

tennissquare · 23/09/2023 18:05

Yes agree@justanotherdaduser , 6000 visitors were expected at Hampton this morning.

justanotherdaduser · 23/09/2023 17:58

As a PP said, it's a sellers' market. The most sought after indies in London are heavily oversubscribed and vast majority of parents visiting a popular school will not have an offer from the school in February.

So if I am thinking cynically, I would probably say at this stage of the process, the popular schools do not need to care a lot about providing highly personalised services to a "customer". The schools choose DC, not the other way round.

But from my own experience, that version isn't really true most of the time -- most schools, even the most sought after ones, really do try, but huge oversubscription and parents registering to many more schools now days, make it impossibly hard for schools with limited resources to provided a personalised service to all parents visiting in open days. In many schools there are 10 or more visitors for every place in year 7.

You will get much more attention once you have offer(s) in hand and in offer holders' events. Ditto when your DC is a student.

Regarding school 4 (unmotivated student) - please do not judge the school by that alone. That child may have been having a bad day, may have already showed the school to other parents few times this year already, or just bored. They do it several times a year. Except for year 7s, and sometime the older children with a sense of responsibility towards the school, most are pretty bored by year 8. (I know because DD and her friends in year 8 moan about it during open days!)

ThingsWillWorkOut · 23/09/2023 15:48

I would recommend Hampton Boys if you are in the area. Loovely school and great results

Grantanow · 23/09/2023 15:08

All depends on the quality of the cattle and the cattle herders!

HawaiiWake · 23/09/2023 15:07

It is about the entire process and not just Open Day. We had great process and a new person in charge of admissions and it went downhill rapidly. Others, good Open day, great Admission communications etc. It is more than 1 Open Day. We know of great school, great process and rumours of low level bullying in different year groups….under the term it is being dealt and help build resilience.
Also, check GCSEs for options. Some schools limit to 9, get higher grades but not broad enough. Good luck!

RedCarBlueCar123 · 23/09/2023 14:52

Which school is this please?

PreplexJ · 23/09/2023 14:46

Some of the schools are oversubscribed and it is sellers market, they don't need to put on a hard sale. I do think it is your DCs personal experience not the marketing experience that matters....

twistyizzy · 23/09/2023 14:24

DDs private school is/was the total opposite. Very warm and personalised. If you felt like it was a cattle market at open day when they are meant to be "putting on a show" then I would personally avoid.
What we liked in particular was that every parent and child was invited (if you wanted + you had to pre-book) to a private 20 min talk with the Headmaster in his study. He took time to get to know DD, her likes, dislikes etc.
Ask if they do individual tours?

underneaththeash · 23/09/2023 14:20

Your DC only need one school and hopefully it's number 1.

I wouldn't bother applying to the other schools.

tennissquare · 23/09/2023 14:18

The key to 11 plus entry is that the school is choosing it's pupils via the entrance exams not the other way. Once you get an offer there is another chance to visit when the sales pitch comes into full force (plus during the on-site exam and interviews you get some insight).
Go for schools you like and a range where you think your dc get an offer.

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