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Trinity & Whitgift 10+/11+ exams 2024 entry

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SunshineandRainbowMum · 13/09/2023 22:21

Hi everyone,

I'm starting a new thread for those with children who are sitting for the 10+ Trinity and Whitgift exams this year.

I've been lurking for years reading through the 10+ and 11+ past threads, silently sharing in the anxiety, pain and joy of those parents that have come before me 😅.

I can't believe that the time is now here for my DS to sit the 10+ exams.

Are there any other parents that would like to jump on board this thread so we can support each other through the next few months?

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RockaLock · 26/01/2024 18:37

It might help posters if you could give us an idea of what Mr K said. SEN covers a wide range of things and you might get more helpful replies from people in similar situations.

For example, DS2 is deaf and has physical problems, but we have always found the school to be very helpful and supportive of him.

Pollypocket81 · 26/01/2024 17:28

Please could you PM me too? I have an SEN son and want to make sure we make right decision.

F1okoboji · 26/01/2024 14:07

Can I ask what Mr Kennedy said about Sen schools and prep schools. I gather it was derogative. You could pm me as I really would like to know where you are coming from. Thank you moresleepandwine

Moresleepandwine · 26/01/2024 12:45

Did anyone have the opportunity to meet Mr Kennedy at Trinity during their DS interview?

We had a separate meeting with him while DS was being interviewed for the 10+ and came away somewhat disappointed. He was nice but we felt he was too focused on exam results. He also had some worrying comments to make about SEN and prep schools.

Trinity was always our first choice and we had been very impressed with Mr Kennedy until now but we are now wondering if we have seen the true face of the school instead.

Has anyone had any similar experiences with Trinity? Would love some feedback from current parents!

flashinhk · 25/01/2024 14:45

Hi all, re the 10+ of T and W, did anyone hear from the Foundation about the bursary after the interview? Thanks

adnatiktok · 24/01/2024 18:44

my son got invited for interview for W and then the following day we received email asking him to come back for academic scholarship. is this normal?

F1okoboji · 24/01/2024 11:04

Good luck to everyone

Hedgehog27 · 24/01/2024 10:54

Re Saturday sport & outside activities...our DS1 joined T in Year 6 and has really enjoyed Saturday sport. He's gone from being a non sporty boy initially selected for E & F squads to playing sport at a higher level both inside and outside of school. He really loves playing for the school and enjoys connecting with his friends at the weekend. It's also quite a nice social opportunity for parents too and a good way to be part of the school community. DS1 has also joined CCF which is another reason to be at school outside of formal hours but he loves it all and is very happy. We've applied for 11+ for our younger son who had his interview last week. Fingers crossed, we would love him to have the same experience

londonlady2023 · 24/01/2024 09:24

@Balhamdad11 you have made me feel much better knowing others like your DS also got English questions. I was a bit worried because I read into the read out from the interviewer that my DS’ comprehension was the weakest though met their benchmark. Maths, critical thinking and creative writing strong. So wondered if he got singled out as there might have been a worry. But I expect I’m overthinking! Need to not over analyse. It’s hard when a school emerges as a favourite and therefore you care more.

Balhamdad11 · 24/01/2024 08:06

Our boy got asked to read a poem and answer some questions about it. But apparently he was within the range they expected for comprehension and was ‘towards the very top’ at creative writing and critical thinking papers. Another boy in his class was also asked comprehension questions and this particular boy has done very well in his exams (Passing Dulwich, City)…. So I wouldn’t read too much into it. Agree that over 100 boys at scholarship assessment is a little worrying! But they’ll probably offer over 200 places to fill the 120 (I’m guessing) so still plenty of spaces

londonlady2023 · 24/01/2024 07:09

In my DS’s Whitgift 11+ interview he did get asked a couple of academic English questions re literary devices etc which was surprising. He could answer them fine. And he said he didn’t get many of the usual questions like why W? The interviewer said to us that he did fine in the exams but I read into it that comprehension was his weakest though met their benchmark fine. Should I be worried? We love W and everyone says their interviews are easy. Did anyone else’s child get any academic questions. I’m a little worried hearing that there were over 100 at the academic assessment. What about the non scholarship people? Hope they still get a good shot.

Pollypocket81 · 23/01/2024 20:55

"I think you can be rather confident unless he gets a particular grilling over something during his interview where there might be academic concerns following the exams. You'll be with him in the room and you'll know. My son (Whitgift year 10) had a very straightforward interview and the offer letter followed soon after. I bet their main aim at interview is to engage your son more fully in the process and to make them more likely to choose Whitgift if they get multiple full-fee offers. Good luck with it all. I remember the emotional rollercoaster well!"

this sounds very positive - do you mean that most of those interviewed for W or T are offered a place?

Pretz123 · 23/01/2024 17:11

My son has a decent sports scholarship at W, I can't fault them for their pastoral and wraparound care in all aspects of school life - they're also very encouraging of trying out and participating in sports other than the one his scholarship is based on.

As with majority of secondary schools they are expected to play on a Saturday when selected....my son continues to play his league sports on a Sunday quite happily.....

RockaLock · 23/01/2024 14:04

Gosh. What a negative way of looking at things.

Of course the majority of boys will not get a scholarship of any description. They are after all supposed to reward exceptional talent/ability.

However.

My 2 DS both have academic scholarships, one at 20%, and nothing else is required other than a scholars' breakfast once a term - and putting in effort in lessons, which they'd do anyway.

I understand that scholarship amounts may have been reduced recently, but even so, Whitgift Foundation scholarships are generally know for being far more generous than most schools. I know plenty of boys with 30%+ for music or sport or academics.

And tbh if the school gives you a chunky scholarship, then why wouldn't you expect to give them something in return, be it performing for the school or playing matches?

If your son is required to sing at Croydon Minster, then presumably they are a choral scholar and as such enjoy singing, so where is the hardship for the child? DS1 only took up singing at T, so no scholarship, but really enjoyed singing at the Minster, as well as at more glamorous locations! If you CBA to drop him off at school for these - then give back the scholarship.

Presumably if you are awarded a sports scholarship, then you'd already be ferrying your DC to matches and practices all the time anyway. But if you don't want the commitment - give back the scholarship.

Are there many honorary scholarships at W & T? I am only aware of a few non-fee-reduction awards for music - but the child gets free music lessons, so that's a saving of £295 a term, it's not just honorary.

Finally, even a 5% reduction is more than £1,000 off the annual fees, which is not to be sniffed at imho.

notafraidofthebigbadwolf · 23/01/2024 13:26

Folks - the harsh truth is that very few boys are going to get scholarship awards that will give meaningful reductions in fees. Some of you will end up with offers of honorary scholarships that give no reduction in fees at all. And they will want their pound of flesh. Your sons will be there at the Minster singing for the choir late at night on Sundays or having to write and perform at the fringe festival, or will have to give up a beloved Saturday team sport (football?) because they've been assigned to the school's rugby or hockey squads. All these things impact on a family and a 5% or 10% saving in fees doesn't really compensate.

notafraidofthebigbadwolf · 23/01/2024 13:12

Balhamdad11 · 17/01/2024 15:38

We have our 11+ interview coming up for Whitgift. Desperately hoping that he's successful and gets an offer as we love the school, and the fact he's passed the bar on the entrance exam I presume means he'd be able to keep up academically. Does anyone have any insights on likelihood of an offer having got to this stage? I find it crazy that you could 'reject' a 10/11 year old child based on an interview. I know that it's all part of the system for London selective schools, but doesn't sit well with me

I think you can be rather confident unless he gets a particular grilling over something during his interview where there might be academic concerns following the exams. You'll be with him in the room and you'll know. My son (Whitgift year 10) had a very straightforward interview and the offer letter followed soon after. I bet their main aim at interview is to engage your son more fully in the process and to make them more likely to choose Whitgift if they get multiple full-fee offers. Good luck with it all. I remember the emotional rollercoaster well!

Hantsmum123 · 23/01/2024 12:54

Does anyone know about numbers for academic scholarships at T and W. Apparently there were more than 100 boys at W today for the scholarship assessment. That seems like an awful lot

Moresleepandwine · 21/01/2024 20:17

@PamZg , I thought that 10-25% is the range for each scholarship and it can be added together for multiple scholarships. Trinity (and Whitgift) have the most generous scholarships in this area. The other schools we visited offered only honorary scholarships of a few hundred pounds.

PamZg · 17/01/2024 20:41

Is anyone aware of the number of academic scholarships Trinity plans to award for boys applying11+? I spoke with Trinity's Head of Admissions a couple of months ago, and he indicated that the school is working to distribute scholarship funding more widely. They aim to offer scholarships ranging from 10% to 25%, so it's likely that 25% is the highest percentage we can anticipate for multiple scholarships, such as Academic + Music or Academic + Sport.

I was hoping for a more substantial scholarship, but it appears that it is unlikely to happen.

Mamahappylove · 17/01/2024 19:57

We have a year 10 son who is very happy at Whitgift and also just tried for our youngest who had an interview on Saturday. It was a very chilled chat where our son amongst other things chatted about how he grows avocado trees 😂

Balhamdad11 · 17/01/2024 17:52

@GiveMeFive thanks for your reply, kind words and advice. I’m definitely trying to refrain from coaching him for it because I think it might make him overthink it on the day and come across less well. Difficult to hold my nerve though!

GiveMeFive · 17/01/2024 17:48

Once the interviews are completed the offers go out as well as the waiting place letters. There are always more offers than places as some boys have several offers. The waiting list then starts to move.
The kindest thing you can do is take up or reject the offer as it is always agonising for the boys on waiting lists not to mention the anxiety of the parents

GiveMeFive · 17/01/2024 17:44

Hello @Balhamdad11

Ds is currently in Year 12/L6 having started at W in Year 6. The interview is more about seeing if your child is the right fit for the school and obviously if it's the right choice from your prospective. If the pass was borderline then it maybe the opportunity to shine through or confirm that its not the right school academically for your son. No one wants to be in a situation where a child is struggling.
The interviewer will be kind and it's not at all daunting. Its always a postive experience. My advice would be to not tutor or prime your son for the interview. Let him be him.
Wishing you and all your sons good luck. Its a fantastic school.

Balhamdad11 · 17/01/2024 15:38

We have our 11+ interview coming up for Whitgift. Desperately hoping that he's successful and gets an offer as we love the school, and the fact he's passed the bar on the entrance exam I presume means he'd be able to keep up academically. Does anyone have any insights on likelihood of an offer having got to this stage? I find it crazy that you could 'reject' a 10/11 year old child based on an interview. I know that it's all part of the system for London selective schools, but doesn't sit well with me

Mincepies16 · 17/01/2024 10:40

Hi, has anyone not heard back from Trinity regarding interviews for 11+? I’ve had an email on the 9th saying he passed but absolutely crickets after that! I’ve emailed the school and have had no response and am slightly panicking at the moment. Anyone else in the same boat?