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Any advice for teen boy that doesn't want to do anything post GCSE?

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JPW1974 · 24/08/2023 13:07

Son didn't get the grades for 6th form, and is devastated. Angry, won't talk.
Has places at college for other topics, but at the moment saying he won't be going as it was our idea, he never wanted to go.

So, at the moment, he will be doing nothing when the next term starts...

Anybody else found themselves in this situation? If so, any tips on how to get out of it and move on?

He passed maths and English, so great news and massive relief there, but only got 33/40 points needed for 6th form.

I think the main issue at the moment is the feeling that failure as so many of his friends are going to 6th form.

I just don't what happens if he continues to refuse to do anything else.

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winetime123 · 25/08/2023 07:45

It's a shame they can't just go out and get a job. I left voluntarily at 16 just wanted to get out into the world, did a short polytech course on administration and was working in a bank at 18. Ended up going back to uni at 21. But strangely enough I use the admin qualification a lot more than my science degree that cost a million pounds 😅

This is where apprenticeships come in. 80% of the time working 20% of the time training usually day release or block release at college. DS is starting his in September and will have a take home pay per month of over £1000.

winetime123 · 25/08/2023 07:45

It's a shame they can't just go out and get a job. I left voluntarily at 16 just wanted to get out into the world, did a short polytech course on administration and was working in a bank at 18. Ended up going back to uni at 21. But strangely enough I use the admin qualification a lot more than my science degree that cost a million pounds 😅

Peakypolly · 24/08/2023 22:21

Military, service etc out of the question.
Thats a shame, I've seen a couple of teens in a similar position be very happy and achieving much in the navy.

Ineedasitdown · 24/08/2023 22:16

Another vote for him processing it all over the weekend.
schools don’t enroll properly until the beginning of term and same for colleges. There’s a lot of chopping and changing goes on around this time.

what I wouldn’t do is shoehorn him into a level subjects he isn’t fussed on for a place at 6th form. Our local fe college has lower grade boundaries to study a levels than 6th forms. It would still be worth him checking the local fe college requirements. But whatever he does tell him to pick something he’s interested in and he will be fine.

lanthanum · 24/08/2023 22:07

Give him a day or two to process, then go for a long walk/drive and hopefully he'll be more ready to talk. (Lack of eye contact and distractions works wonders for getting them talking.)

16 year olds are expected to be in some form of education or training (although I'm not sure this is policed), so he should sign up for something - perhaps a one year course while he thinks more about what he might like to do. Our local college has a "uniformed public services" course which might suit him - it includes fitness, work experience, adventure training, developing skills in assertiveness, leadership, etc.

Decorhate · 24/08/2023 19:53

Does his current school not offer BTECs or CTECs? If not maybe other local schools will have these options or lower entry requirements for 6th form. This may be preferable to going to college.

ChaoticCrumble · 24/08/2023 18:43

The problem lies in schools treating all students as if they should go to sixth form, when this is only a good idea if they offer a broad enough range to cater to every type of student. If he is not super academic, A levels may not be right regardless and he would only be much unhappier in two years time.

underneaththeash · 24/08/2023 18:23

pimplebum · 24/08/2023 18:01

BTEC in sports ?

I was going to suggest this too with an extra a level in biology or maths. It’s got lots of potential uni options (if you have the extra a level)

Pebblepaint · 24/08/2023 18:16

Honestly I'd try and encourage him do some work at McDonalds as a temporary. It was the best thing that ever happened to DS1. Fully occupied all day, working with young people, learning lots of transferable skills and some (actually decent) money in his pocket. I always think it looks good on a CV too - people know you're not afraid of hard work if you've done a stint at McDonalds. They were really good supportive employers through Covid too.

He can treat it as a temporary job until he decides what he wants to do (as DS did) but DS has stayed in the industry and is now flying high with head office.

CherrySocks · 24/08/2023 18:01

So he only just got the results today? He's upset. He needs time to process. It's a big decision. Give him a few days at least.

School leaving age - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
These are the options if in England:
You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays. You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:

  • stay in full-time education, for example at a college
  • start an apprenticeship or traineeship
  • spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training
pimplebum · 24/08/2023 18:01

BTEC in sports ?

bluebellart · 24/08/2023 17:56

I would give him a few days to process it and get over the initial disappointment. But I would then be making it very clear that doing nothing is not going to be an option, and demanding to know what he's going to do with himself.

As a parent, you simply crack down on it. Whatever he does, it doesn't matter, but he has to do something, or you are not housing/ feeding him. End of.

I know it sounds harsh but it really is what some kids need at that point. He really can't be allowed to see it as an option that he can sit around doing nothing and be subsidised by you financially. He is too old for that now and needs to either contribute financially or be in education.

NorwayLass · 24/08/2023 17:55

Can he do a fitness apprenticeship instead?

boboshmobo · 24/08/2023 17:51

We told dd it's uni or a job .. you choose .. she chose uni .

There is no free loading

LIZS · 24/08/2023 17:45

Maybe suggest in the morning he goes into the college to talk through his options . There should be staff on hand to advise him what would suit his interests and they may have a different entry threshold. What did he want to resit? Could he do so alongside another course there?

Lovemusic82 · 24/08/2023 17:31

Give him time, he’s obviously upset because he didn’t get the results he wanted, it will take him a while to process. Hopefully in a day or two he will be able to sit down and discus his options. If he’s into fitness then there are a lot of options if that’s the area he wants to work in.

JPW1974 · 24/08/2023 17:26

Yeah, I really feel the best thing for him is Sports Coaching at the local college - he goes to the gym 3-4 times a week and loves everything about fitness. I am hoping he will come round to that idea soon ... nothing much I can do now.
Happy he is not in his room, just hope he doesn't get wasted in the park now ...

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Sisterpita · 24/08/2023 17:23

@JPW1974he has done well given the late diagnosis. Has he been given all the tools and techniques that can assist him?

We still focus on academic achievements and university as the goal but that just is not the right path for many people. It’s also something that can come with age. Lots of people do professional qualifications and degrees later in life.

He is 16, it sounds scary but he won’t retire until he is 66 or later. That is 50+ years in which he can study, have several careers etc.

All he needs for now is time to adjust to the change I.e. not going into 6th form. Then work out what he wants to do for the next year or 2. He needs something to expand his horizons, give him some skills, maybe find what works for him and his dyslexia. It also should be something he will hopefully enjoy.

Use the National Careers Service quiz to find out what he may be suited for. Do the skills audit and these may come up with interesting options.

JPW1974 · 24/08/2023 17:02

Sisterpita · 24/08/2023 13:19

I am not being insensitive but were his results a true reflection of his academic/exam ability or did he misread questions or not revise enough? This is a good indicator of what his next steps might be.

He could resit in November or redo the year. He could go in a different direction apprenticeship, military, vocational qualifications.etc.

He needs time to come to terms with the results but then think about what he wants to do. The National Careers Service is a good place to start https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/

I think so. He did great really, he had late dyslexia diagnosis (end of year 10) and got Eng Lan 1 in mocks, but with a lot of tutoring he passed English and Maths.

He did ask about resitting, but to get the points for 6th form he needs another 7 which seems unlikely - basically you need strong passes in all subjects.

He's out with friends now, hopefully they are talking about it. One friend has an interview for 6th form on alternative course, but head of 6th form did not offer this as a suggestion to us earlier, so we guess he was more borderline.

He has no real interests in other things at the moment. He loves fitness/gym, and has a place at a local college, but at the moment saying he doesn't want to do that...

Maybe he will change his mind. Military, service etc out of the question.

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JPW1974 · 24/08/2023 16:53

HappiDaze · 24/08/2023 13:08

Can his school advise him ?

We've asked for a meeting with their careers person. Waiting to hear back.

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Postapocalypticcowgirl · 24/08/2023 14:46

Unfortunately, the longer he takes to process this, the harder it will be to find him something. He probably does just need time, but if he doesn't do anything then options may disappear to other students.

Can you at least accept the place at college, so he's got that as a plan in case nothing else comes up? If he doesn't turn up there in September, it won't be an issue, but if he doesn't accept the place, they could offer it to another student.

I would talk to the school to see if there is any option of him staying on for sixth form, or if they have any other advice- but it sounds like he has missed what he needed by quite a long way.

I totally understand that he's upset- but is there any way you could persuade him to at least talk to the college about his options?

Bunnyannesummers · 24/08/2023 13:45

Give him the weekend to get his head round it and then restart the discussions.

decided what he’d ultimately like to do and work backwards. But be clear doing nothing isn’t an option throughout.

his options include college, A Levels, Btecs, apprenticeships, t levels, volunteering…there lots he could do, depending on his interests

ThePlacesYouWillGo123 · 24/08/2023 13:21

His school will not want him to be a NEET (not in education, employment or training) as this looks bad on their figures at the next census. Push the school to organise a careers meeting with him. As part of the careers guidance for schools, all y11s should have a meaning full discussion with a careers adviser to discuss next steps / career paths / colleges etc and you can try and request some further support. Such support is often funded by local authorities so you may be able to go direct to see if they have any drop in centres for discussions.

Sisterpita · 24/08/2023 13:19

I am not being insensitive but were his results a true reflection of his academic/exam ability or did he misread questions or not revise enough? This is a good indicator of what his next steps might be.

He could resit in November or redo the year. He could go in a different direction apprenticeship, military, vocational qualifications.etc.

He needs time to come to terms with the results but then think about what he wants to do. The National Careers Service is a good place to start https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/

Careers advice - job profiles, information and resources | National Careers Service

https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/

Spendonsend · 24/08/2023 13:18

He needs a day or so to feel a bit crap about it.

Give him a hug, acknowledge his dissapointment, say you are here for him and when he is ready you can help him find a new path that will be ok, but you recognise he needs time to feel low.

Remember he may also be a bit embarrassed if he didnt do as well as he hoped. So i saw some advice saying check how they wants to share the news with relatives/friends etc.

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