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Year 10 - 2023/2024 Support Thread

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QueenMabby · 10/08/2023 15:59

Hi all

A new thread for those needing support (or just wanting to chat or rant!) with teens heading into their GCSE years.

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NotDonna · 16/06/2024 07:57

DD and I were at a Sports Award Event on Fri eve. It’s was a lovely sit down dinner with a fabulous speaker, Sue Antiss, talking about gender equality in sport. It was so much better than I was expecting and even better still as DD won awards for two of her sports! Yaay! Which definitely cheered her up.
@DataColour did you get anywhere with PE video clips? Does he race in a velodrome or is it road racing? I can imagine the latter being a nightmare to capture! DD3 also doing PE, luckily none of hers are summer sports. I’m going to ask to see what’s she done today as I’ve no clue where she’s at with it and whilst I’m sure the school will be reminding them, it’s very much up to the students. I think she’s also got some English coursework so need to remember to ask if she’s up to speed with it.

QueenMabby · 15/06/2024 12:01

I think our school takes all the marks for each subject and then grades them on a bell curve across the year group. At least for end of year exams as they're quite formal.

End of term general "grades" are a lot more variable between subject and between teachers.

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minisnowballs · 15/06/2024 10:32

@NotDonna - ours did that too with the Year 10 exams for DD1 - it just seemed to be down to the individual teacher - which didn't help anyone. Literally no idea how DD2's school is doing it- they keep sending us stuff about 'benchmarking' but it doesn't make much sense to us, especially since DD has changed schools, systems, exam boards (you name it) and never took SATs in either Year 2 or 6 so is utterly data free as far as we can see!

NotDonna · 15/06/2024 07:50

@Oblomov24 I’m not sure how they do it tbh. Schools have huge amounts of data and can probably say with a reasonable degree of certainty which children will achieve what. I’ve no clue if that data is used for end of year exams, or if they say last year a 5 in maths gcse was 50-60% so give a child achieving that percentage a 5. I think giving 8/9’s will be pretty certain, if they are looking at the data.

In DD1’s yr10 (6 yrs ago) some teachers would give a grade ‘if they sat the exam today’ , whilst others would forecast. Ot wasn’t always clear who was doing which.

Oblomov24 · 15/06/2024 07:26

My thoughts exactly Data!

DataColour · 14/06/2024 20:13

@Oblomov24 My DH who's a secondary school/6th form chemistry teacher says the grading system at this stage of their GCSEs is guess work mainly, hopefully an educated guess! May not even be consistent between subjects in the same school, let alone different schools.

Oblomov24 · 14/06/2024 17:46

Not Donna hope she is ok. I think schools do things very differently. I was out with my PNG last night at a cheese and wine bar, of the 5 of us, 4 had already got ye 10 exam results, whereas my ds2 doesn't sit them till next week. As I said I'm expecting 5's and 6's and encouraging him to push to achieve a 7 or even possibly an 8 in the real thing, but I'll let him off with a 5 or 6 in his Spanish and RE, because they are his least favourite. Many last night already had 7's, 8's and one 9.

But (re your dd aswell) actually one has to question, what does that 9 mean, so early, is it a realistic evaluation? How can a year 10 child really get a 9, when they are only 1 year into a 2 year syllabus and haven't covered a large proportion of the syllabus yet. All I mean is that maybe her school set more realistic papers and gave slightly lower grades, to show where the children were at atm. Did your other 2 dd's tell dd3 that similar had happened to them?

QueenMabby · 14/06/2024 13:59

@NotDonna - reaching potential is the best though. It's all we ever want for our children isn't it?? So glad your dd seems to have impeccable timing! 🤣

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NotDonna · 14/06/2024 13:29

My daughters have had end of year exams since yr7 so they’re used to revising for lots of exams at the same time and being in the main hall. So DD3 can’t use that as an excuse 🤣
But, from a girl who only 6 months ago hated school, didn’t see the point and although would do homework it was minimal effort, there’s been a total 180’ transformation. She’s suddenly very mature about it all, organised and incredibly keen to do her best and willing to put the effort in. No clue why this is but it’s fabulous timing. It means she’s more likely to reach her potential (won’t be 7, 8, 9) but that’s absolutely ok!

QueenMabby · 14/06/2024 10:57

Who doesn't love a Premier Inn breakfast??!

@DataColour - all the year did 2 maths papers with the FM cohort doing a different (harder) second paper. Dd found it really hard but said it was more like maths challenge word problems rather than "proper" maths! We'll wait and see. Years 7-9 get grades A star down to E with only year 10 getting the 9-1 grades. Last year dd got a full sweep of A stars but I know that won't translate to a slew of top grades this year!

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minisnowballs · 14/06/2024 10:34

Oh @NotDonna - certainly we had that in Year 10 with DD1 - the teachers do 'get real' and want to scare them - it is often about exam technique at this stage I think. We're dreading the return of DD2's maths exam. She says it was really hard and she revised the wrong bits. It's often the first time that they're faced with them all at once as well, and learning to prioritise. Hope she feels better soon and her siblings are helpful.

@QueenMabby I suspect your DD has done very well, but I understand the angst - the rumours don't help do they.

DD2's concert was excellent last night - it is my favourite one which has the 'fun' ensembles in it, not just the ones on a pre-professional track, which takes the pressure off massively. She was positively glowing afterwards - and we got to take her away with us last night and do the school run from the local Premier Inn after a huge breakfast. She was pretty pleased with that!

DataColour · 14/06/2024 10:12

@NotDonna sorry that your DD is disappointed with her grades. I don't think it's an indication of much really, there is lot of time for improvement, hope she remains positive, although she must feel like it's the end of the world right now! Glad she's got her sisters for comfort.

@QueenMabby DS is doing FM too but haven't had any exams in it this year. It would have been interesting to know how he is doing in it.
Your DD sounds amazing! DS is also an early riser, even at the weekends, but he just goes on his Xbox!

@minisnowballs Oohh West Side Story! That's great! Hope her concert went well last night.

QueenMabby · 14/06/2024 09:53

Oh bless her. It's tough at the start of gcse years when school suddenly start getting "real" on grades/marking and there's the inevitable drop. There's still plenty of time for the grades to come up as they progress through the content and get more practised at answering exam questions.

Good that she has her siblings around to reassure her. There's already a rumour going round DD's year that some people got a "U" in maths and that the year group average for biology was just under 50% so I'm sure your dd is not the only one to see grades dip at this stage.

Dd gets her grades today too. Apparently FM grades are low and about two grades lower than the main maths grades. Am braced for the fallout!

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NotDonna · 14/06/2024 07:26

DD3 finished end of years now and beginning to get results. No 7/8/9’s here sadly. She did worse in maths than last year and cried bless her. It’s disappointing as she’s been studying so hard. One question was an equation plus another equation but on her paper the plus was faded and looked like a minus so lost 4 points there (apparently). I’m hoping the poor results don’t make her despondent and think ‘what’s the point’. She was quite down about it last night. Both her big sisters are home for summer & were really encouraging so I’m hoping she can keep going.

Oblomov24 · 13/06/2024 13:01

Wow, everyone is so busy! Thanks for all the suggestions of which apps etc your dc like, this is very helpful to me.

QueenMabby · 13/06/2024 11:24

@DataColour - well done on your DS's cricketing achievements - sounds like he had a great game! Hope he's not suffering too badly. Best of luck for him for his exams today.

@minisnowballs - West Side Story is an epic one to do. Fingers crossed for your DD's audition. I Feel Pretty is one of DD's grade 4 singing pieces for her exam next week - hopefully that means both are fated to do well!

Dd has a Latin test today on her set text and is also doing the Junior Physics Challenge at lunchtime.

@DataColour - dd has always been an early riser (even now she's usually awake and up before 7 - often even at the weekends and during the holidays!) so it makes sense for us to schedule in stuff before school. She doesn't do a lot of competitive sport which always takes up so much time so there's that. Ballet and tap are an hour and a half a week with no extras unless around exams or show time and her netball is an hour and a half with a match only every couple of Sundays as there's a large group and she doesn't get selected every week.

She does always need to be "doing" though. She finds school holidays stressful as she doesn't like not being productive. We often have to sort her out a project to do or a general routine for every day so she feels she's achieved something - she can't relax otherwise. I think she's inherited this from my mum. It's exhausting!

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minisnowballs · 13/06/2024 10:01

@DataColour Ow. good luck to him - hope the arm holds up! DD1 is doing her A-Level mocks at the moment and keeps injuring herself doing aerial dance (surprisingly hard on the arm muscles) and then complaining of the pain.

The musical is West Side Story - amazing, of course, but I honestly think she'll be lucky to get chorus as it's a seriously talented bunch of kids. They asked in the audition if she can do an American accent - she said no, but she can do a Puerto Rican one as we used to live in Mexico - but she also thinks that isn't really appropriate (and i'm not sure anymore - it certainly wouldn't be here in London but it's a very different place).

Not sure DD is doing that much work in the evening @QueenMabby - and she has a concert tonight we're going down for so certainly none today. Think there may be some consolidation to be done over her long summer hol while we're all still working.

DataColour · 13/06/2024 09:53

@minisnowballs that's a great score for science! I hope she gets the part she wants in the musical. What's the musical?

@QueenMabby your DD sounds so busy! How does she have the energy?! My two would never contemplate doing anything before school. Great that your DD is so motivated. Only thing my DS would be ok doing in the morning is 5 mins of extra music practise just before his exams and I thought that was pretty good!

DS has got a geography exam and an English exam today. He's tired and achy as he injured his arm on Tuesday playing cricket, he did some amazing bowling and he dived to catch the ball (successfully!) and ended up with a grazed elbow on the right arm, so after a day of writing in school yesterday it's even more painful today. So, Geography and English exams are probably the last subjects he wants to have exams in today because of all the writing!

QueenMabby · 13/06/2024 09:51

I bet she has a lot of catching up to do in the evenings @minisnowballs - I suppose that's easier to do at least being a boarder!

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minisnowballs · 13/06/2024 08:20

Still really impressive @QueenMabby - she must be super organised - whatever she does in future she'll fly!

Just heard from DD2 - she's rehearsing all day today - tomorrow she's helping with the interview process for new music tutor on her main instrument. When does she actually go to school?

QueenMabby · 12/06/2024 16:16

To be fair all of her music lessons and two of her ensembles are before school which helps massively. She doesn't practice her instruments as much as she should at the moment and her ballet and tap lessons are "fun" ones rather than anything serious - although she's just started pre-pointe which is another half an hour a week!

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minisnowballs · 12/06/2024 15:59

@QueenMabby so glad it isn't just us. I made her go for 'secondary part' though I don't think she'd be getting a main part in a school full of singing specialists anyway- really don't want it taking up too much time. Ballet as well? How on EARTH does your daughter fit it all in - we certainly don't have any of that.

QueenMabby · 12/06/2024 15:26

That's a great score @minisnowballs - she should be well-chuffed with that.

Dd will also be auditioning for our school's big musical come the autumn. She was devastated not to be able to do this years (Les Mis) as rehearsals clashed with her Greek class so I suspect nothing I say will stop her auditioning for next year! She also has her dance school's biannual dance show which although not until July next year will also include additional rehearsals/costume fittings etc.

She's thrilled at the moment as her g5 ballet syllabus includes a dance to the Prelude to Bach's first cello suite which is one of her current cello pieces!

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minisnowballs · 12/06/2024 13:44

@QueenMabby sounds like an honour! I'm not sure DD is really ever in the classroom at the moment, but that's her own choice, and ours for letting her go to specialist school.

Yesterday she auditioned for the school musical, which is next year. I'm not that delighted about this, but pretty sure that if she wasn't acting in it she'd be playing, so either way won't be in lessons while rehearsals are going on. The old school didn't allow Year 11s to do any extra-curriculars at all in school, so this is a huge headshift for us as a family. She has to ask her head of department for music whether she can audition for things but no-one seeks permission from her parents!

First lot of exam results back from last week - 9/8 for combined science. She's reasonably pleased (not elated)- she must have absolutely smashed physics as she knows her biology score was woeful. Fingers crossed for the rest.

QueenMabby · 11/06/2024 17:43

@DataColour - maybe if HoY isn't an option then perhaps there's an Assistant Head or Deputy in charge of academics? That might be an option. Be squeaky!

Dd terrified last week to be asked to stay behind in English - she thought she was going to be told she'd done really badly in her English exam - but actually she's been asked to be an anti-bullying ambassador for the school! Which is lovely, but is another full day out of school for the training and accreditation in what is proving to be a very busy last few weeks of term.

She'll have most of the day after out of school too as the choir is going to sing evensong at a cathedral in a city about an hour away

All lots of good opportunities but it's more time away from the classroom that is ideal.

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