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When did leaving primary school become such a big thing?

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usernother · 22/07/2023 06:49

I left my primary school in the early 1970's. We had no leavers disco, no special assembly, no graduation ceremonies, no transition days to new high school, nothing. I can't remember my Mum mentioning anything about it. Other than getting my uniform and things that were needed for high school, that's all the input my parents had. Now I can see my SM awash with parents saying how emotional they are about their children leaving primary, one said she cried all the way to the leavers assembly and all the way through it. When did it change to being such a big thing?

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howdoipullmyselftogether · 22/07/2023 13:31

@Waitwhat23 I think it was an already archaic reference to the Qually exam - qualifying exam, or 11 plus. No longer around in my day (but it is in our part of England even now). But I love it as a word and still gives a glow of the excitement of the Qually Dance.

Tinybrother · 22/07/2023 13:03

When did sneering at current parents become such a big thing? Should I blame the parents of the OP’s generation for raising such sneery people? Or was it ever thus and I will be sneering at my children’s parenting?

Goldbar · 22/07/2023 11:02

It's always been a pretty big deal for the kids themselves, hasn't it?

The majority of primary schools in this country are warm, nurturing, child-centred places where lots of children feel happy, safe, listened to, supported and valued

Secondary schools... not so much. Especially with the current craze for running schools along military lines and giving detentions for forgetting pencils. Many aren't very nurturing at all.

It's nice for the children that there is increased recognition of the transition and that it can be difficult.

ChickenMacaroni · 22/07/2023 10:59

If OP turned 12 in September 1974 - leaving primary in the August aged 11 - and their DC turned 12 in September 2019, they had their child aged 45, which is hardly shocking.

Tinybrother · 22/07/2023 10:46

sorrynotathome · 22/07/2023 09:01

If you left primary in 1974 that makes you around 60. How do you have a child that left primary 4 years ago?

Because it’s possible for women to have babies in their mid-40s

Waitwhat23 · 22/07/2023 10:44

howdoipullmyselftogether · 22/07/2023 08:38

I left primary in 1980 in Glasgow. We had a "Qually Dance" which was even a thing back in the 1930s when my mum was at school (and we'd learnt and practised the dances - it was a ceilidh style event with food). People got asked to go with each other, we dressed up, got new outfits. It was a big deal.

We had a prize giving every year anyway so that was a bit special for all the P7s. Our school didn't have duxes - a few still did - but in my mum's day that was a common thing, someone effectively 'crowned' top of the school who would give a speech. My friend was dux of her school. There was shirt signing.

There was a transition day for the local secondary.

My kids had similar 5-10 years ago in England.

Ah, the Qually. I'm not sure it's called that anymore as I mentioned it to a much younger colleague and she looked baffled.

The Schools around here pipe the kids out which I think is nice and not too over the top.

WhatNoRaisins · 22/07/2023 10:38

Holibobbbs · 22/07/2023 09:19

I think you’ve really hit the nail on the head here! I hadn’t thought about that before but you’re right.

I was reading a thread on here the other day where a posters child was going to be starting at the secondary school she had a bad time at. Didn't get the chance to comment but felt really awful reading that post. I chose to move 200 miles away from where I grew up largely because of how traumatised secondary school left me.

That said I do think parents have a responsibility to at least try to put on a good face for their kids. They could have a completely different experience and don't need our baggage.

GeorgeSpeaks · 22/07/2023 10:36

@Scarydinosaurs I think for some kids it's all too much. My DS has found this last few weeks really hard and was dreading his last day. This morning, now it's all over, he's woken up much more cheerful! I think the transition events need toning down a bit.

FrivolousTreeDuck · 22/07/2023 10:24

Left in 85. We had a day trip to the secondary school. No party, assembly or merchandise.

Mrsjayy · 22/07/2023 10:03

usernother · 22/07/2023 06:49

I left my primary school in the early 1970's. We had no leavers disco, no special assembly, no graduation ceremonies, no transition days to new high school, nothing. I can't remember my Mum mentioning anything about it. Other than getting my uniform and things that were needed for high school, that's all the input my parents had. Now I can see my SM awash with parents saying how emotional they are about their children leaving primary, one said she cried all the way to the leavers assembly and all the way through it. When did it change to being such a big thing?

My Dd left primary in the early 00s and they had a leavers do . I left primary in 79 we had a disco for the primary 7s last week of term so that's also a lesser leavers party. I don't think it's unusual to mark leaving primary school.

JassyRadlett · 22/07/2023 09:58

My eldest finished yesterday. They had their play and party last week, this week they had a church service (CofE school) where they'd written poems and shared memories about their time at the school, and had an end of term assembly where they were clapped/high fives out by the younger kids. No 'graduation' though a group of parents did organise and fundraise for a yearbook. All pretty lovely. I didn't see any big
outpourings of emotion from any parents, possibly a sniffle or two looking at the pictures of them in reception in the slideshow at the church service.

I wonder if it feels different to the kids depending on whether they'll mostly be going to the same secondary or not? We're pretty urban and our kids are going on to 14 different secondaries out of two forms so there's a definite sense of an ending for this particular group of kids. They're a lovely year and are pretty close, so I can see how it's different for them than for eg my nephew's more rural primary where the vast majority of the kids will be going to the same secondary.

nobodysdaughternow · 22/07/2023 09:57

It's too much! Picking up ds9 yesterday, I walked past a stream of sobbing girls, who were distraught at leaving.

When my eldest ds went through it, it almost put him off school for good. He is socially anxious and has ASD. He also has T1 Diabetes, hypothyroidism and a severely disabled brother.

Leaving primary school wasn't a big event in his life.

TheOldLadyOfThreadneedleStreet · 22/07/2023 09:49

I left primary in 1978. The occasion was not marked in any way, other than my teacher wishing us good luck! I did have a trip to look around secondary which lasted a few hours, I remember seeing the science labs, but we were back at primary by lunchtime. Teachers did not get presents! I think all the attention on leaving makes the kids nowadays more worried and anxious than needed. There was nothing in 1983 or 1985 when I left secondary or sixth form either!

stayclosetoyourself · 22/07/2023 09:49

I think it's good to have taster then transition days for choices/ orientation and some sort of celebration. Mine had an assembly but parents didn't go, they all signed shirts. They had orientation days.
Everything is over celebrated now compared to the past and everything is on Facebook. Pros and cons and wouldn't be surprised if it changes in the future again. I'd have hated my mum putting some big post or pictures up if there had been SM back in the 70s - nightmare! 😀

fgfhds · 22/07/2023 09:48

Well yeah if you compare the 70s to now there is loads we do now that you didn't do back then, from bigger halloweens, bigger weddings, bigger birthdays, and I'm sure you did more in the 70s than they did in the 1920s, and there'll be new things in the 2070s. It's just life, if you don't like something, you don't have to engage with it, but life won't always been the same, it is changing all the time.

YukoandHiro · 22/07/2023 09:46

SpiralAgain · 22/07/2023 06:57

Everything seems OTT these days... The cards and gifts for teachers was never a thing when I was at school. Same with Christmas Eve boxes, baby showers (sorry)... I don't know how people afford it tbh, especially with the cost of living! yep, I am great fun at parties

Fair enough about Xmas eve boxes but we definitely bought our teacher presents in the 80s and 90s

YukoandHiro · 22/07/2023 09:45

Didn't do shirt signing til secondary tho

Willmafrockfit · 22/07/2023 09:45

a prom for dd, born in 1997
i was aghast - i complained
ds, born in 1994 had no such thing

YukoandHiro · 22/07/2023 09:45

We had a leaver's assembly with a song I still remember and still makes me cry! I sang it as a lullaby to my babies. This was in the 80s.

We also had a leaving disco - but it was a small primary so all the juniors (year 3+) came.

WimbyAce · 22/07/2023 09:44

SusanVance · 22/07/2023 09:41

We had my daughter's leaving assembly yesterday. It was lovely and clearly a lot of thought had gone into it, but my god, the emotion and the smaltz. Both their teacher and the Head were choking up when they were talking about them (they've taught us as much as we've taught them etc) and struggled to get their words out, which I think was inappropriate and unprofessional.

Lol this is hilarious! We have middle schools here so our primary ends at Y4 and they have a leavers assembly and I believe it is similar, emotional songs etc. Apparently all the kids were crying. The head also wrote a super long message, while it was nice I think it was a bit much.

LunaMay · 22/07/2023 09:44

30 years ago for me, we definitely had transition days, a graduation ceremony/disco and i think maybe a special assembly during school hours as well.
I dont recall doing gifts for the teachers back then but my youngest sister always has.

SusanVance · 22/07/2023 09:41

We had my daughter's leaving assembly yesterday. It was lovely and clearly a lot of thought had gone into it, but my god, the emotion and the smaltz. Both their teacher and the Head were choking up when they were talking about them (they've taught us as much as we've taught them etc) and struggled to get their words out, which I think was inappropriate and unprofessional.

MsRead · 22/07/2023 09:40

Late 1980’s and we had open evenings for the secondary schools, a taster morning an assembly and a residential trip either to France or Derbyshire in the last half term of y6. There may have been a disco?

We also had a staggered start at our secondary, we started the day before, I think. But it was fairly low key, just an accepted part of growing up.

I do feel strongly that parental attitudes sometimes unnecessarily create anxiety in youngsters. I notice that the kids coming through to start secondary need far more emotional support, one parent actually asked me for a daily phone call for the first half term ( No diagnosed SEN)! Even before the lockdowns we were spending an inordinate amount of time fielding anxious Y6 parental requests/ queries and demands. Despite the various open evenings/ visits/ settling in meetings and separate meetings for students who have SEN. Plus we have excellent data/handover from the primaries which is acted upon.

The best thing parents can do for their children is keep their anxieties to themselves, reassure their kids that ‘bogwashing’ or other revolting/ invented folklore punishments do not happen. Acknowledge the feeling of nerves, but breezily support this new more independent phase of their lives and education.

Tiredalwaystired · 22/07/2023 09:39

sorrynotathome · 22/07/2023 09:01

If you left primary in 1974 that makes you around 60. How do you have a child that left primary 4 years ago?

Step child? Adopted?

WimbyAce · 22/07/2023 09:38

I can't remember having anything until we finished A levels and we had an evening party. Don't think there was anything even for GCSEs. When I finished Y9 there was a special assembly but that was only because the school was actually closing forever so was a special case.