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Y7- 2023/24 support thread

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 20/07/2023 20:50

Hi, just dropping in a thread for those of us who have kids starting secondary this coming September. There was a lovely thread going last year and they are carrying it on into Year 8, so here is a place for us the year behind.

How is everyone feeling as they finish Primary and prepare for Secondary?

Dd is moving from a single form entry "family feel" type cosy Primary into a large 8 form entry, multiple building secondary. She's going alone, her primary class are really split up across multiple secondaries.

The transition days helped, and she is excited,but has been really sad this weke saying her goodbyes

Is everyone prepped for uniform etc?

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Sweetpea84 · 22/09/2023 14:38

All going ok here apart from the tiredness. Im worried about Snapchat and don’t know whether I’m being unreasonable. My dd is in a group chat with a load of other children in her year and I’ve just got a feeling it’s going to be trouble but at the same time she is hardy and sticks up for herself. Should I tell her to remove herself?

Unsuredad123 · 22/09/2023 14:26

@Busornobus67 I gave up with trying to get DD1 to do the extras in sparx, hard enough to get her to do the compulsory stuff

Busornobus67 · 22/09/2023 14:05

Yes dd was saying the older kids on the coach sore and were hitting each other

an hour to write 5 sentences for eng.
down to 1 homework outstanding.

And refusing to do the extra on sparx just wanting to do compulsory.

ElvenDreamer · 22/09/2023 12:56

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz the buses are hard, even now my yr 8 gets annoyed and upset with behaviour on buses but she has got better at dealing with it, I remember it did take a while though .
DS is muddling through, homework is an issue as he doesn't seem to write it down or register its existence so that's been interesting, lots of scouring Teams each evening!

Yoyo2021 · 22/09/2023 12:32

Very tired DS this morning but was happy to go with a fan day of art, computers etc

Still walking around chatting to people no group mostly on own but I'm sure he will get there as he settles. Ds said mum I love it but it's hard ☹️

Yes, moved up with some from his primary school but not a great group of characters so glad he hasn't gone with them at break and lunch.

This weekend he will go again to his new basketball club and then thats it bar one piece of home work.

He's smarted seeing some friends from mixed lessons and says he says hi and from basketball hopefully at some point, he will get asked to hang around at lunch.

Il give it time x

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 22/09/2023 11:40

twistyizzy · 22/09/2023 09:40

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz I've heard the same from friends whose DC go to the local comp. Sadly school say because it happens outside of school they can't sanction any behaviour 🙄

I totally get it - hard enough managing 1200 teens behaviour in a building 9-4, to then have to manage what happens on the buses too. And the drivers aren't responsible for anything other than safely driving the route home.

I think she just needs time to toughen up to it. I'm not beyond thinking she could end up being one of those Year 9s powehousing around the bus telling the little ones where they can't sit - though of course I'd hope she doesn't!. So I'm trying to just reassure her that she'll get used to it.

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HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 22/09/2023 11:09

DS has been away for 2 nights on PGL so looking forward to seeing him (and the washing mountain!)
He starts rowing club tomorrow which is exciting! He’s also applied to join the Business Society and he and his friend are going to be business partners❤️
His homework this weekend is French and Maths only so should be ok.
We haven’t started public transport yet (it would be train) so that’s the next challenge.
Happy weekend all

twistyizzy · 22/09/2023 10:52

@Walkingbkwrm last weekend spent snuggling on sofa and binge watching films did DD a lot of good. They need to switch their brains off and just chill I think.

Walkingbkwrm · 22/09/2023 10:49

Sorry other people’s DC have been having rubbish weeks too. Here we have all been down with colds - just a back to school autumn thing - DS1 and I have mostly coped (though you don’t want to see my housework backlog and there has been lots of freezer food) but DS2 was pretty shattered before the cold and is now on his knees. A weekend spent mostly on the sofa watching films/napping may need to happen (despite the homework). Plus his old bully from primary is causing issues again (thought he was safely in another class but not for pe apparently). Still resisting joining clubs and/or making friends with anyone new but I had a meeting with his form tutor where I explained that him seeming totally fine was mostly a front and he said he’d keep an eye out so 🤞.

Unsuredad123 · 22/09/2023 10:36

Are yr 7 meant to know cube numbers on the same way they might know squared numbers? DD2 had her first maths homework and it was things like tick the squared/cubed numbers from this list or what is the square/cube route of a number.

I wasn't sure if they were expected to know this at the start so I showed dd how to work it out on the calculator. After a few she felt she was cheating so she started with a bit of manual calculations and trial and error as to which numbers it could be.

I can't remember ever just knowing cube numbers so assume I would have just used the calculator when I was at school.

twistyizzy · 22/09/2023 09:40

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz I've heard the same from friends whose DC go to the local comp. Sadly school say because it happens outside of school they can't sanction any behaviour 🙄

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 22/09/2023 09:26

Well, dd appears to have developed a phobia to the scholars bus. Which is a pita as it collects and drops on our street and its basically the only public transport option for that school. On the way there is just that its really packed (single decker but used to be a double decker). Way home - utter wildness. Seriously ridiculous behaviour. She's so overwhelmed by it.

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gingeristhenewblack43 · 20/09/2023 23:09

@Itslosenotloose what a lovely caring girl your DD sounds!

lovepets · 20/09/2023 21:42

@twistyizzy
My dgs is paranoid about getting his homework done the night he gets it. He's quite slow and methodical, so it all takes time. I feel so sorry for them all; I don't remember there being this such stress when I went to high school, though I know it was a long while ago

Busornobus67 · 20/09/2023 20:24

We're just getting weekly maths, eng and lang. Should have science too but not seen any yet.
Maths longest maybe 30mins.
Lang is just some spellings.
I think she did midys today. She said spelling and comprehension on computer. Which she finish first.. Doesnt really sound like IT lesson though. And they had school photos and told them they wont have another for 3yrs!
Pe tomorrow hope it doesnt tip it down

twistyizzy · 20/09/2023 20:15

@lovepets homework until 10pm? That's crazy at this age! DDs school are giving around 2 x 20-30 mind per night and that's hard enough. I think DD would have a meltdown at doing homework until 10pm

lovepets · 20/09/2023 20:13

My dgs had a much better day, but was doing homework till 10pm last night, and has texted me and says he has homework tonight.
He's coming to stay on the weekend, so I'm hoping to get a bit more insight into how he's feeling.
Fortunately, he has a friend in another class who he's known all his life, and they meet up break and lunchtimes, and travel to and from school together, so that's a massive relief, as he hasn't always found friendships easy.
Hope everyone's dcs are slowly getting used to it; it really is such a life-changing transition for some children

twistyizzy · 20/09/2023 20:00

@Itslosenotloose she sounds like a lovely, caring child and I'm pleased she's had a better day. I don't think there's any harm in them regressing at home a bit, I'm encouraging DD to snuggle up with her soft toys at the end of the day, they need the comfort after spending the day putting on a show of maturity.

Itslosenotloose · 20/09/2023 19:55

@twistyizzy

She was nervous this morning and couldn’t eat breakfast however today was a better day for her. She told me she confided in a teacher at school she was feeling lonely 😢. The teacher gave her some strategies and there’s a hub at lunchtime you can go too if you feel lonely. I think just telling a teacher and having a chat made her feel better. I’m so proud of the way she opens up to me and to staff.

She is very tired overall but she has made a friend (and got her phone number) which seems to have cheered her up no end. Yesterday I put her to bed at 8pm (and she was snoring by 8:07pm). It’s a 9 bedtime tonight but I’ve told her it will be the odd earlier bed time if I feel like she needs it. She’s currently downstairs cuddling her fave teddy bear which I know sounds really babyish but paradoxically she can also be very mature for her age. She said there’s a girl in her year who lives in a children’s home and she would love to be her friend and that she knows she has a lot in her own life to be thankful for.

She then said, anyway mum how was YOUR day?

how is your DC? Hope they had a better day?

Marisquita · 20/09/2023 18:47

Going pretty smoothly here on most fronts - happy with friendships, teachers clubs, interesting stuff to learn. But soooo tired, even though homework hasn’t really started yet in earnest. It’s a much longer day than before. I am sure they get used to it eventually.

twistyizzy · 20/09/2023 18:34

How are everyone's DC doing this week?
@Itslosenotloose @lovepets I hope today has been slightly easier/better

JassyRadlett · 20/09/2023 09:44

Oh @lovepets and @Itslosenotloose I'm so sorry both yours are getting those pressures in different ways! It's such a brutal step up for them - I really wish we had a middle school system here.

It has been pretty plain sailing so far for us and the secondary seems to be really nurturing and putting huge efforts into the transition and being understanding about stuff. We haven't had any real hiccups except for pointing out to DS when he needs to READ THE WHOLE HOMEWORK QUESTION but even so he is so so tired and is clearly finding it quite stressful. Most of the time he's very blasé, says it's all going well, etc but he's on a hair trigger temper and is overreacting to very minor things.

lovepets · 20/09/2023 08:42

Itslosenotloose · 20/09/2023 08:36

@lovepets

gosh how sad for him 😢. I really, really hope he feels better soon. My DD is close to tears every single day. She can’t really pin point why but she is just really struggling with the demands. I have a very academic son in year 9 and one of the teachers said to her yesterday “I wonder if you’re going to be as clever as your brother”. I would never compare them like that. (She definitely isn’t as academic as him but has other qualities but it played on her mind) It’s all just a lot for them and I work in a secondary school. I’m 35 and they’ve changed so much even since “my day”.

I can't believe teachers still make comparisons!! I've got three children, eldest (dgs dad), quiet in school, bit geeky, elder daughter, loud, confident, very intelligent, younger daughter, quiet. All three had comparisons made with their siblings, and it was really hurtful and damaging.
I really would have thought that with all the social and psychological input the teachers must have nowadays, that they would be taught not to compare! I'm so sorry your daughter is experiencing this.

Itslosenotloose · 20/09/2023 08:36

@lovepets

gosh how sad for him 😢. I really, really hope he feels better soon. My DD is close to tears every single day. She can’t really pin point why but she is just really struggling with the demands. I have a very academic son in year 9 and one of the teachers said to her yesterday “I wonder if you’re going to be as clever as your brother”. I would never compare them like that. (She definitely isn’t as academic as him but has other qualities but it played on her mind) It’s all just a lot for them and I work in a secondary school. I’m 35 and they’ve changed so much even since “my day”.

lovepets · 20/09/2023 08:19

My dgs locked himself in the bathroom yesterday morning, and cried so much he couldn't speak. A lot of it was to do with the fact that he couldn't get his maths homework to download. (When did it all become so technical? I know it probably makes life easier, but there seem to be so many teething problems!) My ddil managed to get him out in time to get him to school, then came home and rang the yr 7 pastoral lead.
She took him out of class and had a chat to him. He seemed better after school, but normally he rings me in the evening, and he didn't last night. I just got a sad little text this morning, apologising for not ringing me because of homework.
I just want to wrap him up in cotton wool and homeschool him!! My son struggled with bullying, and hated secondary school, but he's trying to be really positive about it with my dgs. It just seems to have got so much more complicated, and there are so many reasons why things can go wrong. (I'm only 57; it's not like I'm ancient).
I'm sending good wishes to all your children who are struggling; I wish there were more alternatives for them.

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