Camden School for Girls - HELP!

Why??

I’m going to show this thread to the governors and head.

How does this help on the specific school your DD is attending though?

"prospect of being part of a community of people fighting to keep the school afloat"

I wonder what can the community of people do about it?

@CSGCSG "There’s a bit of Pulp, Common People vibe about your post"

I do agree with this. Fighting to keep the school afloat made me laugh a little.

I worked at Brecknock some moons ago, and we always sent tons of girls to CSG, very few were the wealthy ones. Those tend to come from the preps and primaries further north.

I hope your daughter has a lovely time.

I agree what may seem like cliques could just be friendship groups. A lot of girls one en masse from local primary schools: Hawley, KT, Brecknock and Torriano.

Are you only interested in single sec education? Beacon High is mixed but very near and could probably do with much more fighting to keep the school afloat than CSG. Would that interest you? That would be keeping it really real.

My daughter is lovely and I’d be incredibly upset to think she was being used as a social experiment to make rich parents feel better. There’s a bit of Pulp, Common People vibe about your post. But maybe English isn’t your first language and I lost something in translation.

Oh right, so you've accepted the place? Y6 induction is always cliquey, the girls kids to stick with who they already know.

I'm so confused OP. Was this for an in year place? If it's for a Y7 place in sept how did your DD already meet her class? Those don't get decided till Sept

If you can’t understand why referring to young girls as “estate girls” is offensive, then I’m afraid I can’t help you. But don’t worry - I’m sure you can do your best to avoid your DC mixing with them.

Woah woah @Verite1 ! Dehumanising! You think to live on the estate = not possessing human qualities? People who want to get annoyed will always find plenty of things to get annoyed about.

It is dehumanising language. You may not have intended it that way, and I understand that things can be translated poorly of English is not your first language. But in my view (and clearly others) it is.

@Foxesandsquirrels thank you!

@Frogusha Idk I think it's a bit silly to get offended at that wording. When you grow up on an estate that's what you call it and so do your friends. You ask what estate are you from or I live on X estate. Maybe saying girls from estates is better but that's just semantics. The townhouse girls and girls from local estates are pretty much how CSG is split. Yes lots are in social housing that's a flat inside a home but that's not the point. It's just semantics and it seems you have to walk on eggshells when describing the poorer girls. It's a free for all for the rich ones.

@Verite1 didn’t mean it in derogatory way. English isn’t my first language, I come from a country with no class system.
I meant, there is an estate surrounding the school. There are girls who live on the estate. I guess you may be more eloquent than me so please define a name for a group of girls that come from a nearby estate 🙄
according to my acquaintance those girls stick together, form a large friendship group between themselves and are quite hostile to the girls who don’t come from that same estate.

Thank you @Verite1 . I must be feeling very thin skinned at the moment as I found that post very upsetting.

Can I also say I was appalled by the use of the expression “estate girls”. Such awful, dismissive snobbery.

These kids will be getting £20 daily, easily.

Yes, maybe they are all reasons. It’s sad and I don’t know why I wasn’t expecting it. I suppose because it never occurred to me that children that age had disposable income! I assumed they’d share a bag of crisps in the park. I’m naive!

In primary school kids don't tend to organise their own entertainment. Once they're teens they do. A girl on FSM isn't going to be able to go to Starbucks and Urban Outfitters every day after school or on weekends, or talk about her favourite dish in wasabi or itsu and get it as an after school snack. That's the case in all schools though and imo the difference is stark in CSG because of how small it is, there's no uniform and because the difference in lifestyles the girls have is very big. There's little space for a middle to buff it out.

Actually yes, I do think it should be good. But at lot of the same kids where at her state school. They mixed at prinary but not at secondary. And that’s the issue, the cliques. Is that teens, or what is the reason? I don’t know. But the pp made it sound as if of course these children couldn’t possibly mix.

“My DD noticed social class for the first time at CSG. Not poor kids and rich kids but wc/Mc/uc and the English class system"

Seems to me a proper social diverse education environment for the mordern adolescent life. You won't get that in those social bubbles such as London Indies (including Queens) and selective grammars. Obviously, some parents like it and some others avoid it at a lot of cost.