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If in London and you got a place at your preferred school via the waiting list, how far down were you and how long did you have to wait for your place?

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CloudsOverHead · 18/04/2023 11:13

We're 40+ on the waiting list for our preferred school (250 intake) but before any second round offers were made. I was told by the admissions people that there was a lot of movement to come (in London so always lots moving in/out/going private) but don't know whether to hold hopes high or assume it's never going to happen.

In previous years, I know people who were in the 60s on the list (same school) who got their place in early April but others who only moved from 50ish to 30ish before giving up in August.

Really interested to hear other experiences please!

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SleepyRooster · 18/08/2023 10:14

Still no news for us either. I'm coming around to the idea she'll have to do at least Sept at the 2nd choice school. What's annoying is I can tell that's compromising our approach to her starting secondary. It would have been better to forget about #1 completely...

Turquoiseturtle3 · 18/08/2023 08:45

Really sorry :-(. Where are you now in the list?

At least you haven’t moved 6 places backwards like me. Would you consider moving once term has started as that is bound to prompt some movement? Have you asked the council how many offers there usually are once term has started and until the end of September?

CloudsOverHead · 18/08/2023 07:34

I cracked and called. No movement at all in a month 😭

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Turquoiseturtle3 · 12/08/2023 22:33

They’d only come off if they were reapplying for a different school in a different area. If they’ve moved locally but outside of the catchment, I doubt they would notify anyone despite it being fraud! It’s so frustrating. If they do notify the council, their place would be withdrawn and they’d go back into the queue if they wanted a place.

CloudsOverHead · 12/08/2023 21:51

Turquoiseturtle3 · 12/08/2023 17:12

I heard back from the council again on Friday. We have moved back again to 10th place. A few weeks ago we were 3rd. Apparently new applications, the implication being people have moved into the area. But not out. Sigh.

Oh no!!

I can’t actually work out what the mechanism would be for anyone moving out of area to come off waiting lists? Maybe they will all just get skipped over when there are places available?

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Turquoiseturtle3 · 12/08/2023 17:12

I heard back from the council again on Friday. We have moved back again to 10th place. A few weeks ago we were 3rd. Apparently new applications, the implication being people have moved into the area. But not out. Sigh.

Turquoiseturtle3 · 07/08/2023 22:22

SleepyRooster · 07/08/2023 18:38

It's August and DC is #9 on the WL for our top choice school, a SW London grammar. WL is moving at a historic slow pace. How much truth is there to the idea that a bunch of kids simply won't show up in September?? In agonies of hope here..

Fingers crossed for you!! Tiffin boys has gone to around 26 places for the last few years, by the end of august. This year they are already on 36 so hopefully there will be some more movement for you!!

SleepyRooster · 07/08/2023 21:31

Thank you, @NeverDropYourMooncup . I didn't think about that holiday aspect. Places are allocated by the borough, not the school, but there must be some knock-on.

usernother · 07/08/2023 19:02

If you have a child on a waiting list you are waiting for a child who has a place to turn down the place. This will then give the child at the top of the waiting list a place at the school. BUT, if there were any children who got a place from Appeal, this will have taken the school over their number. This means that no one from the waiting list will get a place until the numbers are back down to one below the published admission number. Sometimes, children don't turn up in September. It depends on the area really. More likely in transient areas.
There is no way of knowing how likely anyone is to get a place.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/08/2023 18:55

SleepyRooster · 07/08/2023 18:38

It's August and DC is #9 on the WL for our top choice school, a SW London grammar. WL is moving at a historic slow pace. How much truth is there to the idea that a bunch of kids simply won't show up in September?? In agonies of hope here..

It always happens. I suppose there's always a first time where nobody has moved house, nobody has gone private, nobody has decided to EHE, nobody has changed their mind and gone with another school they were on the waiting list for, but why would it be happening for the first time this year above all others? Even during lockdown, people were still failing to arrive on the first day when it was far less likely they would be moving house than in normal years or were still holding their state places when they knew their child would be going to private because they'd already paid the fees.

Don't forget that admissions staff are also on the only two weeks of the school year where they are likely able to take annual leave uninterrupted (many do data/exams so will be dealing with that soon, so this is pretty much the only time they have to take a break). Slow is normal for July/August, completely expected early August.

SleepyRooster · 07/08/2023 18:38

It's August and DC is #9 on the WL for our top choice school, a SW London grammar. WL is moving at a historic slow pace. How much truth is there to the idea that a bunch of kids simply won't show up in September?? In agonies of hope here..

Turquoiseturtle3 · 03/08/2023 21:09

AthenaPoster · 02/08/2023 20:37

Sorry if it came across badly when I was saying not to check over the summer. I was thinking it more in a “amazing things can happen and you’ll suddenly leap 20 places as people turn a spot down” way. I’m a raging hypocrite anyway as I obsessively checked our online system, the convenience was good but also addictive.

it was about this time that we got offered a place last year, I’d bought uniform too for similar reasons as you @CloudsOverHead, returning it was a joy.

This would be the dream!!! I really wish I had online access but probably for the best that I don’t 😂
I can’t even call which is annoying. The council say they can take 2 weeks to respond so it’s pot luck when the magic email pings in 🙄

Greenfingers1980 · 03/08/2023 10:08

@AthenaPoster your story gives me hope. I have also bought the uniform for the offered school but am keeping it in packaging with labels on until the night before term starts. Hoping I'll be in a position to return it before then!

CloudsOverHead · 03/08/2023 09:07

@AthenaPoster that's exactly why I wasn't planning to call for a few more weeks. Will be too disheartening if there hasn't been movement! Or we go backwards again 😩

Wish we had an online system! Would check it daily for sure 😆

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AthenaPoster · 02/08/2023 20:37

Sorry if it came across badly when I was saying not to check over the summer. I was thinking it more in a “amazing things can happen and you’ll suddenly leap 20 places as people turn a spot down” way. I’m a raging hypocrite anyway as I obsessively checked our online system, the convenience was good but also addictive.

it was about this time that we got offered a place last year, I’d bought uniform too for similar reasons as you @CloudsOverHead, returning it was a joy.

CloudsOverHead · 02/08/2023 19:16

Turquoiseturtle3 · 02/08/2023 17:59

Yes, I know what you mean. I think it’s fair enough to enquire if it will make you feel better or give you some peace of mind. We have to make decision on uniforms soon as well. Don’t let others make you feel bad about wanting to know x

I'll definitely call again near the end of the month. It’s the council not school so the office is open the whole time. I know plenty of people who called weekly over previous summers.

I decided to just buy all the uniform for the school we’ve got already but I’ve not cut off labels yet. Thought was more likely to get a place if the fates don’t believe we’re holding out 😉😆

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Turquoiseturtle3 · 02/08/2023 17:59

CloudsOverHead · 02/08/2023 16:46

@Turquoiseturtle3 I’m trying to resist calling again for a couple more weeks but the temptation is always there!

Yes, I know what you mean. I think it’s fair enough to enquire if it will make you feel better or give you some peace of mind. We have to make decision on uniforms soon as well. Don’t let others make you feel bad about wanting to know x

Turquoiseturtle3 · 02/08/2023 17:57

Fruits81 · 02/08/2023 17:44

@CloudsOverHead @Turquoiseturtle3 We still haven’t moved a place. I’m not holding out much hope now 😞 x

Fingers crossed for you. My friend was 13 on the list last year during the summer holidays and they were offered the day before term started. You never know.

Fruits81 · 02/08/2023 17:44

@CloudsOverHead @Turquoiseturtle3 We still haven’t moved a place. I’m not holding out much hope now 😞 x

Radiatorvalves · 02/08/2023 17:38

DC was second on the list. We were about 100m from the cut off. He didn’t get a place. This was in SW2 a few years ago.

AthenaPoster · 02/08/2023 17:35

Having done this last year, I really don't think there's much point calling now. There may still be movement but it could be quite dramatic. So while you're sad that you're only 15 or whatever, the 14 people in front of you don't want the place anymore.

They'll get in touch with you if a place appears and knowing where you are on the list won't change that. Try and put it out of your mind.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/08/2023 16:55

CloudsOverHead · 02/08/2023 16:46

@Turquoiseturtle3 I’m trying to resist calling again for a couple more weeks but the temptation is always there!

Give the Admissions staff (and your worry) a break. Most are actually taking a bit of leave until GCSE result days, when they'll be dealing with the 6th formers repeating years, incoming enrolments and dealing with the no shows/summer holiday leavers. Calling when the school is basically closed won't make you feel any better about it.

Turquoiseturtle3 · 02/08/2023 16:54

We are unable to call - so frustrating. We have to email and then wait up to 2 weeks for a response. Sometimes it’s within a few days but other times it’s over a week. How often is everyone asking? I wish ours was online like some councils

CloudsOverHead · 02/08/2023 16:46

@Turquoiseturtle3 I’m trying to resist calling again for a couple more weeks but the temptation is always there!

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Greenfingers1980 · 02/08/2023 16:10

Not London but on waiting list for a very oversubscribed school and having started at 37 on the waiting list back in March, we were 9 in the last week of the summer term. Hoping for a miracle at the start of September but also trying not to get carried away with hope. A difficult balance!

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