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Help! Doing really badly in AQA English Language GCSE

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filchards · 15/04/2023 14:56

7 weeks to put things right. Son is doing badly and is overwhelmed / discouraged / bewildered. Repeatedly failed by school. We now have a private tutor which I hope can make a difference but need to look at other ways for him to learn and practice skills. Paper 2 is particularly difficult - he's never learned how to do Question 5. He can't do any of it within the time limits. He has ADHD and has trouble focussing. The more stressed he is, the worse his focus. (He gets 25% extra time but it's not enough)

I have some official AQA books but could do with some short exercises to practice the necessary skills, so that he can do daily short bursts alongside the longer exercises. I feel this is the only way he can build up the skills he's missing.

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MrsHamlet · 18/05/2023 07:06

@filchards of course you are. But I have made suggestions which I know work for all kinds of students because I teach all kinds of students.
Finding a story to learn and regurgitate is not a good idea.

filchards · 18/05/2023 06:59

@onanotherday so very true.

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filchards · 18/05/2023 06:59

@MrsHamlet also it's not a game. It's my poor child's gateway to his future education. He has needs which have been overlooked by teachers and I'm DESPERATE to get him through this. But he is already overloaded. He's already failed, basically.

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MrsHamlet · 18/05/2023 06:58

@filchards not getting 40 marks is less of a problem than being disqualified.
I made some suggestions upthread.

onanotherday · 18/05/2023 06:57

I feel for you and ds. My DD is ASD & ADHD...very bright, well read and can debate......but just can not get GCSE English. She struggles with inference and nuance..so much so she won't attempt writing. There is no ND friendly English syllabus.

filchards · 18/05/2023 06:55

@MrsHamlet sitting for 45 mins and writing nothing is also dangerous!

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knackeredmumoftwo · 18/05/2023 06:50

HereBeFuckery · 17/05/2023 05:42

For Lang Paper 1 - the one with the picture that you posted (old man), he can pre prepare some 'scenes'. Get him to work with you on this:

Scene 1: an old man on a bench. What does he look like - describe his face, his hands, his clothes, his shoes. Use one simile, one metaphor and/or one form of personification. Now describe an expression on his face (sadness is easier than happiness!)

Scene 2: the old man sees a jogger running past. Describe the jogger - old or young, clothes, hair. Do they plod or speed past? Describe the jogger as an animal of some kind.

Scene 3: as the jogger disappears, a photographer takes a picture of them. As they look through the lens, describe the scene in the camera lens, and move from the jogger to the old man (this links it all together).

In the exam, he then has to link this to the picture somehow - if he gets a photo of an old man, great, start straight in. If he gets a busy street, one line about the busy street, then 'in a quiet corner, an old man watched the busy street from a rickety bench'. If it's a boat on a stormy sea, the old man remembers his days as a fisherman in scene 1. If a hillside path, a bird could swoop over that, then travel further and see the old man... etc

He can memorise scenes 1-3, then all he has to do is write a (tenuous) link to the picture.

This is what we teach y11 to do, and we get solid results and positive comments from examiners.

He has time as AQA lang is after half term. Good luck!

This is how my son was tutored - get a story written then all he has to do is link it to the photo
He got a 7 from a predicted 4/5
This is good advice

MrsHamlet · 18/05/2023 06:43

filchards · 17/05/2023 23:03

@BobBobBobbing where can I find stuff for him to memorise?.

We're really good at spotting remembered stuff that students have found and used. That's a very dangerous game to play.

filchards · 18/05/2023 06:20

@HereBeFuckery - ah. Gosh. I wonder if he realises that. I don't know which of those options for q5 he'd generally go for.

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HereBeFuckery · 18/05/2023 05:09

@filchards it does say write a description but it's a descriptive piece of fiction writing they want. It's misleading, as it's not supposed to be just a basic description. Have you looked at the mark scheme - it's woolly and vague but will give you some guidance.
If you do the written prompt for Lang 1 Q5, you should write a narrative story.

filchards · 17/05/2023 23:26

@clary He is so hopeless he can't write starter paragraphs- he's going to have to spoon-fed. Which is what I wanted the tutor to do but she doesn't get how bad he is. Because when you sit next to him, he's a charming and articulate young man. Then he sits on his own to do the work and he's a zombie.

Exam is after half term. I'll have expired from stress by then, at this rate.

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Barleysugar86 · 17/05/2023 23:24

You say he likes coding, can he try and tie in his writing to that? Eg. they want something unexpected. What if it is something unexpected in the coding. Can he describe how he feels when he codes etc.

filchards · 17/05/2023 23:21

@clary but the question says write a description of the man in the photo, not a story about him.

Well yes it'd be great to get him to write and memorise a story but he can't write stories. Which is why I'm asking about how he can construct one which he can memorise and adapt. Presumably lookinh at examples would help, but where? Nothing is too simple for him as he is absolutely hopeless.

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filchards · 17/05/2023 23:11

@HereBeFuckery - I think though the picture is for writing a description of, not a story.

The story option is about something else.

Or have I also misunderstood?

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clary · 17/05/2023 23:09

filchards · 17/05/2023 23:03

@BobBobBobbing where can I find stuff for him to memorise?.

@filchards surely better if he writes it and owns it and memorises his own work?

clary · 17/05/2023 23:08

Op the image you posted (the old man) is paper 1 (creative writing) - there are some good ideas from @HereBeFuckery on how to tackle this.

I agree the Venn diagram is not great for your son. Could he draft some basic starter paras and characters or even the majority of a story and learn that? The exam is next week I think?

filchards · 17/05/2023 23:03

@BobBobBobbing where can I find stuff for him to memorise?.

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filchards · 17/05/2023 23:02

@HairyKitty thanks for your comments. Unfortunately he needs a 5 for 6th form. So, getting less than that is really going to hamper the next stage of his education. He wants to do Maths, Further Maths, physics, comp.sci A levels.

He saw his tutor today and we told her about his blankness over the homework. She gave him yet more resources about planning. He didn't want to talk about it to us but tells us its all fine now. I've heard that before. I think he just wants to forget about it.

I worry that he's now had too much input from too many people and can't get it clear in his mind. Surely he needs lots of practice to build up those skills. I've been saying this for a year.

The resources are so confusing. So many words, boxes, shapes, colours. Surely completely the wrong thing for an ADHD brain.

Where are the materials for the kids who would be happy with a 5?

I find the reports and mark schemes so stressful I'm practically hyperventilating myself.

Where can I find model answers (grade 5)?

What about these example stories you can memorise?

And then I remember it was actually Paper 2 q 5 he was struggling with but going back to paper 1 q5 he can't do that either.

What.a.mess

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HairyKitty · 17/05/2023 21:43

@filchards do you know how to locate the past papers, mark scheme and examiners report/exemplar material?

Second, the venn diagram isn’t suitable for someone working at your sons level, it’s generic and therefore useless.

I imagine you would be delighted with a grade 4, so when you read the exemplars and examiners report look at the comments for answers scoring around that grade.

Most of all try not to panic and help your poor son not panic. It so is not the end of the world. He can resit his English as many times as his needs to, he can resit as a private candidate out of school and he can take functional skills instead. This exam isn’t the end of the line and maybe when his brains a bit more mature he will be better able to tackle an English exam.

For what it’s worth my child’s grades went from a scant 4 to 8/9s with medication.

BobBobBobbing · 17/05/2023 20:44

Ds1 said lit didn't go too badly. He managed to get something down on the page! Massive result, although we're still not expecting a pass.

What pp described above is our approach for lang- basically memorise a piece of creative writing that can be tweaked to the relevant pic.

HereBeFuckery · 17/05/2023 05:42

For Lang Paper 1 - the one with the picture that you posted (old man), he can pre prepare some 'scenes'. Get him to work with you on this:

Scene 1: an old man on a bench. What does he look like - describe his face, his hands, his clothes, his shoes. Use one simile, one metaphor and/or one form of personification. Now describe an expression on his face (sadness is easier than happiness!)

Scene 2: the old man sees a jogger running past. Describe the jogger - old or young, clothes, hair. Do they plod or speed past? Describe the jogger as an animal of some kind.

Scene 3: as the jogger disappears, a photographer takes a picture of them. As they look through the lens, describe the scene in the camera lens, and move from the jogger to the old man (this links it all together).

In the exam, he then has to link this to the picture somehow - if he gets a photo of an old man, great, start straight in. If he gets a busy street, one line about the busy street, then 'in a quiet corner, an old man watched the busy street from a rickety bench'. If it's a boat on a stormy sea, the old man remembers his days as a fisherman in scene 1. If a hillside path, a bird could swoop over that, then travel further and see the old man... etc

He can memorise scenes 1-3, then all he has to do is write a (tenuous) link to the picture.

This is what we teach y11 to do, and we get solid results and positive comments from examiners.

He has time as AQA lang is after half term. Good luck!

Smoothbananagram · 17/05/2023 01:50

I've suggested students start with the weather ( pathetic fallacy) when they have a blank. Even if the image does not suggest it, it doesn't matter - the image is just a stimulus. Plan one positive weather starter and one negative- selection depending on what feels most appropriate when they see the task. Ideally they would come back to this as the final sentence to get some marks for structural cohesion. They could literally repeat it or, if feeling able, adapt it to create more of an ending.
E.g... start with: 'Dark clouds loomed overhead. Was the wind whistling or weeping? Rain threatened.' and then finish with 'Dark clouds loomed overhead' if it makes sense to, or a weather shift: 'The dark clouds had passed.' ( Simple sentences usually work well at start and end for clarity).
Obviously the bit in between needs writing and to 'fit' but this would work well enough to just get going and hopefully provide an end point too. Do the end as a single sentence paragraph to demonstrate a little more conscious structuring.

filchards · 16/05/2023 21:10

He is improving at the analysis type questions so that's not too bad. And he seems to be able to plan the answers to the longer questions. He's obviously learned the mechanics. BUT then can't make a start. The words don't come.

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filchards · 16/05/2023 21:08

@Itstoday - yes diagnosed with ADHD. I fight his corner all the time with teachers who don't understand him but I'm absolutely at sea myself sometimes. I know it's not his fault but he seems to be his own worst enemy too.

Yes, he needs something concrete to write. Some way in. Any suggestions of where I can find ideas? Or model answers so that we can see what others have done (preferably those who got a 5 or 6, as there's no point him looking at 8s and 9s). I've heard of people literally memorising stories and then just changing them to fit the brief but I don't know how to go about this. I have various resources but they don't - basically - tell you how to (almost) cheat. We also need resources that aim to get a 5 or 6.

Part of the problem is that he's at a grammar school and they're all expected to get high marks so most of the last 2 years have just gone straight over his head. I'm sure if he'd been taught at a lower level from earlier on, he'd have engaged more. But can't go back and chance the past!

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BobBobBobbing · 16/05/2023 21:00

@filchards ds has dyspraxia, but he's asked about being assessed for adhd as well (I've got it and his little brother is being assessed for that and autism).

Physics, maths and coding are Ds's thing as well- he'd much rather do that than boring old English.Hmm

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