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Pupil calling teacher love

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Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 16:02

Year 11 girl refers to female teacher as love. Not a one off, drops it frequently in conversation with her. ie. Hi love, how are you? Are you having a good day?

It just doesn't sit right with me but does it need reporting to DSL? Or do I need to get over myself?

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Jellyx · 04/04/2023 22:50

It should be the teacher who addresses it. Also be aware you don't know the students circumstances - perhaps there are learning needs or memory issues

gkhg · 04/04/2023 22:49

Am I the only one who doesn't see an issue?

herlightmaterials · 04/04/2023 22:42

I tend to look at things as if it was my children involved. What would I want for them and how would I want them to treat and be treated by teachers.

Look at things as a professional. Act as a professional. These aren't your kids. She is clearly better at leveling with them. Your don't want that for your kids. Personal preference.

herlightmaterials · 04/04/2023 22:40

surreygirl1987 · 04/04/2023 19:04

A teacher doesn't deserve respect just for being a teacher 🤷🏻. The kids have no respect for her, so I'm not sure why I should respect her.

Eh?

It's very odd. A professional deserves respect from their colleagues unless there is a lot more going on than 'the kids don't respect her'. It's very unprofessional on the op's part. But I think she should take this to the top to get her own attitude into the spotlight and perhaps be told to get her head in order.

Op, if you don't respect this woman and you're not a TA, FFS stay out of her classroom. Her students will see an older woman looking at her like a duck in thunder and it won't be helping any classroom management issues she may (or may not) have.

Is her head of department concerned about her performance? Are you HOD?

surreygirl1987 · 04/04/2023 19:04

A teacher doesn't deserve respect just for being a teacher 🤷🏻. The kids have no respect for her, so I'm not sure why I should respect her.

Eh?

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 04/04/2023 18:35

A teacher doesn't deserve respect just for being a teacher 🤷🏻. The kids have no respect for her, so I'm not sure why I should respect her.

Not sure you're the best person to be judging professional boundaries.

When you tell the DSL about this incident, you should also tell them about the content you've posted on this thread- I doubt they will deem it appropriate.

SeasonFinale · 04/04/2023 13:47

When I said term of endearment it was more in the terms of you guys, mate but not even that. Its hard to say. It has almost become as much a part of their sentence when addressing someone in the way that "like" has infiltrated many sentences too.

HollyGolightly4 · 02/04/2023 22:15

I would pass on concerns. It could be part of a bigger picture. It's a bit strange.

A child once called me darling...never made that mistake again! And I have some lads who tag 'man' on to everything, but a well intoned 'sorry, did you just call me man??!! Instead of Mrs Golightly goes a long way.

I wouldn't dream of consistently not challenging something.

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 22:07

@herlightmaterials @Waydown @Tellmethespoiler
No, nothing to do with disliking her.
I actually like her a lot.

I do struggle with her lack of boundaries and professionalism though.

I tend to look at things as if it was my children involved. What would I want for them and how would I want them to treat and be treated by teachers.

If I didn't like her, it would be easy to wade into her. In this case the opposite is true.

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Tellmethespoiler · 02/04/2023 20:50

You sound very unprofessional and rather unpleasant.

Waydown · 02/04/2023 20:45

Oh dear. So this is all about a teacher you dislike...?

herlightmaterials · 02/04/2023 20:27

The kids have no respect for her, so I'm not sure why I should respect her.

What did I just read? You take your cue from schoolchildren and disrespect if they do?

You sound an unpleasant character who has it in for her.

Go ahead and carry out a smear campaign. If this is all you have, I suspect your unprofessional attitude to another professional will reflect poorly on you.

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 19:59

@JustAnotherManicNameChange she's the type who wants to be best mates with them, being in her 40's, I'd have thought she was old enough to know better 🤷🏻

I shall have a chat with one of the safeguarding team I think and see if they want it to be made official.

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Prescottdanni123 · 02/04/2023 19:49

I work as a teaching assistant in a secondary school. Some of the olders kids do this, as a way of being cheeky. I normally respond with a "I'm sorry, what did you just call me?" On the occasions where they are brave enough to repeat it instead of blushing and a stammering "Oh...er....umm...nothing miss," I say something along the lines of "I'm a TA, not your 'love'. Talk to me with some respect please,".

Waydown · 02/04/2023 19:33

I don't think anyone dismissing the idea of reporting this has any experience of current safeguarding guidance. This is exactly the kind of thing that should be reported as a low level concern. Probably there's no need for concern, there certainly won't be any big drama as a result of this one report, but it will be recorded to be part of the full picture if there are future concerns about this teacher and boundaries. Most of them will never be thought of again but it's to prevent those situations we've all read about where people always "knew" Mr X was dodgy but no one did anything.

Low level concerns recorded in my school in the last few weeks include inappropriate use of language with students, vaping with and/or in view of students and allowing a student to use a staff computer login.

ReadersD1gest · 02/04/2023 19:25

SeasonFinale · 02/04/2023 17:54

It is used a lot nowadays by youngsters and not in the northern you alright love kind of manner. It is still a term of endearment with no sexual connotation and I would laugh if someone reported this to me.

Why would a student use a term of endearment to address their teacher? It's inappropriate, however you try to spin it.
Would you be ok with the boys greeting her with an "Alright, Darlin"?

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 02/04/2023 19:23

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 18:17

@JustAnotherManicNameChange I have raised concerns about other things but this happened on Friday and I was a bit gob smacked. I wanted to sleep on it.
Sleeping on it didn't clarify anything, hence my post.

I'll be honest, it doesn't sound appropriate to me.

Is she really young or the "I'm my pupils best mate and I'm so incredibly cool type"?

Or not very confident at establishing good relationships while also maintaining boundaries?

Either way, she needs some support/a reminder of behaviour policy and behaviour management.

I think, as a first port of call I'd talk to her and depending on what she says and her reaction decide if to take it further.

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 19:00

@herlightmaterials not a TA no.
A degree educated person who has taught in FE and held positions in schools for 15 years.

No special needs. I have known this student for 5 years, the teacher has known them for 7 months.
A teacher doesn't deserve respect just for being a teacher 🤷🏻. The kids have no respect for her, so I'm not sure why I should respect her.

Other concerns have been passed up to SLT via head of department and the teacher has been spoken to.

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surreygirl1987 · 02/04/2023 18:37

It's not appropriate at all.

Eh? Of course it is!! And if the teacher hasn't corrected the student, that's odd and a bit concerning!

herlightmaterials · 02/04/2023 18:24

No I don't think you need to do anything about this. Possibly a bit of respect for the teacher and their judgement wouldn't go amiss. Unless you have something else that concerns you. What is your role? TA? While there can't be too much safeguarding and I don't want to silence you, you are a bit out of line if this is all you have. There may be additional needs that mean the pupil isn't aware this is inappropriate and teacher is considering how to gently push back without knocking back. You don't know. I'd feel very judged and micromanaged if you were in my classroom.

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 18:17

@JustAnotherManicNameChange I have raised concerns about other things but this happened on Friday and I was a bit gob smacked. I wanted to sleep on it.
Sleeping on it didn't clarify anything, hence my post.

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Poppinjay · 02/04/2023 18:15

It's the fact that teacher apparently doesn't have a problem with it that maybe a problem. What other boundaries aren't being kept?

This is exactly what low-level concerns are for. Send a report and leave it to the DSL to deal with.

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 02/04/2023 18:13

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 17:47

Not 6th form.

Don't have a broomstick up my arse, there is just something off about it.
I have been know to call a kid love at times but I'd be a bit 😳 if they called me love.
The kids call each other love and there are a lot of love you between them.

First time in 15 years I have heard a kid call a teacher love 🤷🏻 and it just doesn't sit right that the child isn't corrected by the teacher.

We are told any concerns to pass to the safeguarding team. That way, it is no longer our problem and they will deal (or not) as they deem appropriate.
Maybe I am just a bit old fashioned 🙈

Have you raised your concerns with the teacher at all?

What does she say about the situation?

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 18:12

The difference being, on the odd occasion I have used love, it has been at times of upset, not just a "hi love, how's your day going love" and on one occasion I didn't actually know his name 😬. He was a snivelling wreck, trying to get his name out of him was the last thing on my mind.
I actually gave him a sideway hug too 😂, I did go to the deputy head though and told her I'd crossed a line but he was distraught. She thanked me for telling her and said she understood.

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FlawlessSquid · 02/04/2023 18:11

Fuctifin0 · 02/04/2023 17:47

Not 6th form.

Don't have a broomstick up my arse, there is just something off about it.
I have been know to call a kid love at times but I'd be a bit 😳 if they called me love.
The kids call each other love and there are a lot of love you between them.

First time in 15 years I have heard a kid call a teacher love 🤷🏻 and it just doesn't sit right that the child isn't corrected by the teacher.

We are told any concerns to pass to the safeguarding team. That way, it is no longer our problem and they will deal (or not) as they deem appropriate.
Maybe I am just a bit old fashioned 🙈

Trust your instinct. Better sorry than late.

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