Over zealous school discipline

Interesting over reaction!

If everyone else is saying something different to you then maybe it’s time to listen. I say this as an experienced secondary teacher. Time and time again I would see the difference between parents who stepped up when their 13 year old was messing around and those who didn’t. The parents who didn’t support the school and made excuses or blamed the school would be contacting the school 3 years later asking for help with their child who was now being a pain in the arse at home too, some times in community and failing at school. At that point no matter how hard the parents and school worked together there was very little time to turn things round.

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presumably in her perfect school kids will be able to wander in and out of lessons, have playground fights while vandalising the buildings and tell teachers to shut up if they are told off in lessons.
I wish her good luck in finding anyone who wishes to work in a school like that…..

If you don't agree with the rules or procedures in a school, educate your children elsewhere.

It sounds lovely je your child is causing problems if you are getting spreadsheets like these. I find out about credits only but then my child behaves

So what are your suggestions? No boundaries, no expectations, and no standards?

It's interesting to see the replies when you dare to question school procedures.
I hope the next generation actually have the courage to try something different regarding education.

This.
I can't imagine that busy teachers are devoting so much time to reporting discipline unless they consider there to be a problem. But it's kind of refreshing to hear someone complaining about a school setting expectations of behaviour and boundaries when the complaints are usually that they don't!

Also fascinated about when you went to school and they didn't care about your behaviour OP. At the type old age of 65, I recall my school being very hot on attendance, behaviour, and discipline. Perhaps it says more about the sort of school you went to that they didn't care?

It’s not a stretch to expect kids to pee during break times, not give cheek, and arrive on time to a room that should take less than three minutes to walk to from wherever they are in the building. There is a huge amount of learning to get through in secondary, every single second is accounted for and meant to count. The ‘constant complaining’ is a huge admin headache to teachers who are meant to be educating and they wouldn’t do it unless it was necessary.

Sounds like your child and his friends are being quite difficult and the school are hoping you parents will all parent your children. No teachers put together spreadsheets like this or waste time on emails for shits and giggles.
Why do you need a face-to-face meeting instead of a Zoom one? It sounds like you're purposely being difficult as well.

Other than toilet visits we get all that.
Although phone calls home are generally because of particularly poor behaviour, so I suspect you may be minimising how bad your DC is behaving. If nothing else, teachers don't have time to ring parents about every child "for a bit of backchat"

Is this for all students or just yours? High jinxs in the playground - you’re minimising poor behaviour.

We get lates, merits and demerits in an app. Toilet breaks? Wtaf

Back chat is not a minor matter. In my experience by the time they call home it's happened multiple times and the teacher is at the end of their tether.
With regards to playground high jinx- I obviously don't know details but again, this is likely to be repeated behaviour because schools prefer to warn them in the hopes that it stops and they don't have to call home etc There a thin line between high jinx and bullying, someone getting hurt and antisocial behaviour out of school when there's no adult supervision. I'm not saying that your son will end up a criminal but the sort of people who end up with ASBOs were at the playground high jinx place at one time and behaviour not changing then led to that path.

Schools have to monitor stuff like that because they are monitored by OFSTED and can be sued of kids are hurt when they are supposed to be looking after them. If you want a more relaxed school then you'll probably need to consider the sorts of schools rated inadequate

Secondary schools are increasingly operating like this. It’s not working. It’s miserable. Normal in the sense that it’s being normalised, but it’s certainly not helpful. It must be awful being under that level of scrutiny. I feel for our young people.

Most schools don't allow children to go to the toilet in lesson times so that wouldn't be a normal contact point for parents. The other things that you mention such as late for lessons, backchat and 'high jinks' are not normal and you are underplaying that - that would be a cause for contact in most schools I can think of.

We get access to info but predominantly positive, I have never had a phone call and the school certainly doesn't tell me about toilet visits.

These things though: phone calls home re a bit of high jinx in the playground, phone calls for a bit of backchat in class are not small matters, it sounds like there is some disruption going on?

Your school sounds like it is struggling tbh.