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SPGS actual offers and acceptances

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spnumbers · 22/01/2023 09:09

This has been mentioned a few times. Here's last year's actual results by school. The class was 113. 51 places were achieved by making 53 offers. That's 45% of the class. At that rate, it implies that a total of 4.4 offers were declined. If we think the other 55% is more likely to decline offers, then it's more like 7-12 total offers declined. Enjoy.

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FriendlyMom · 25/01/2023 13:20

Lolakath19 · 25/01/2023 11:59

With very little doubt, SPGS for 110 places will likely do at least 130 offers with waiting list of maybe 15.

Someone mentioned in the past threads that one year the SPGS class was 113 girls. What would be the reason for the higher number?

11plus2023 · 25/01/2023 13:20

Thanks Lolakath 19 - we have to start the process this year and understanding the numbers is very helpful...

Lolakath19 · 25/01/2023 12:32

And SPGS goes into their WL most years as well, last year 3 girls from Bute, 1 from KP and 1/2 from FH.

Lolakath19 · 25/01/2023 12:31

I would not say it is better than other school, don t forget there are 3 different rounds and some people not even bothering applying if not at the requested standard.
Would not surprise me that G&L for example for 120 places will do at least 180/190 offers. Most of the girls sitting SPGS will sit G&L and probably get offers from both so that is almost 80/90 girls that will turn G&L down straight away.

School like Putney, WHS might do offers to more than double the number of places

11plus2023 · 25/01/2023 12:24

So SPGS has one of the best post interview conversion rates = 130/200? This is better than most other schools

PreplexJ · 25/01/2023 12:20

Lolakath19 · 25/01/2023 11:59

With very little doubt, SPGS for 110 places will likely do at least 130 offers with waiting list of maybe 15.

Agree with the estimation in bullpark

Lolakath19 · 25/01/2023 11:59

With very little doubt, SPGS for 110 places will likely do at least 130 offers with waiting list of maybe 15.

11plus2023 · 25/01/2023 11:55

So I heard from a NLCS parent - there are 12 kids from NLCS writing SPGS this year, so its true lots of the through to 18 junior schools will be writing this... why would parents shift girls from one top performing school to another?

spnumbers · 24/01/2023 08:00

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secondaryquandries · 24/01/2023 00:22

www.holycrossprepschool.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Destination-of-leavers-2022.pdf
2 offers, 1 accepted

gentlydownthestreamspgs · 24/01/2023 00:17

rowrowrowyourboatspgs · 23/01/2023 20:33

Their best sport is rowing, they have girls rowing for Princeton and Stanford. Not sure which sports your DD is most interested in?

Do they have Paulinas rowing for OxBridge?

rowrowrowyourboatspgs · 23/01/2023 20:33

Link2022 · 23/01/2023 00:18

How is your daughter finding it? My dd had an interview but she is much more interested in leh or Putney as she does not think it has enough competitive sport. What are your thoughts?

Their best sport is rowing, they have girls rowing for Princeton and Stanford. Not sure which sports your DD is most interested in?

FactyFrances · 23/01/2023 20:00

@Link2022 I think SPGS is wonderful; they seem to do everything better, and with minimal fuss, compared to other schools where I've taught or been a parent. But I'd seriously consider your daughter's preference since she's the one who will be at one of these schools for the next 7 years and LEH and PH are both very respectable options.

DilettanteMum · 23/01/2023 16:09

It's actually 18 in the end for Bute. Three off wait list.

BonjourCrisette · 23/01/2023 11:06

I am a current parent at SPGS whose daughter came from a state primary, and who also got into Tiffin which we declined. Of the girls at SPGS she knows who live near us, most had applied to Tiffin and everyone who applied got into Tiffin and declined the place in favour of St Paul's (they did discuss the whole 11+ process quite a lot in Y7). I would not say that it is anything like 50% state unless that has changed over the last few years. I would guess more like perhaps 30% from the girls I know of (but that is obviously a small sample size). It is possible that this figure has gone up a bit in recent years because I know they are very keen for more bursary applications and that they have been doing quite a lot of outreach work to this end.

Link2022 · 23/01/2023 00:18

FactyFrances · 22/01/2023 19:38

@Link2022 I'm a current parent but have no idea. It could be 50% or 30%. Each year group is too big to know everyone and the girls barely discuss where they went to prep/primary. My DCs seldom know where any but their closest friends attended before secondary school. Sorry not to be more helpful!

How is your daughter finding it? My dd had an interview but she is much more interested in leh or Putney as she does not think it has enough competitive sport. What are your thoughts?

FactyFrances · 22/01/2023 19:38

@Link2022 I'm a current parent but have no idea. It could be 50% or 30%. Each year group is too big to know everyone and the girls barely discuss where they went to prep/primary. My DCs seldom know where any but their closest friends attended before secondary school. Sorry not to be more helpful!

spnumbers · 22/01/2023 16:33

BTW, if you do this for other years, the half of the independents, comes out with very similar numbers, not much variation.

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HawaiiWake · 22/01/2023 16:21

Late offers from WL, when deposit in another school been given. So getting some data on offers doesn’t reflect the full narrative. Interesting to have a data and do a time line vs offer and WL. A few families prefer grammar schools or the French Lycee offers since it has cheaper fees.

PreplexJ · 22/01/2023 16:08

woohooho · 22/01/2023 15:38

I think this thread just shows the narrowness of some people's world- there are a ton of private preps not already mentioned that send girls everywhere. There are also a ton of state school pupils who can easily afford private school fees but choose not to at primary and will choose private over Tiffin etc. Just as there are huge numbers of Prep parents desperate not to pay secondary school fees.

Agrees there are tons, but from the probability/statistics point of view will be very different. Purely looking at one years for accurate picture doesnt make sense to me either.

HighRopes · 22/01/2023 15:40

I have a dd in this year’s Y7 - state primary so won’t show up on any stats. She was offered Tiffin, so we did have that choice to make. I’d be surprised if it’s as high as 50% state school intake, just from chatting to her about what schools her friends came from.

woohooho · 22/01/2023 15:38

I think this thread just shows the narrowness of some people's world- there are a ton of private preps not already mentioned that send girls everywhere. There are also a ton of state school pupils who can easily afford private school fees but choose not to at primary and will choose private over Tiffin etc. Just as there are huge numbers of Prep parents desperate not to pay secondary school fees.

PreplexJ · 22/01/2023 14:58

There is private junior school - won't publish the numbers, overseas pupils and preps outside London... A lot of noise and randomness.

Link2022 · 22/01/2023 14:54

LondonMum20222 · 22/01/2023 14:28

@PreplexJ Yes, that makes sense. Although equally I'm always quite surprised on the elevenplus forum just how many people turn down Tiffins each year (usually about 30) and from what I've read over the years a fair few of those reject it for SPGS / G&L or one of the other top day indies.

I also agree with you that I think it highly unlikely that SPGS (or any top London day school) has 50% state school intake (other than those with their own junior school who have fewer places at 11 anyway, and do tend to offer to more state school applicants at 11). Just from the table above, the implication of that is that nobody from any other prep school - or from any private through school - gets and offer which is clearly nonsense!

I think it is close to 50/50, maybe 55/45 but it is close. I am bored and curious so looking at last year — Ravenscourt prep 0 offers, Roche school 0 offers, mill house 0 offers, Newton prep 0 offers, ambercorn 0 offers, falcons girls 0 offers, fhss 1 offer, Kew college 1 offer, heathfield 1 offer (they published 1 offer and 1 accepted) We have nearly exhausted the indie London prep schools.

PreplexJ · 22/01/2023 14:32

“how many people turn down Tiffins each year (usually about 30) and from what I've read over the years a fair few of those reject it for SPGS / G&L or one of the other top day indies.”

Not all Tiffins holders are from state schools, a sizable portion are from Prep (including even feeder prep to SPGS), sit Tiffin as backup or practice. And those applicants are not financial constrained.