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11 year old DS, severe separation anxiety and secondary school struggles - suggestions for alternative London schools?

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usernamebore · 20/09/2022 11:57

Hi

DS is 11 and just started secondary at a relatively kind and supportive London co-ed private. Unfortunately he has developed acute separation anxiety and every day for the last two weeks has been brutal. He has had multiple panic attacks in the morning, including in school. This morning he was screaming in fear, sobbing, begging me not to leave, begging me to get him help as he was so scared, hyperventilating etc. When I tried to leave he was so terrified he pushed past the teacher and was basically fighting to get to me and grabbing on to my work bag with white knuckles. He seems terrified of being alone in the school without us. It seems he had a propensity for this, but Covid and the recent death of his grandfather (they were very close) has pushed him over the edge. Pre-Covid he loved having playdates with friends from primary school, but when the restrictions lifted he just refused to have them. I wonder if being told to stay at home with us to keep safe from Covid just exacerbated this sense that he needs to be with us.

I have managed to get him in school every day for the last two weeks, and he has taken part in almost all of the lessons, but it is brutal for him and for us. The school are being helpful, and he has an appointment with the counsellor. We are also looking to try and get him seen by someone privately to help. I worry about the fact that all his peers have obviously seen some of this, and dont want him to start getting bullied or ostracized for being the weird crying kid. It is also hard not to think it is annoying for his teachers....

But part of me wonders if a big, competitive school like this is just not going to work for him. If it gets to that stage, does anyone have any suggestions for smaller london schools with really good SEN provision, or that might otherwise be better able to support him and us with this? Anyone had any experience with separation anxiety issues like this and have any advice, or know of a school which might be better for him? Dealing with getting him in every morning, and then going off and doing a full days work is just killing me and I worry a lot about his long term mental health.

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Dripdropper · 20/09/2022 13:58

Agree with the suggestions of a PP regarding school based interventions (and private therapy). Unless there is something about the particular school that is a real trigger for him, you’re better off keeping him where he is and treating the anxiety. (As long as school can provide the support and intervention).

changing schools may add to the unsettledness and also possibly confirm he’s right to have trouble separating. Unlikely a new school will “fix” the issue, particularly if you’re right about the cause being covid and bereavement.

I liked what a PP said about how they communicated through their actions that they knew underneath it all their DS was a capable boy who can learn and make friends. In the long term, this is a v v good message for him to internalise.

if this is the tip of iceberg of more significant MH problems (I don’t feel from your OP that you think it is) then maybe look into therapeutic schools such as Red Balloon etc but I don’t think that should be first step.

PizzaFunghi · 20/09/2022 13:45

Would something like the Red Balloon Centres be an option? I know that they are usually for children who can't go to the usual school because of bullying etc, but it might be suitable for this type of difficulty as well, particularly if the anxiety then develops around what the other kids have seen or what they might think, say etc. I think there is at least one in London.

Sothis · 20/09/2022 13:14

On a micro level (just one of the issues you mention) I bought my son a towelling robe that you wear and get changed under with some modesty (like what you have for toddlers at the beach). There are heaps for older children / adults now. Game changer!

MadamNoo · 20/09/2022 13:11

Portland Place offer a hybrid model with 2 days in school and 3 online, if that could be an option. They are very accommodating of SEN.

tpmumtobe · 20/09/2022 13:07

Yes my DS has particular anxiety around PE and getting changed. School let him change in a separate room, maybe your DS can do similar?

The relentlessness of it is exhausting and brutal. Especially I find, when he generally comes home feeling much better about things in the afternoon! Everything we were told (and have generally done as a result) has been based on the idea that if you validate the anxiety you only make it worse so you're doing the right thing by persevering. I know not everyone agrees with that approach but we were confident that underneath it all he was kid who loved learning and making friends and that we had to help him access that even if it seemed a bit callous in the moment when he was screaming and begging to come home with me.

Practical things that have helped:

Distraction - we play wordle/globle/nerdle etc on the walk to school, we make up stupid song lyrics, I gossip about grown up stuff I think he'll find interesting, tell jokes, anything to keep him talking and his mind off the impending separation helps. Don't talk about school or try and reassure him, it just makes it worse!
Responsibility: He's given a job by staff (sorting resources, setting up the hall etc) and has to go directly to help that member of staff instead of am registration. Makes him feel needed, breaks the routine.
Time: Letting him go to a safe space and then joining lessons when he's ready
No loitering: Sounds awful but basically, dragging it out only makes it worse. Once they've got hold of him, run away and don't look back. I've actually spoken to my son at length about this and he agrees that it's the best way for us to do it and that he finds it less upsetting overall.

usernamebore · 20/09/2022 12:52

@tpmumtobe Thank you very much - that is really helpful. It is the same with us really - the journey to school and the transition into school and leaving me is the big hurdle. He seems to be relatively fine in lessons (though he freaks out about PE sometimes - one of the things he was anxious about today was having to get changed in front of everyone for swimming. He kept saying it was weird and gross to get naked with strangers and the school were awful for making them . He also freaked out about Rugby, having never done it before, and was terrified of getting hurt). I think the extreme nature of the panic this morning, and the fact that his head of year and head of the lower school all witnessed it and tried to help, means that we should be able to get something in place for him as a support plan. In the meantime I have to try and deal with having to get up tomorrow morning and do the whole thing all over again....It is exhausting. But every day he is in school all day has to be taken as a win.

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tpmumtobe · 20/09/2022 12:27

You've basically described my DS12 except his issues started in Yr 5 and he's now Yr8 and we're out the other side of it (though he still has anxiety and finds the morning drop off in particular a difficult transition). What has worked for us fundamentally is CBT and exposure therapy (via CAMHS, though you could look at private support), we've chosen a school with outstanding pastoral care (a local comp with excellent SEN provision) over a more pressured academic environment, and we've accepted that baby steps are big milestones and it'll take him time but he will get there slowly.

I had similar worries to you, but his friendship group and cohort have been hugely understanding and supportive, he's not had his 'weird' behaviour picked on at all. His teachers and support staff all know how best to handle it and can read the room effectively (eg some days he needs distraction, some days he needs a firmer approach, some days he needs to be given time and space to adjust in a separate room).

He is thriving academically despite the anxiety. For my son a lot of it is about getting over the hurdle of getting through the door, if that makes sense? Once he's in he is genuinely ok (I appreciate that's not true of all kids).

If I were you I would give his current school time to come up with a support plan. I would expect them to be offering tailored interventions, planned 121 support (at the gate especially), emotional/social training eg ELSA, something like a zones of regulation programme, to teach him self help skills.

If they can't deliver then look to move him but don't assume that smaller is better. DS is at a very large school with a third of kids with SEN, but that brings with it a huge amount of resource and support.

It is hugely draining having to deal with this as a parent, it has broken me several times so I feel your pain. But it does get better, I promise.

usernamebore · 20/09/2022 12:08

@Teddletoddle thanks - it is always helpful to hear about people who had the same struggle but came out the other side. I will check it out

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usernamebore · 20/09/2022 12:07

Thanks - will investigate

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Teddletoddle · 20/09/2022 12:02

As a teenager the actress, Rebecca Front ( Thick of it), suffered hugely from separation anxiety due to the death of loved ones around her. She came through it but reading an account of her struggles gives you a good understanding of her mindset and will help you understand your son.
Perhaps you could borrow her autobiography, Curious, from the library?
She got through it by the school giving her mother permission to work in the school library for the first few weeks.

Lovetogarden2022 · 20/09/2022 12:01

Jo at Tayberry Tuition is great with kids who have any kind of anxiety surrounding school, whether they're refusing to go, or just have a lot of anxiety surrounding school. My son was getting quite "worked up" (to put it lightly) about going into school at the end of last year and she really helped managed his anxiety around it and find out the route cause. I'm sure she'd be able to recommend if there's other schools that might be better suited as well X

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