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Please can you tell me about Grey Court's sixth form

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fouxdafafaff · 17/09/2022 16:14

We're planning to move to Ham once DS has finished his GCSEs, so Grey Court will be our local secondary school. Heard some very positive things about Grey Court in general but would like to hear feedback from parents about the sixth form specifically.

DS is planning to do maths, physics and geography. Are these subjects taught well and what are the science facilities like? And is there much disruption in lessons?

DS is very sporty (football fanatic!) so would be interested to hear about their sports provision. How often do they play football matches for instance.

Many thanks!

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TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 07/07/2023 19:36

This year catchment for Orlean Park was a bit more than 900m. So it is around Mediterranean shop. Maybe Waldergrave catchment is also there, who knows...
In 2023 there is smaller population of kids so it would be easier everywhere to get in.
Turing House covers part of the Hampton, Twickenham and Hampton Hill, and part of Teddington.

But who knows how it is going to be in fre years when OP moves in...

We put Turing House as our 3rd or 4th option

hazyday · 07/07/2023 18:16

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 07/07/2023 17:49

Of course you are right @hazyday and that is why people mentioned here move in Y5. That would be also a time to review school performance versus location location location :)

Having said that, I must mention that I have lived in this borough since 2005 and don't recall Orlean Park to have bad results. It is very much about who lives the catchment.

Its intake used to be more socio-economically diverse before it got its Outstanding grade because its catchment was a lot wider.

I know lots of Orleans parents. Like most schools, they say some departments are stronger than others.

Most of the kids obviously transfer to the secondaries from very local primaries, so if I was moving into the borough I'd want my kids to settle in to those and make some friends before applying, and I'd be reading all the admissions policies carefully. The offer day distances may be on school websites too.

Turing House publish maps of their intake every September. I don't think there's much overlap with the Orleans catchment, but there is overlap with Waldegrave and Teddington.

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 07/07/2023 17:49

Of course you are right @hazyday and that is why people mentioned here move in Y5. That would be also a time to review school performance versus location location location :)

Having said that, I must mention that I have lived in this borough since 2005 and don't recall Orlean Park to have bad results. It is very much about who lives the catchment.

hazyday · 07/07/2023 14:37

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 07/07/2023 13:23

I live in Richmond Borough. If I were you I would move less then a mile or preferably half of a mile from Orlean Park School. This is because the current radius catchment is a bit less than a mile. It is expensive to rent there but Orlean Park is one of the best state schools in the country.
Turing House is good, a bit worse perventage-wise when it comes to grades 7+, but to get there you would need to live in Twickenham or Hampton Hill. Maybe there is

So ridiculous to base school preferences and expensive housing decisions on a comparison of one or two years recent results - they could be completely different by the time your child gets to that age. Schools change all the time. Orleans Park has had a new headteacher recently, and Turing has finally moved into its new permanent site (which is lovely), and all schools are positioned differently with respect to the current national funding pressures, so will be impacted in different ways. Who knows where they'll all be ranked in a few years time.

Almostalwayshappy · 07/07/2023 13:59

Both my children went to Grey Court from Year 7. One went to Esher College for 6th Form and the other stayed at GC, leaving three years ago. Both did well at A Level and went to the unis of their choices. They didn't study your son's subjects. Esher is much bigger and suited the child who went there, who was, at the time, more outgoing. GC 6th form was nurturing. Personally, I felt GC offered more in terms of communication and UCAS support, but either would be great and academically were then pretty similar. Good luck.

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 07/07/2023 13:28

Maybe there is a point in Twickenham where you could be in catchment for both: Orlean's and also Turing.
Not sure about CoE schools. There is one in Sunbury ( Bishop' Grove)and you would need to live in Hampton in London Borough of Richmond to be considered. It is average, not bad school.
Better results have Catholic schools St Richards Reynolds in Twickenham and St Paul's in Sunbury.

Teddington School has again good results

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 13:27

Yes that’s a good idea

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 07/07/2023 13:23

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 09:38

so in summary we need to move before oct of year 5 to Richmond. Can commute the kids to Notting Hill until I can secure a placement in Richmond for year 6. Or just commute all year so they can stay at their school fox primary. (It’s so good). And hope to get into one of the secondary in Richmond. Even would be open to the CofE school as we are active members here

I live in Richmond Borough. If I were you I would move less then a mile or preferably half of a mile from Orlean Park School. This is because the current radius catchment is a bit less than a mile. It is expensive to rent there but Orlean Park is one of the best state schools in the country.
Turing House is good, a bit worse perventage-wise when it comes to grades 7+, but to get there you would need to live in Twickenham or Hampton Hill. Maybe there is

tennissquare · 07/07/2023 10:25

Why don't you aim for Christs school in Richmond that has church places too so you don't need to be in catchment.
Fox is a very good primary school in K&C but lots of dc will have left by year 6.

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 09:38

so in summary we need to move before oct of year 5 to Richmond. Can commute the kids to Notting Hill until I can secure a placement in Richmond for year 6. Or just commute all year so they can stay at their school fox primary. (It’s so good). And hope to get into one of the secondary in Richmond. Even would be open to the CofE school as we are active members here

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 09:33

Thank you so much @tennissquare yes those other secondary schools you mentioned would also be welcomed. Ultimately we want to move to Richmond as I think it would be the best environment for my children and us by the time they are 11yr and spouse can still commute to work from there. Preferably a state school coed (more affordable) as I left my job when I got pregnant and haven’t returned to full capacity. True very good point the kids will start moving about in the next two years. Kinda sad since they have all been together since nursery school and are so close. But that is why I’m starting to think ahead now to be prepared to move early and not wait til last minute. Many thanks dear

tennissquare · 07/07/2023 08:36

@Foxyhill , your dc are currently in year 1, the primary school years in central London are very transient, from the end of year 2 dc will start leaving to move to private schools or out of London. The classmates your dc have now will not be the same by even year 4. You would do best to move to the Richmond area in the next couple of years, Orleans Park and Turing House are also excellent secondary schools and all the state primary schools are excellent. The state primary schools in the borough also lose dc from year 3 onwards to the private sector and move out of London plus the birth rate is low so many schools are only just managing to fill their places, for example I bet Stanley primary school in Teddington would take your dc soon.
Best of luck with your move as it's a lovely area.

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 07:36

So. To do this correctly we just need to move before October in year 5 to our new home, which will be one we plan on living in for the next decade. And either I commute the kids back up north every day for a year or I will have to get them placed locally in Richmond into year 6 (which I fear will be quite difficult for them ) and apply for secondary school legally and hope for the best. ? It seems so absurd that it is so difficult to move houses and locations. I just want to make their transition as smoothly as possible

MarchingFrogs · 07/07/2023 07:28

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 00:43

Ok. But the overall plan is to move close to the school and live there I’m just not sure how to best work out the timing. And not disturb their current primary schooling too much before starting secondary school. If we move during year 5 then we’d be commuting back to their primary school 3 hours a day ?

For state schools, you must apply through the local authority in which you are resident, but can apply for schools in other local authorities as well as your own.

The schools themselves - or the school's 'maintaining' LA on its behalf - rank your application according to the oversubscription criteria in their individual admissions policies (which must be determined and set out on the school's website 18 months in advance of the September in which the intake will start at the school. The information as to whether your DC is ranked high enough to be offered a place is fed back to your LA via the LA in which the school is situated. Your LA collates the responses from all the schools which you named as preferences and you are allocated the school which you ranked highest which is saying Yes.

(If none of your preferences say Yes, your own LA must offer the nearest of its schools which has a place available, after all the on-time applicants have been offered).

You need to read the information in the schools' individual admissions policies with regard to how they rank applicants (but be aware that these can change, subject to the school having consulted with the wider community for a 6 week period between October and January essentially two years before the September in which that intake will start at the school).

The operative date for being 'provably' resident at the address from which you are making the application is generally the national deadline submission of the Common Application Form, which is 31st October; some LAs have a slightly later date for movers in, but equally, some individual schools may stipulate longer periods of residence (although there have been some successful legal challenges with regard to this).

You will have to put your DC's current primary school on the CAF and landing them with such a long daily commute, rather than applying for a primary place near to your new, apparently permanent, home address may raise a red flag that the the address given may not actually be where the child is living.

Every LA should publish guidance for parents re completing the CAF - which will include a warning about what will happen if it is found that a place has been allocated based on information given by the parent that is found to be false.

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 00:53

the long term plan is we want to move to Richmond and live there for maybe 10-15 years. But after the kids finish primary school ideally. I just have no idea how to accomplish this and not mess up their schooling process. Primarily we want a state co Ed school as they are b/g twins. It would be ideal to move towards the end of year 6 and sign a 5yr rental lease but I’m pretty sure it’s too late to even apply at that point We are expats so the schooling is very different than how I grew up

Foxyhill · 07/07/2023 00:43

Ok. But the overall plan is to move close to the school and live there I’m just not sure how to best work out the timing. And not disturb their current primary schooling too much before starting secondary school. If we move during year 5 then we’d be commuting back to their primary school 3 hours a day ?

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 06/07/2023 22:05

Tenancy contract for specified by school duration and presence on the Council list- is a prove. Otherwise, only house owners would be counted... And people do own few houses too.

It doesn't apply to me as I am a house owner but there are people who are moving to the catchment in Y5. 😄

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 06/07/2023 21:58

Exactly which school do you mean?

hazyday · 06/07/2023 21:44

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 06/07/2023 21:38

As long as she will be listed in Council and has a 12 month lease ( or some schools wants 24 months) she can move whererever she wants and schools will have to honour it.

Not true. Read Richmond's Secondary School Admissions Brochure. Moving in with a friend won't cut it unless you can prove it's a permanent move. They are very switched on to address fraud and will prosecute.

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 06/07/2023 21:38

MarchingFrogs · 06/07/2023 21:20

Should I try to rent a place or temporary move in with a friend who has a large place ?

Try googling the phrase 'address fraud in relation to school applications'...

As long as she will be listed in Council and has a 12 month lease ( or some schools wants 24 months) she can move whererever she wants and schools will have to honour it.

MarchingFrogs · 06/07/2023 21:20

Should I try to rent a place or temporary move in with a friend who has a large place ?

Try googling the phrase 'address fraud in relation to school applications'...

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 06/07/2023 17:47

hazyday · 18/09/2022 20:48

My son's girlfriend went there, and was happy with it. Different subjects to your son though.

Sixth forms don't tend to have disruptive kids - they're the ones that go to college. 😁

Or they grew out of being naughty by the Six Form time..

Foxyhill · 06/07/2023 17:11

I should add I’m renting so no issues with moving

Foxyhill · 06/07/2023 16:58

Tell me about best methods for moving boroughs to get into Grey Court secondary school. I do have time. My kids currently are finishing year 1 but we are in Kensington Chelsea at a school that goes up to year 6. I’m not well versed at how to do this ; but I’d like us to move to Richmond for secondary school for them. When would we have to move by to apply and be in the catchment ? Should I try to rent a place or temporary move in with a friend who has a large place ? Are there any primary schools that filter into Greys? My kids would have to leave to start year 6 in Richmond? Any help would be greatly appreciated

fouxdafafaff · 23/09/2022 08:08

Bumping again, if anyone knows about Grey Court sixth form? Thanks

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