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Should I tell my DD that her school trousers don't suit her?

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Kimmee · 12/09/2022 16:45

Hi all,

First of all, let me say that this is my first post here and I've tried to word it as tactfully as possible!

Anyway, my eldest DD recently started secondary school and me and her picked out her new uniform together. Her school (thankfully) has a pretty lax uniform policy and considers a variety of styles acceptable, not needing to go to any particular supplier etc. I tried a supplier which I won't name because this is no reflection on them and so it's not fair on them, but I've heard good things about them being reasonably priced yet high quality at the same time.

My DD insisted we look through things together and we settled on a couple of pleated skirts and some senior girls trousers. She was drawn to one style in particular which had a higher waist (which I know is very 'in' right now with girls) and had an internal adjuster which I thought would be good since she has trouble getting things to fit her. To clarify, she's definitely on the chubbier side, but not in a way that's really a cause for worry in my opinion.

Now, it all arrived the next week and I watched her put it on. The skirts fit her fine and looked very smart and flattering on her figure, but not so much with the trousers! I should mention that my DD is also one of the shorter girls for her age at around 4 and a half foot and the trousers came up too high! She was actually wearing the trousers over her waist at the same height she had the skirts which didn't look right at all and frankly surprised me that she found comfortable.

I told her that I thought the trousers were supposed to be worn lower and that they didn't look right, but she insists that she likes them that way and it's fine. While I do admire her confidence in wearing what she wants, I'm also worried that she's oblivious to what might happen at school. I can't help but think that others would make fun of her for it, because she does wear them very high over her tummy (which looks like it's all been awkwardly stuffed in and might pop out of them at any moment!).

As you can imagine, this is especially the case when she sits down, which gives a very unflattering appearance such as the trousers sitting just under her chest or letting you see the outline of her tummy. She does also wear jeans which tend to be quite high waisted, but she can wear tops over them of different materials / styles / colours...Unlike her uniform which always needs her shirt to be tucked in!

My DD is VERY bright, but she's also very sensitive and can suddenly throw a wobbly when she gets upset which I know would affect her excellent work. The question is, how do I talk to her honestly about it and go about stopping the obvious and letting other people's inevitable comments about her trousers get her down? I hope I'm not being harsh here.
Let me guys know what you think!

-Kimmee

OP posts:
AnyOldThings · 13/09/2022 19:55

GeorgeorRuth · 13/09/2022 19:48

I guess it comes down to mum being tactful and directing towards something more flattering and risking getting it wrong....causing problems..or the class bitch ripping the piss out of her...causing problems..which becomes the lesser of two evils.

Having worked with teens and raising one too, this is not really how current teen girls work. It’s not the culture and always very surprising to me at my age but they’re much less focused on that type of shaming and often teen girl groups now won’t tolerate that type of bullying. They still fall out and bullying happens but the culture now amongst teens is much less focused on body shaming/clothes. So I’d definitely say that a mothers wrongly worded criticism, despite being well intentioned, is likely to cut deeper.

Plus chances are it’s the style that’s ‘in’ and fit doesn’t really matter to them.

Teen girls are very different to how they were even one generation ago.

GeorgeorRuth · 13/09/2022 19:48

I guess it comes down to mum being tactful and directing towards something more flattering and risking getting it wrong....causing problems..or the class bitch ripping the piss out of her...causing problems..which becomes the lesser of two evils.

AnyOldThings · 13/09/2022 19:32

Etinoxaurus · 13/09/2022 10:20

My very very blunt talking,
pull no punches when it comes to my failings dds say I was amazing re weight and clothes when they were teenagers. Particularly as they’ve grown up and have more experience of other mothers and friends with ed/ low self confidence.
I never commented and didn’t have scales in the house. They also went to all girls schools with strictish uniforms and I didn’t get involved if they broke the rules.
They're mid 20s now. Healthy slim rather than stick thin and uninterested in clothes although can scrub up if needs be.
I cannot reiterate how bad a parent I was in other areas but it’s interesting that they’ve both recently commented that no scales/ no comment served them well. I’ll see if I can anonymise a shocking pic of dd2- she found it recently and said, “how could you let me out of the house like that?!” 💁🏻‍♀️😂

I took the sane approach. No comments. No scales. It’s worked and DD(16) has no body issues or self esteem problems. She's comfy and confident in her body. Slim but not skinny.

The only comment I make is an understated occasional compliment on what good taste she has or that she looks lovely.

Having been raised by parents who did negatively comment, even if done only in the spirit of kind feedback, I know the mark it left on me.

museumum · 13/09/2022 18:57

Teens will want to wear whatever shape is “in” regardless of their own shape. It’s much more important to them and their peers to wear the seasons shape. High waists appear to be very popular right now. I hate them, on me and in others but I appreciate that at 45 I know nothing about what is the right thing for a 15 year old to wear.
Therefore I don’t think you should interfere.

SamPoodle123 · 13/09/2022 18:51

I would just be honest in a nice way. I would say, the cut is way to high on you and another cut is more flattering to your body type. It does not always have to be about being chubby....but sometimes if you have a long or shorter torso, certain trousers look good or not depending on body type, length etc. I have told my kids when things are too small or tight for them (but they also like to wear clothing that is say for age 5 when they are age 9 lol).

DontMakeMeShushYou · 13/09/2022 10:35

If you must comment then "Those trousers do have quite a high waistband, don't they? Are you happy with them like that? We can always get some different ones if you ever want a change" would be open and non-judgemental.

Idontknowwhatto · 13/09/2022 10:34

Of course tell her. It doesn't have to be done in an unkind way at all. You can suggest the other options, such as 'I think these other xxxx suit you better,' or 'flatter your figure more'. It's up to her whether she heeds your advice or not, but there's no way I wouldn't say it (tactfully.)

yasminisa · 13/09/2022 10:33

I remember starting secondary school and my mother telling her friend that my school skirt didn't suit me. She didn't say it directly to me but I never forgot, and it did affect me. There was no option to wear trousers and I was miserable for years

yasminisa · 13/09/2022 10:31

*dd

yasminisa · 13/09/2022 10:30

With my dad and her friends, body shaming is not accepted. Lots of girls of all shapes wear high waisted trousers etc. they do look better when they sit high up on the waist. I think the problem is you don't understand young fashion any more. You should let her get on with it.

My dad likes to wear v v high waisted or extremely baggy, with short tops, huge shirts and baggy sweatshirts.

Etinoxaurus · 13/09/2022 10:20

My very very blunt talking,
pull no punches when it comes to my failings dds say I was amazing re weight and clothes when they were teenagers. Particularly as they’ve grown up and have more experience of other mothers and friends with ed/ low self confidence.
I never commented and didn’t have scales in the house. They also went to all girls schools with strictish uniforms and I didn’t get involved if they broke the rules.
They're mid 20s now. Healthy slim rather than stick thin and uninterested in clothes although can scrub up if needs be.
I cannot reiterate how bad a parent I was in other areas but it’s interesting that they’ve both recently commented that no scales/ no comment served them well. I’ll see if I can anonymise a shocking pic of dd2- she found it recently and said, “how could you let me out of the house like that?!” 💁🏻‍♀️😂

ItWorriesMeThisKindofThing · 13/09/2022 10:03

I would want to reduce her chances of being bullied too but it’s quite possible she knows more about the current fashion than you - check what her peers are wearing before saying anything!

XelaM · 13/09/2022 09:57

Also it really depends on the school what kids might be bullied for. In my daughter's school it's about having the "right stuff" - like Nike bag, school shoes (black Nike Air Force 1) and water bottle (some dreadful AirUp bottle for £35) - not necessarily the body shape.

XelaM · 13/09/2022 09:53

Boomboom22 · 12/09/2022 22:08

The problem is what you think looks good and what the teens think looks good is not the same.
Tight leggings with bum showing, very tight bright cycling shorts and very very high waisted, I would say ugly, trousers that make your bum look massive and show you have a tummy are what all the coolest girls in 6th form are wearing. Size doesn't matter like it did when we were teens.
So you may be wrong about how she looks and actually that is cool now 😎

This! Fashion is dreadful at the moment and the coolest girls wear some diabolical stuff. My daughter is in that "cool" crowd and they wear Nike Pro shorts that barely cover their bum and tiny denim hot pants- type of shorts. Very rarely is it flattering 😅

Regularsizedrudy · 13/09/2022 09:50

How about “oi Jannette cranky your kegs make you look dumpy as fuck”

or you could just let her wear the trousers she likes and maybe she won’t be discussing this with her therapist in 15 years

CatchersAndDreams · 13/09/2022 09:10

I disagree with the majority on here. Surely if anyone can tell their dds that something doesn't look right it should be their parents. Better then her being taken the piss out of in school.

MissMaple82 · 13/09/2022 09:01

MolliciousIntent · 12/09/2022 16:51

God I hope my mother never spoke about my clothing choices like this.

Why does it matter how she looks at school?!

Because kids bully over things like this

AnyOldThings · 13/09/2022 08:58

@Kimmee DO NOT SAY ANYTHING!!!

if you do you’ll affect her self esteem for years. Possibly life. Your voice, as her mum, is the loudest in her head.

If she’s confident, don’t be the voice that spoils that.

Also, what we consider to not look good does not translate to what teens think. Leave her be.

Moominmammacat · 13/09/2022 08:50

Don't ... I haven't worn jeans for nearly 50 years because of what my mother said.

BloodyCamping · 12/09/2022 23:01

its just your opinion, not hers or other peoples. Give her space to develop her own style.

Stichintimesavesstapling · 12/09/2022 22:29

If you and fake the laundry incident you can blame the trousers "my goodness what were they thinking, it's like they were put together by a drunken mule! The seams, the cut, the alignment are all wrong and are doing nothing for your fabulous figure my darling, let's go and get some properly made ones shall we?"

SoftSheen · 12/09/2022 22:16

I have an 11 year old DD. I would want to do anything I could to reduce the risk of her being bullied, so I think you should say something honest, but not unkind.

I would say something along the lines of 'Those skirts look really lovely on you. Are you pleased with them? I'm not sure the trousers are quite right though. Should we order another style and you can compare to see which you like best?'.

purplethings · 12/09/2022 22:11

Put them on a very hot wash and tell her they must have bern poor quality and they got ruined !

Boomboom22 · 12/09/2022 22:08

The problem is what you think looks good and what the teens think looks good is not the same.
Tight leggings with bum showing, very tight bright cycling shorts and very very high waisted, I would say ugly, trousers that make your bum look massive and show you have a tummy are what all the coolest girls in 6th form are wearing. Size doesn't matter like it did when we were teens.
So you may be wrong about how she looks and actually that is cool now 😎

HavfrueDenizKisi · 12/09/2022 22:02

Wow! Those saying not to say anything really cannot have teenage girls at secondary school. You can instil all the confidence you want with as many body positive phrases as possible but it only takes one horrid comment from a school peer to shatter her. And that is so hard to deal with; once that comment has been uttered she cannot unhear it.

OP you have to try and do something - photos could be a good idea or you have to go with the difficult conversation. You are doing her a disservice by allowing her to go in wearing them as other girls won't phrase anything nicely!

Once she's settled at secondary and has a group of friends then she can wear whatever style she likes. But that's not for the first few weeks of yr 7.