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Girls not allowed to use toilet during lessons - what to do?

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tigerbear · 09/09/2022 09:45

DD has just begun secondary at an all girls school. It’s written into the school policy that they aren’t allowed to visit the toilet either during lessons, or inbetween lessons, ONLY at morning break and lunchtime.
Aside from the dangers of ‘holding it in’, I’m concerned about the discomfort and embarrassment of young girls who are just starting their periods, and getting used to all that entails.

DD and I had a chat last night about periods (the signs are there that she may start soon), and she said she’s concerned about starting at school and it showing on her clothes. I told her that if she does start, just to ask to go to the loo, but she said they aren’t allowed.

Has anyone else ever challenged their DD’s school on this policy, and if so, what was the outcome?

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midgetastic · 09/09/2022 10:05

gogohmm · 09/09/2022 10:04

How long is the gap between school starting and break, the break to lunch, then lunch to home time? If each are no more than 2 hours then there's no reason why they should need the toilet except in exceptional circumstances eg period starting. It was the same when I was at school.

I rarely use the toilet at work between starting at 9.30 and lunch at 1pm, that's 3.5 hours.

I could flood out in an hour

Harriet0101 · 09/09/2022 10:05

I'm a teacher at a girls school (it could even be your school!). We have a similar policy and I told my form yesterday they should be going to the toilet at break and lunchtime.. however, I also said that if it's an emergency and you really need to go just ask the teacher. The policy is there but teachers, especially in a girls school, will understand and won't ever stop a child from going to the toilet. I've had pupils tell me discretly in the lesson they think they have leaked on their period and need to go to the toilet, it's honestly not an issue, and I was glad they felt they could tell me.
The policy is there more for the very small number of girls who will go to the toilet every lesson for 10 minutes just to get out of class. I've had lessons where every 5 minutes someone is asking to go to the toilet and it's disruptive. They could have gone at lunchtime but didn't want to miss social time - simple as.
On the other hand, teacher's have to hold it in as we can't leave the classroom!

gogohmm · 09/09/2022 10:05

If they didn't have these rules the kids wouldn't go in break and would instead deliberately miss class.

HoneyFlowers · 09/09/2022 10:04

My mum used to say to me just leave the classroom and use it, but they were locked up anyway. Do schools still lock the toilets up?

gogohmm · 09/09/2022 10:04

How long is the gap between school starting and break, the break to lunch, then lunch to home time? If each are no more than 2 hours then there's no reason why they should need the toilet except in exceptional circumstances eg period starting. It was the same when I was at school.

I rarely use the toilet at work between starting at 9.30 and lunch at 1pm, that's 3.5 hours.

gratefulmamatobe · 09/09/2022 10:04

This makes me SO angry that this is still the case in schools.

I suffered bladder issues at school and I was given a bright yellow card which I had to show, with much humiliation, in classes if I needed to go.... because toilet visits were otherwise banned.

Since when did we have to justify a simple human right such as needing the toilet? Particularly at an age where these young people are learning to navigate periods. Not to mention the health dangers from "holding it in"

I think it's disgusting and you are absolutely well within your right to complain to the school.

BuffaloCauliflower · 09/09/2022 10:02

Not to mention the risk of UTIs from holding in and not drinking enough water to avoid the loo

BuffaloCauliflower · 09/09/2022 10:01

Shit like this is part of the reason we won’t be opting into the school system. It’s just unnecessary policing designed to control, not help.

I distinctly remember having the surprise arrival of my period in the early days, leaking and not being able to leave class. It was awful. Personally I’d be challenging the school and teaching your daughter if she needs to leave to just leave and you will back her up.

SoupDragon · 09/09/2022 10:01

Unless this is the first year that girls have been at the school it will be something they have come across before. You might find that there are exceptions for periods so it it worth asking for clarification rather than challenging as a first step.

tigerbear · 09/09/2022 10:00

Exactly @Lilypickles1 ! DD has to be really reminded about the importance of drinking enough water throughout the day as it is- she rarely drinks a full bottle of water, but has just started trying to drink more, so needs the loo more often. She said she nearly wet herself the other day, as needed to hold it in until home time.

@ChaToilLeam and @girlmom21 how long do you think I should give it before saying something? I’m very conscious of being ‘that parent’ so early on, and the school is known for being very strict and unbending with their rules.

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HoneyFlowers · 09/09/2022 09:58

I still can't believe in this day and age that kids are being denied access to the toilet. Two opportunities in a day is not enough, what if they forget to use, what if the queues are so long there is no time.

In secondary school they toilets were locked so even if you were allowed to leave the lesson you couldn't use them anyway. I remember at break time going to use the toilet and teacher forgot to unlock them 🥴

girlmom21 · 09/09/2022 09:55

Challenge the school.
My parents did and the rules are more relaxed now.
If she needs to go she needs to go.

ChaToilLeam · 09/09/2022 09:53

Bad policy by the school, I’d be challenging that.

Lilypickles1 · 09/09/2022 09:48

Yeah it’s wrong, even as an adult I can’t just regulate my need to pee to set times someone gives me.

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