Is it acceptable for a child to be given a detention for being too early to lessons?

I wish the OP would come back and give more context.

And yet every other week there are people venting that colleagues disrupt their lunch break by turning up at their desk to chat, uninvited... The answer is not to demand that they have their lunch elsewhere to avoid the intrusion.

There are designated social areas in almost all schools for a reason and the corridors are not usually included. I wonder if a detention is a step too far but once I've ruled out any issues with bullying, I would always encourage early birds to enjoy the remaining breaktime in a social area rather than the corridor outside my classroom.

Some children willingly fuck around on corridors under the pretence of "being early for lessons". Despite multiple warnings they still appear every day, meaning a member of staff has to go out during lunch and deal with them. They do get detentions.

Unless the teacher is being unreasonable which does happen (ex-teacher myself, most of my colleagues were great, some were twats).

I got that sense from the OP, but I guess I could be wrong. Don't get your knickers in a knot unnecessarily!

No child willingly misses their break time. It's really mean to pull them up on it. I wouldn’t mind if they came in and read.

More context is needed. We are constantly chasing students from the corridors because they're not supervised at break times and teachers are trying to have their break or get stuff done in that time and should not be wasting time chasing students away. OP has not said that her child is loitering outside classrooms alone; there may be a group of them thinking that the rules don't apply.

I also have two students who find breaks difficult and so I allow them to sit in my classroom together and chat. The key is that i trust them, they behave impeccably and they have my permission to be there.

Without more context, it's impossible to say.

It's not turning up to a lesson early, it's ignoring school rules and sitting in a classroom when all other students are not allowed.

Its defiance and refusal to follow instructions too.

But context is everything- I would want to know why this student was doing it before I decided how to deal with it.

Because OP buggered off.

I think it is really sad that the teacher has done this without trying to understand what is going on.

how do you know that they haven't tried?

It’s acceptable for a child to be given a detention for repeatedly doing anything a teacher has asked them not to do.

I think it is really sad that the teacher has done this without trying to understand what is going on.

Nothing in the OP suggests that the teacher hasn't.

Perhaps the teacher knows what is going on and has decided that it warranted a detention. Who knows.

I think it is really sad that the teacher has done this without trying to understand what is going on.

If this happened to my child I would a) want to understand why my child was doing this and b) want to discuss with someone at the school why the school chose that course of action.

I would be very surprised if my school did this, the staff seem generally really kind.

If they were asked not to repeatedly, then I think detention is appropriate. But I do hope the teacher asked them why they are doing this. It maybe annoying if the teacher wants some peace to wok/have a break/eat lunch, but it does sound a bit worrying if the student doesn't want to spend time with friends.

Once you let the kid into your classroom:

A) they are under your supervision. If you were planning a quick dash to the loo or the photocopier, now you can't unless you escort them out first - & no, that doesn't mean hanging around the corridor unsupervised.

B) you can't make confidential phone calls, join zoom meetings or - if a KS3 student - cue up a 15 certificate video clip for your GCSE class in two periods time.

C) you will get a bollocking from SLT for breaking the 'no kids in classrooms at break', which is a blanket ban in most schools, so they don't blow themselves up in a lab, or nail themselves to the wall in a workshop.

D) you are putting yourself in a seriously dicey safeguarding situation, as you are now alone with a child in a scenario where you are both breaking scho rules.

So yeah, if the kid is a repeat offender it needs investigating to see why, but a sanction may very well be apt here.

Possibly the child keeps chattering and they can't get on with it. Perhaps he/she just wants a bit of alone time to decompress or eat their lunch. They don't have to be available every moment of the day unless there is a good reason. Perhaps they don't want to be alone with a student in case allegations are made against them or rumours started - not necessarily by OP's child but by others who see them.

I agree with the PP who said it’s because they are in an out of bounds area, repeatedly. Students at my school are not allowed to be inside during lunch or break unless it’s specific designated areas such as the canteen and library. Staff are either busy doing something or having their own lunch & we don’t like kids hanging around unsupervised.

If your dc is doing this because they have no one to hang out with or are being bullied, then you need to speak to their form tutor & also to them to come up with a plan for what they will do

Is there a reason the child keeps turning up early? I needed to sit at the front because of my hearing but if I wasn't early I wouldn't get a seat and this was despite the teachers having been told I had to sit at the front.

Basic safeguarding, children need to be under supervision.

So get on with it then. Unless the child is actually being naughty or disruptive To the point where the teacher can’t go about whatever he is doing , I really don’t see the problem. Maybe the child is very time conscientious and worries he will be late. I know when I was in school I would dread walking into class with everyone else seated. I’ve never known people be told of for being too early. It’s nitpicking.

Maybe the teacher has work to do in his/her classroom.

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While that is often the case it isn’t always. We have several students who have learned that they can disrupt lessons by arriving early and ‘setting the tone’ as it were by messing with stuff, hanging around to distract the teachers and harassing the rest of the class with ‘banter’ as they arrive. Sitting and eating at the desks and leaving a mess behind.

It is annoying once. It is a major problem if it happens continually.

I'm guessing bullying. I used to try this and literally go ANYWHERE except the playground. Toilets, library, next lesson, staff corridor looking for staff to "help" with my work.

I would expect the teacher to talk to the kid during the detention about what’s going on.

Given that the vast majority of schools have broken up, I’m assuming the detention has already happened.

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