Teen injured by classmate in lesson

I'm a knobhead for being a teacher in a room with students and not leaving?

A knobhead for assuming, as a parent, my children's teachers are doing the same?

The Op shouldn't ask for an explanation?

Trying not to be outing, but is it acceptable for the teacher to be absent to get something?

Depends on the class, and the age of the teenagers. Any age, French, English, mats, no problem. 13 year olds, woodwork workshop, home ec kitchen and (arguably) science lab, probably best not.

No teacher is getting convicted of anything for leaving a class of secondary age students for 30 seconds.

Ask yourself why it is OK for students to spend some time unsupervised? Why is the playground somehow magically different? The students know where I am if I'm grabbing a sheet.

Yes, students are left on their own, during some parts of their day, but not in lessons.

So when the cover teacher is walking over from the other side of school and the class is waiting for them in the room, who supervises them in your school?

I left my class this morning because I felt myself flood through a tampon. We're all human!

What was the injury op? And how much actual learnings time was lost? Unless the teacher was missing for a huge amount of time you're blaming the wrong person

Because you were not there?

Not patronising or rude. Read the thread and the responses from others. You are aware a student was hurt in the absence of a teacher?

Yes, students are left on their own, during some parts of their day, but not in lessons.

@thewineisout stop being a knobhead. Nobody asked for that.

Of course a teacher can leave the room to get something teaching in a secondary school. They're not 5 year olds.

The victim needs to report whatever happened & witness statements taken from those who are there and the matter would be dealt with internally.

If you're saying it's serious and an assault etc nothing to stop you going to the police.

Without details it's hard to know whether you're overreacting or if something serious actually did happen. Big difference between someone flinging something across a room and it hitting your kid to the child being stabbed with a pen on purpose.

"well done". You are patronising and rude.

Children spend plenty of time unsupervised in school. Nipping out to grab a worksheet is not unreasonable. Why would I lie to an ofsted inspector?

You are still responsible. Well done for saying you are sorry their child was hurt, Still on you. I assume you would tell an Ofsted Inspector the same? I wasn't here because ......

No idea myself, but curious to hear the outcome of a incident this week at my dcs school where a stupid act by a student indoors resulted in a fairly bad injury to another student requiring 25+ stitches to the head

I tell them I'm going for a wee because while they get a break every 2 hours, I don't.

A parent did ask once why I left the classroom. I was pregnant and needed to be sick. They were fine and understood.

I'd say I was very sorry your child was hurt. Id also say that I nipped put for 30 seconds to get something I'd forgotten because I am human and forget things. I didn't expect your child to be hurt in that time. It would be incredibly unlikely for a child to be so badly hurt in the max 30 seconds it took me to grab the sheets.

Nipping out for a resource doesn't change the questions you would need to be able to answer if a student was hurt whilst you are not there. Herisback - what would you tell me as parent? My child is hurt, but that's ok?

Supply staff and support, of course you must assist (because circumstances are exceptional).

Fights in the corridor (absolute priority)

A culture of nipping out isn't ok.

Leaving for a wee. What do you tell your class? Sanitary changes - I get it. I do also remind HR that enabling staff to have these breaks is essential. (50s and menopause - I get it)

Children are alone with other children on the way to school, in corridors, in the toilets, when they are waiting for a teacher to turn up for homework help, when the cover teacher doesn’t turn up etc. I think some teachers on mumsnet work in utopian schools of their imagination.

Witness statements need to be written up by those in the room asap before the persuasion to write something different ‘for their mate’ starts. Which will be happening now because of social media and it’s the weekend. The class will pick allegiances.

I'm not sure there are injuries I'd describe as "serious" that aren't on that list TBH @NeverDropYourMooncup

I am surprised at the teachers saying they must never leave a classroom.

If you're thinking of a personal injury claim for one pupil injuring another, I remember this one www.lawteacher.net/cases/mullin-v-richards-1998.php

RIDDOR reporting applies for;

Fractures (other than to fingers, thumbs or toes)
Any amputation
Dislocation of the shoulder, hip, knee or spine
Loss of sight (temporary or permanent)
A chemical or hot metal burn to the eye
Any penetrating injury to the eye
Any injury resulting from an electric shock or electrical burn (including any electrical burn caused by arcing or arcing products) leading to unconsciousness or requiring resuscitation or admittance to hospital for more than 24 hours

Any other injury leading to:

• Hypothermia, heat-inducted illness or unconsciousness
• Resuscitation or requiring admittance to hospital for more than 24 hours

Loss of consciousness caused by asphyxia or by exposure to a harmful substance or biological agent

Either of the following conditions which result from the absorption of any substance by inhalation, ingestion or through the skin:

• Acute illness requiring medical treatment; or
• Loss of consciousness

Acute illness which requires medical treatment where there is reason to believe that this resulted from exposure to biological agent or its toxins or infected material

In an ideal world of course you'd be in there all the time but we all know that isn't reality.

Supply teacher across the way hasn't got the work because they can't login. Nip over and log them in and set the class off.

Cover hasn't turned up for another class who are out in the corridor. Go and talk to them, find out which class and send an email to get it sorted.

Y11 fighting in the corridor during their break time while my lesson is going on. Walk into the corridor and leave my lesson to break up the fight.

All scenarios that leaving the classroom was the right thing to do.

Hercisback - how about you don't forget what you need?

Obviously teachers are superhuman and therefore never forget anything. We are human and make errors. Genuine question, if you forgot something, what would you do? Because nipping out of the class for 30 seconds is better than 30 mins of no work!

I left when I was pregnant to be sick. Again what's the solution there?

I leave now if I need a wee or sanitary change (3 hour stretches and longer in some cases).

It's not ideal to leave the room but sometimes there's no choice. When the wifi is playing silly buggers, I can't do the register. So I have to go to the office to call to say Bob is missing because Bob is on the VP list.