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If you went from state primary to private secondary….

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Waiting4Spring · 23/02/2022 17:29

If your DC went from state primary to private secondary how did you phrase/explain this to the other parents at the primary school? And how did you phrase it to your DC?

I have a tendency to overthink. A lot. I also often phrase things wrong, and really want to get this right. I know we are very fortunate to have the choice of private and that a lot of current classmates don’t. We are not in a particularly rich area and I’m not sure anyone else in their year group is looking at private. I want DC to keep current friendships if they want to, and generally for no one to think badly of us for going the private route (that we are stuck up or whatever). Any advice would be much appreciated.

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starterset · 24/02/2022 15:54

I think it's a bit naive to think you can just name the school and move on. Around here, parents talk about NOTHING ELSE for about a year, and will ask you lots of detailed questions about your choices, even if they hardly know you. FWIW we found that the only negativity came from those who could have gone private but decided to go state. We earn on the lower end of the salary scale necessary to fund private education, and know quite a lot of people who earn considerably more than us but decided that they couldn't afford to go private (basically because their outgoings are much higher than ours). A couple of those parents were actually downright rude pretty frosty about our decision. Whereas the parents who were never in a financial position to consider private school were perfectly fine.

As for practicalities, I think it's useful to try to have a couple of reasons for choosing the school that aren't strictly related to the fact that it's a private school, if possible. So that if you are quizzed by other parents, you've got something fairly neutral to say (whether that's transport, or a particular sport, or something). With the children, we had a sort of mantra along the lines of 'we're lucky that there are lots of good schools around here (which is true), and different people will choose different schools for different reasons, and this is the one we chose'. I agree that it's never a good idea to start telling them their school is 'better', and I would absolutely never say to them that it's sad for other people that they can't have that choice. I know a parent who did that (genuinely thinking it was a 'nice' thing to say), and her child proceeded to tell all their friends how sad it was for them that they couldn't afford to go to the same school...

Prettynails · 24/02/2022 15:43

@DobbyTheHouseElk

We just said that we were sending DC to x school. Left it as that. Generally people are really positive about it. One person wasn’t but I expected that. She has a large family and we don’t. She has expensive holidays and we don’t…etc. She has a chip on her shoulder because all her friends DC go private. She’s known from preschool times that we were going private in secondary so it shouldn’t have been a surprise.
This.

I just said X is going to ..... school. One friend is very anti private but she was positive about us doing what was right for us.

HavfrueDenizKisi · 24/02/2022 15:40

Goodness all these suggestions to explain yourself and be humble.

Just state it as matter of fact as you can with no reasons necessary and no denigrating the other parents choice.

Honestly do you feel the need to explain why your kid goes to bed at 9 or has time limits on Minecraft or other such parenting decision? Of course you bloody well don't. So don't start now.

Some parents will raise an eye. Some will say they'd never do private and try and make you feel rubbish for your choice and some will say good for you.

The important thing is you've made your decision and you are not to care what anyone else thinks. End of.

puffyisgood · 24/02/2022 15:14

@NC938738953685

Better to use the word ‘independent’ than ‘private’ probably op
'Independent' comes across as quite, well, very pretentious to the 'man in the street'. It's one to use amongst, at most, other parents who can afford it or who have a degree of familiarity with 'that world'.

The best thing to do is:

(a) stress that you/the child is fortunate to be able to afford it, be humble about it; and
(b) narrow in on a couple of specifics that you like about the private school, e.g. class size, single sex, facilities, clubs, tell the truth.

UnconditionalSurrender · 24/02/2022 14:50

DS is at state secondary. Some of his good primary school friends went private. None of us ever asked why they went private but some parents felt the need to explain. It seems obvious that they think their kid will get a better educational experience. If asked, just say 'We want to'. Its true, straightforward and anything else just sounds patronising.
When asked why we don't send DS private I just say I don't want to. For the same reasons. No other explanation needed.

Hoppinggreen · 24/02/2022 14:49

Funnily enough the only parent who stopped speaking to me over this was someone who’s parents offered to pay for her child to go to the same Private school DD was going to but her husband wouldn’t allow it
Nobody else had a problem with it, including those who couldn’t afford it and some who could but chose not to.

NC938738953685 · 24/02/2022 14:47

Better to use the word ‘independent’ than ‘private’ probably op

Fridgeorflight · 24/02/2022 14:42

I've taken the approach of not mentioning it unless asked and then saying DD is going to X. If asked anything further, it's "We think X will really suit DD." That's an honest answer without any specific judgement on our local comp.

RedskyThisNight · 24/02/2022 14:25

@Thewindwhispers

If asked, you say “X is going to Y school.”

If asked why (and most people don’t, bc it’s obvious) then to the parents you say something like “X has struggled a bit the last few years, she’s so sensitive, such a pain! I’m not sure she’ll cope well with secondary school so we’re trying out smaller class sizes, maybe that’ll help her. Costs a bloody bomb though, guess there are no posh holidays on our horizon for a while!” And to your child you say “Look you know how some foods are ok but others taste better? Well that schoolyour friends are going to is ok, but we think you’ll have much more fun at this one, and we’re very lucky we can afford it, not everyone can. So don’t boast about it to your friends because we don’t want to make them sad, but this is a much nicer and more fun school.”

Really don't say any of that! Avoid anything that suggests you are going to the private school because clearly it's better than the state school. (I mean obviously you've chosen it because you think it is, but you don't need to labour the point).

Just say you decided X school would be better suited to your child, if asked. Do not elaborate as to why.

intwrferingma · 24/02/2022 14:23

@AlexaShutUp

I think you're massively overthinking it. Just say "x is going to y school next year", and if they ask you why, you just say that, all things considered, it seemed like the best fit for your dc.

Don't assume that everyone else would make the same decision if they could afford it. Quite a few of dd's primary school friends went to private secondary schools. DD didn't, but not because of the finances. We just didn't think it was worth it and preferred the state option.

Some won't send their kids to private schools because they can't afford the fees. Some won't send their kids to private schools because they have moral objections to private education. Some won't send their kids to private schools because they think that would be a monumental waste of money. Best not to make any assumptions.

Very good point. OP is assuming she's the only parent who can afford to pay; many others may be able to but simply don't want to. They might disagree with private education or might just believe their child will do well anywhere.
intwrferingma · 24/02/2022 14:20

Don't overthink it. Your child won't hang on to those primary friendships for long.
Least said best mended is the right approach. Keep it simple and move on. Your child will - if you've made the right choice.

user1485813778 · 24/02/2022 14:16

I think worst approach is a patronising ‘justification’ eg I would send x to y local comprehensive but know they couldn’t cope with size/grandparents have given money specifically for that purpose but I’d be perfectly happy with local comp etc etc. Just own the decision. Others parents don’t need you to make them feel ok about their decisions/options. Also pretending until last minute that their child is going to local comp when actually there’s a private option that gets whipped out at last minute. Sensing a parent is embarrassed about their child going private around me would feel a bit insulting.

DPotter · 24/02/2022 14:03

Agree with others - just say if asked X going to Y school as we think it's the best fit.

And don't over think or try to manage new freindships at secondary level. DD was the only person to go to her secondary school - the others were split between 2-3 others. She managed to keep the old friendships going for a couple of years then things petered out naturally as new friendships picked up.

TenoringBehind · 24/02/2022 13:48

Fwiw, friendships change hugely in y6. They all get sick of each other and are mostly ready to leave their primary friends behind and make new friends, even if they go to the same school as the primary school friends.

TenoringBehind · 24/02/2022 13:46

You are definitely overthinking this.

Conversations generally went like this:

Other parent: ‘Which school is your ds going to next. My dc is going to [1 of 3 local state schools]’
Me: ‘name of independent school’
Other parent: ‘great’

Conversation moves on to other more interesting topics. No judgment, no drama.

ExtremelyDelighted · 24/02/2022 12:04

I would totally avoid any mention of "better" or "more fun" schools versus OK ones. For one thing year 6 children need to know its about specifics such as class sizes, facilities, single-sex vs co-ed or whatever and be involved in the decision making. For another the last thing you want is for them to have the perception of some schools just being better or worse than others. So "best for you because specific reasons" rather than just better generally.

nearlyspringyay · 24/02/2022 11:55

My kids are in y6 state, we don't know where everyone is going until offer day but they all know who did and passed the 11+, who has had interviews for the out of catchment faith school, who has been to interviews / sat exams at the private schools / which state schools they've applied for.

The parents NEVER SPEAK of it. It is what it is. I went from private primary to super selective. Didn't need a big conversation.

AlexaShutUp · 24/02/2022 11:18

@Thewindwhispers

If asked, you say “X is going to Y school.”

If asked why (and most people don’t, bc it’s obvious) then to the parents you say something like “X has struggled a bit the last few years, she’s so sensitive, such a pain! I’m not sure she’ll cope well with secondary school so we’re trying out smaller class sizes, maybe that’ll help her. Costs a bloody bomb though, guess there are no posh holidays on our horizon for a while!” And to your child you say “Look you know how some foods are ok but others taste better? Well that schoolyour friends are going to is ok, but we think you’ll have much more fun at this one, and we’re very lucky we can afford it, not everyone can. So don’t boast about it to your friends because we don’t want to make them sad, but this is a much nicer and more fun school.”

Wow, I certainly wouldn't say that to the child...I would just say that there are lots of schools to choose from, we think this school will suit you best, other families might make different choices for their kids based on what they think will suit them best.
HavfrueDenizKisi · 24/02/2022 11:14

Conversation at school gates as follows:

Other parent: which school did you get for little Johnnie?

You: Johnnie has a place at Indy school

Other parent: oh! Didn't realise you were looking at that school. What's wrong with Comp School Downtheroad?

You: nothing. We've chosen Indy school as it's the best fit for Johnnie. Anyway world book day hey? I'll be glad to see the back of annoying dress up days (insert another benign conversation starter here).

Job done

Thewindwhispers · 24/02/2022 11:13

If asked, you say “X is going to Y school.”

If asked why (and most people don’t, bc it’s obvious) then to the parents you say something like “X has struggled a bit the last few years, she’s so sensitive, such a pain! I’m not sure she’ll cope well with secondary school so we’re trying out smaller class sizes, maybe that’ll help her. Costs a bloody bomb though, guess there are no posh holidays on our horizon for a while!” And to your child you say “Look you know how some foods are ok but others taste better? Well that schoolyour friends are going to is ok, but we think you’ll have much more fun at this one, and we’re very lucky we can afford it, not everyone can. So don’t boast about it to your friends because we don’t want to make them sad, but this is a much nicer and more fun school.”

AlexaShutUp · 24/02/2022 11:07

I think people will only take it badly if you express your assumption that their kids are somehow less fortunate than yours. That would get my back up, whereas a different choice of school wouldn't.

ExtremelyDelighted · 24/02/2022 11:03

Impossible not to say, the conversations are about little else for months on end. We had specific reasons for our two taking this path and no one as far as I know has taken it badly, the DCs are 16 and 18 now and I'm still friendly with all the mums I got to know at primary school.

AlexaShutUp · 24/02/2022 10:54

@Boombastic22

Gosh, I suspect you’re slightly naive to think these friendships will remain.
Not necessarily. My dd has stayed friends with a few of the kids who went private for secondary. It just depends on how they change as they're growing up and whether they still have stuff in common.
AlexaShutUp · 24/02/2022 10:51

I think you're massively overthinking it. Just say "x is going to y school next year", and if they ask you why, you just say that, all things considered, it seemed like the best fit for your dc.

Don't assume that everyone else would make the same decision if they could afford it. Quite a few of dd's primary school friends went to private secondary schools. DD didn't, but not because of the finances. We just didn't think it was worth it and preferred the state option.

Some won't send their kids to private schools because they can't afford the fees. Some won't send their kids to private schools because they have moral objections to private education. Some won't send their kids to private schools because they think that would be a monumental waste of money. Best not to make any assumptions.

SeasonFinale · 24/02/2022 10:46

Don't say unless asked. When asked just say they are going to (name) school. Nothing more needs to be said. If they press for answers why. Just say its the choice we think will suit them best.

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