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Any advice please dd has made no friends at High school

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easterdaffsx · 22/02/2022 12:21

Id really appreciate any advice please . Dd age 11 has made no friends at secondary school .
At first it was all good as there were lots of activities to encourage new friendships but now she feels isolated and so very sad all the time because everyone seems to have drifted off into friendship groups and she has made no friends . The ones she did make now don't invite her to anything and hide from her when she's coming so she sits in the toilet .
She dreads lunchtime amd break time .
She told me she knows why she has no friends and it's because she's immature, weird and irritating and those were own words and she really believes this .
She has always struggled to make friends and does have some attachment issues. I just don't know where to go from here to support her .
I've asked if there is anyone she wants to invite out for hot chocolate or similar but there is no one she knows well enough . I've suggested she join a lunchtime club but she doesn't want to go alone amd says everyone goes with a friend .
She's an anxious child anyway.
She is so desperate to join in amd do all the things other girls her age are doing amd it's heart breaking seeing her so sad .
She does have friends outside of school but they are the girls in the year below her still at primary . She always got on well with people slightly younger (July baby) and that's been okay at a small primary school .
She also sees amd gets on well with many of my friends children but they all go to different schools (private).
I shouldn't compare with my other dc I know (all grown up now) but they all had such lovely strong friendships I just don't know how to support her with this . I haven't been as present with dd as I was the others as my job now requires a lot of hours so I am looking for other opportunities with less hours but it will take a long time it's not going to happen quickly .
If I move her school will I just be moving the problem ? I've asked her this and she wants stay and discuss that again with me at Easter which I think was quite brave
At the end of half term she really broke down and told me she'd made up being friends with some girls because she didn't want to worry me when I asked so I'm really sorry that my own anxiety has been transferred and I hope I've reassured her that I want to support her 100% and she needs to feel able to talk to me . She literally shakes amd sweats when talking about school . On a positive note she's putting a lot of energy into catching up at school and her grades are reflective of that )
She's having some private cbt with a lovely lady amd we practice mindfulness although possibly not regularly enough .
Sorry for long post and if anyone can offer any suggestions thank you .

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Wordlewobble · 22/02/2022 23:03

I remember mid way through year 7 was absolutely horrible for my DD who was also young for her age her three best friends turned on her in their quest to get with the more popular crown. DD was not into more mainstream things such as make up, fake tan, skimpy clothing, throwing herself at or running after boys and striving to be popular etc.

Hopefully the counsellor will help your DD and she will find her tribe or one or two good friends from the less popular crowd as my DD did but not until year 8.

Maybe do lots of nice things together out of school and look out for other clubs and activities inside and outside school. Some quieter kids at DD’s school help out in the library on a lunch time?

Take care its awful seeing your child so unhappy and feeling powerless x

AiryFairy1 · 22/02/2022 22:51

Poor DD, seems likes there’s good advice here.
Hope things get easier for her - I think my DD is similar (immature, a bit odd, misses social cues, her teacher thinks there may be some asd traits), so following with interest.

raspberryjamchicken · 22/02/2022 22:46

That's so sad. My DD is Y7 a d has struggled making new friends too, although she luckily has one friend from primary school. It's so hard not knowing how to help them. Definitely speak to the school about pastoral support. Form tutor is usually a good place to start. They might be able to support her with joining some clubs. At least then she will have an activity to keep her occupied so she doesn't have to sit by herself at lunchtimes and she can hopefully get to know some people while they are occupied with an activity.

Also keep up the friendships with the younger pupils and facilitate her seeing them outside of school.

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BlueToYou · 22/02/2022 19:48

Have you considered she may be slightly on the spectrum and the autistic spectrum? Her description of herself "immature, weird and irritating" can fit this profile.

It can mean making friends is harder. It may be very mild but mild enough to cause issues in a brand new place like a big secondary school. It can be overwhelming at the start even for kids with the best social communication skills.

puffyisgood · 22/02/2022 14:37

I have known moving school be successful in this situation - if nothing else being the new girl is an ice breaker/makes it less weird to outright ask if it's OK to join a group. But of course there are no guarantees. It sounds drastic & likely a non-starter [e.g. it might contravene one or more of LA/school etc policies] but MIGHT there be scope for dropping her down a year & starting yr 7 again at the same school as one of the younger girls who you say she gets on with?

If you knew any other parents in her form group you might discreetly say that your DD is struggling & ask if their kid would mind having her tag along for a while.

Out of school activities, especially IMO with slightly older kids, would be an excellent idea IMO.

Attending a school club alone might not be 'the done thing' but it surely beats hanging round the playground or classroom alone?

It sounds silly but it might help to try to make sure her hair & clothes etc are reasonably good/fashionable [tho definitely not OTT].

If it's a co-ed school then it MIGHT be easier for her to tag along with a group of less macho boys, boys can be on average [not always] a bit more straightforward.

gingerhills · 22/02/2022 12:58

I'm so sorry. DS2 had this issue and it was heartbreaking. You are doing all the right things getting her some CBT to help her process her emotions and keep them rational.

I agree with all PPs - contact HoY or form tutor and see if she can be paired up with another girl who is struggling (there will be others) or with a gentle soul who doesn't care about being cool and is happy to include her at lunch or go to a club with her.

Meanwhile, I'd organise sleepovers/movie pizza nights/ trips out with some of her younger friends. No reason not to keep those friendships going too.

Is she weird, as she says? DS2 is a bit. He's HFA and so never tries to conform with others, he just does his thing. It meant that friendships were fewer and more gradual but he does have good friends now, both from school and at uni. If she may be high functioning autistic she will need additional support. Getting it sooner rather than later will help.

Lindy2 · 22/02/2022 12:57

I don't think moving school will necessarily help. I'm assuming she's only been at Secondary school for a term and a half. It's still relatively early days and I doubt all the friendship groups are completely set yet. Friendships at this age can be pretty fluid and ruthless, unfortunately.

I think you need to work on her meeting new people.

I know she doesn't want to go to school clubs alone but it really would be a good way to engage with new children that she maybe hasn't spoken to before. Are there any she could be persuaded to go to? Perhaps a sport where they are doing an activity without the pressure to chat? Even a homework club where there may be 1 or 2 quieter children she could work alongside.

Out of school clubs like guides/scouts, martial arts of some sort or drama (both of which could really boost confidence). The first step might be a bit nerve wracking but if she really wants to make new friends she needs to create the opportunity for that to happen.

boxoftoads · 22/02/2022 12:52

Year head is a great place to start,
Ours encouraged DD along to a lunch time club and eventually she did go.
Is there a Guide group near you that’s not affiliated with her secondary school? Guides is a great way to make new friends outside of the pressure of school.
I feel for you OP - we are in this situation too x

Duracellbunnywannabe · 22/02/2022 12:52

I’m an ex secondary teacher. Ring and speak to the head of year. School will have seen this before abd will be invite only social groups at lunch and social skills groups she can go to or they will ask staff to tweak seating plans.

McScreamysGhostPants · 22/02/2022 12:52

I've been in your shoes and I contacted my daughters class/form tutor. She was very understanding and put a plan into place where my daughter would have her packed lunch dinner in a class room with the other kids that didn't want to go outside. There was a lunch time club as well and after a weeks so was put with the teachers that run the lunch club as a helper. She felt ok with that as she was there for a purpose and didn't need a friend but by being there every day she naturally found a friend or two. By serving year she was fine and part of a group of 5-6 girls.

HavfrueDenizKisi · 22/02/2022 12:47

Please speak to the school and yr 7 head. They are usually very good at supporting kids who have a hard time making friends. It really is the best thing you can do now. And do it asap.

penelopequiche · 22/02/2022 12:44

I really do sympathise. My DD is a bit older and has had very similar problems. Have you contacted the school? My DD didn't want me to but actually they have been really good. They have strategically placed her next to a couple of kinder kids and she has gradually settled a bit more. I think it's a big move and hard for a lot of kids, realistically it might take more than 6 months for her to settle in. I also think Covid has created a very odd environment at school and that hasn't helped.

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