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Worried ds is going to be kicked out of Y12. If he is, what happens next...?

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newdocket · 05/10/2021 14:34

DS1 started sixth form in September. He did not work for his GCSEs, but did quite well. Obviously things were difficult for him - as they were for all of them - during the lockdowns, he certainly struggled with online learning. Once school opened again, he got into quite a lot of trouble in year 11 for his consistent lateness, which is not at all excusable given we live five minutes walk from the school, but overall, he seemed happier being at school than he had with the home learning.

Anyway, I had hoped that sixth form would provoke a bit of a change in his behaviour/attitude, that it would be a fresh start. This has not been the case. Within two weeks, I had been contacted by the head of sixth form saying they were worried about his lack of engagement (not handing in homework, consistently being late, sometimes very late, being disrespectful to teachers). I talked to him, explained that I thought the logical conclusion of him carrying on like this would be him being kicked out, he said he would change. He hasn't. He's been late almost every day (despite us getting him up in good time, taking him coffee, cajoling him etc). It's almost as if he is doing it on purpose (I've suggested this to him and he says not, but I think he must be). He has not handed in several homeworks (again, we have asked him about it again and again and he says he has done it).

I don't know what to do. He's nearly 17, it's very difficult to make him do anything. I've tried being very on his case and getting off his case and everything in-between. Does anyone know what can/might happen in this kind of situation (how long will a school put up with someone not turning up on time, for example?). And if the worst happens, is it a case of having to find an alternative, given he has to be in education until he is 18?

Sorry for long post.

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TreeTurningYellow · 05/10/2021 14:46

Argh, pressed too soon, how will he pay for these things in future himself? These are things he needs to think about. The bank of Mum and Dad and house of Mum and Dad isn't available forever.

Frymetothemoon · 05/10/2021 14:45

Maybe just sit him down and be brutally honest, along the lines of "You are now about to be expelled from school. What is your plan?" If it's not school, he needs to come up with something else realistic

PineappleWilson · 05/10/2021 14:45

DS in further down secondary, but we're having conversations as his parents about letting him fail, because he won't learn otherwise. I put breakfast on the table and maybe ask if he's up once in passing but that's it. He has an alarm, he has a bus to catch, he knows he has to be out by X time to get a lift with me and by Y time if he's walking to the bus. It's his choice.

Tell your DS this. He's old enough to be working so should be taking responsibility for himself. You'll put a cup of coffee on the dining table, but he's what 17? 18? He can get himself up and out. In the nicest possible way, stop parenting him getting up. If he could get up and dressed at 10 he can do it now.

Maybe give a local college a call about what happens if he drops out of sixth form - whether he can get an apprenticeship, for example, whether they require him to wait until next September before starting something. If he does drop out, and can't get into another type of training, I'd be expecting him to work and contribute to your household. There are PT jobs out there now, especially in retail and hospitality. Telling him this in advance may help give him the kick that he needs.

TreeTurningYellow · 05/10/2021 14:45

Take or restrict the things that matter, phone, xbox/playstation etc. These are privileges not rights.

TreeTurningYellow · 05/10/2021 14:44

There is no legal requirement for him to be in education post 16, this is completely different to school. They can kick him out and they will.

You need to talk to him about what happens if they do, what are his plans? He needs to see that realistically he needs to be doing something if he isn't doing A levels. He also needs to know that if he fails year 12 he cannot resit the same subjects at the same sixth form. Why would they give him a place again?

You need to talk to him about the long term implications of his choices now.

newdocket · 05/10/2021 14:43

HunkyPunk - thank you :-). Felicity, yes, this is the case. I guess we need to look at what kind of apprenticeships are available. Tbh, I'm concerned he wouldn't want to apply himself at anything...

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FelicityPike · 05/10/2021 14:40

Is it not he has to be in education or training? Would he go for a job/ apprenticeship?

HunkyPunk · 05/10/2021 14:38

God, they can be such hard work at this ‘neither child nor adult’ age. I’m sorry, no advice, but loads of empathy.