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Travelling to school in the dark

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JigglyPuff123 · 30/09/2021 20:00

DC started y7 and has been travelling independently to school. Gets a bus at 7.45 or 7 depending on activities to school, and gets home either 4.30 or 5.30. Ten-minute walk to bus stop along lit but not hugely busy london roads. Am I being mad to let DC walk this by themself? I don’t really have a choice as I have a younger DC at home and I can’t be doing 20-min round trips daily on foot. It’s been fine so far but I’ve just realised this will all be in darkness relatively soon.
Does anyone have any great tips to make DCs feel safer travelling to school in the dark in winter?

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Fluffypastelslippers · 30/09/2021 21:30

I wouldn’t be able to meet at bus stop most nights as I’m ferrying other DC to and from clubs. It’s not really the 4.30/5.30 evenings that bother me though as there will be a decent amount of people about. It’s the 7.45 and the 7a

So why can't you do the morning if that's what bothers you?

Houseofvelour · 30/09/2021 21:09

@Hellocatshome

I always wonder why people find the dark so scary. You are in London so I imagine there are plenty of streetlights so its not dark dark. There will still be people around.
Go on the BBC news page and there you will see articles of Sarah Everard who was abducted in London, where there were street lights with people around. Just because there are streetlights and people does not mean it will be safe.

OP, I personally wouldn't let my dd walk 10 mins in the dark by herself to stand alone at a bus stop.

bumblingbovine49 · 30/09/2021 21:05

@Clickbait21

Personally no. I don't think anyone should be walking alone in the dark unless absolutely necessary no matter their age. Really doesn't sound safe to me at all.
Really? no adult should ever be walking on their own in the dark between before 7.30am or after 4pm from November to January Hmm

I do however think it would be nice if someone could walk the opens year 7 child to the bus stop when it is a 7am start . The 7.45am.start will probably be light most of the time anyway

I imagine it isn't possible to meet the bus in the evening and but going with them at least for the 7am starts to see them on the bus might be nice

The times they arrive at 4.30pm will mostly be light as well ( or at least only just getting dark as they get home anyway )

SummersOverSeasideTown · 30/09/2021 21:00

better safe than sorry

But the reality is no matter what you do you are not safe. There has to be a balance between living and existing.

The greatest danger to UK children is a road accident yet we are disproportionately scared of kidnap.

NerrSnerr · 30/09/2021 20:57

@Clickbait21

Personally no. I don't think anyone should be walking alone in the dark unless absolutely necessary no matter their age. Really doesn't sound safe to me at all.
Does that mean you never walk anywhere alone before 7am and after 5pm in winter? To the shop, home from work or to the post box etc?
WishingYouAMerryChristmasToo · 30/09/2021 20:54

[quote Iloveabourbon2]I don't want to make you feel guilty OP. But people are passing it off as nothing. I know it must be difficult as you have other kids. But is there nobody else that goes to your child's school who lives near by?

Does anybody rember this story of the man trying to kidnapp a young school girl? Posted the link. metro.co.uk/2021/08/14/man-who-kidnapped-and-raped-schoolgirl-in-london-jailed-for-20-years-15088720/[/quote]
Everyone is a potential criminal. Walk in a group if you can - don’t take a short cut don’t ignore someone following you go straight to the nearest house with a light on and phone 999 if you are worrying behaviour, a car follows you or a person or any attempts to get you to talk to them - better safe than sorry

WishingYouAMerryChristmasToo · 30/09/2021 20:50

Don’t engage in any conversations - someone says have you seen my puppy, don’t stop, someone says I have a message from your mum, don’t stop etc it’s 4 pm not 9 pm. Oh and attacks happen in broad daily not just at dusk

BakingOfTheFoodCats · 30/09/2021 20:50

*Well they're not a teen....

But also, really? We were always jealous of the ones who got a lfit home once it turned dark and cold!*

From the op she says it will be on foot not driving? Which is very different

WishingYouAMerryChristmasToo · 30/09/2021 20:49

Don’t get in a car. Don’t stop walking. Ring 999 if concerned and tell the people that they are doing it. Mine know ring 999 first and then me

JigglyPuff123 · 30/09/2021 20:49

@WishingYouAMerryChristmasToo Thank you that’s very helpful advice.

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Iloveabourbon2 · 30/09/2021 20:47

I don't want to make you feel guilty OP. But people are passing it off as nothing. I know it must be difficult as you have other kids. But is there nobody else that goes to your child's school who lives near by?

Does anybody rember this story of the man trying to kidnapp a young school girl? Posted the link. metro.co.uk/2021/08/14/man-who-kidnapped-and-raped-schoolgirl-in-london-jailed-for-20-years-15088720/

WishingYouAMerryChristmasToo · 30/09/2021 20:47

Mine have a mobile phone - always charged. In the dark I have lights - actually brought them for the dogs led clip on lights that flash and they put them their bags and coats. Both coats are black with have large fluorescent triangles on the back of the coat in the Middle of the back - easy to buy as tape off Amazon and then I cut out a triangle and stick it in the middle at the top. All have pin rape alarms they walk with it wrapped around their wristband pull the body off if they want to alarm to go off. Thermal underwear and decent waterproofs and gloves and hats - all go on radiators when they get in for the next morning

JigglyPuff123 · 30/09/2021 20:47

@Fluffypastelslippers I wouldn’t be able to meet at bus stop most nights as I’m ferrying other DC to and from clubs. It’s not really the 4.30/5.30 evenings that bother me though as there will be a decent amount of people about. It’s the 7.45 and the 7am.

@SleepingStandingUp I’ve told DC if scared to walk fast don’t stop and go in a shop if necessary. Is there anything else I should tell them? Any advice welcomed.

@BrilliantBetty Therr are no classmates living nearby.

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Fluffypastelslippers · 30/09/2021 20:42

@BakingOfTheFoodCats

Tbh I would imagine teens would get teased for being picked up by their mums?!

Not a teen. Not getting picked up.

A year 7 being met at a bus stop.

Clickbait21 · 30/09/2021 20:37

Personally no. I don't think anyone should be walking alone in the dark unless absolutely necessary no matter their age. Really doesn't sound safe to me at all.

Iloveabourbon2 · 30/09/2021 20:31

@BrilliantBetty

Are there any classmates living close by, so they could travel together. At the very least.

This sounds unsafe, she is still very young. Perhaps that is clouded for you as you have little ones but year 7 is still just a kid.

I agree.
Hellocatshome · 30/09/2021 20:31

DC often the only person at bus stop. so that doesn't bother you when its light, why does it bother you when its dark?

SleepingStandingUp · 30/09/2021 20:29

@BakingOfTheFoodCats

Tbh I would imagine teens would get teased for being picked up by their mums?!
Well they're not a teen....

But also, really? We were always jealous of the ones who got a lfit home once it turned dark and cold!

SleepingStandingUp · 30/09/2021 20:28

I did it at that age. Not London but was coming home from school and not getting in until gone 5 some days.

What kind of jacket and bag do they have? I'd possibly look at something reflective you could add on that won't get them bullied.

Do they know what to do if they get scared and think they're in danger?

I agree of a morning it would be a pita, could you coincide pick up on the evening so you're coming past when they get to the b7s stop?

BrilliantBetty · 30/09/2021 20:25

Are there any classmates living close by, so they could travel together. At the very least.

This sounds unsafe, she is still very young. Perhaps that is clouded for you as you have little ones but year 7 is still just a kid.

BakingOfTheFoodCats · 30/09/2021 20:23

Tbh I would imagine teens would get teased for being picked up by their mums?!

JigglyPuff123 · 30/09/2021 20:22

I should’ve put this in AIBU, it seems as divisive.
It’s the 7am that really bothers me. We are zone 2 but it’s pretty quiet round here. DC often the only person at bus stop. It would be a right pain to get younger DC up and dressed to walk older DC to bus stop, wait for bus and come home again. Don’t need to leave home for primary school till 8.30.

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BrilliantBetty · 30/09/2021 20:21

No chance would I allow my year 7 child to be travelling alone in the dark.

I would be walking to / collecting from the bus stop.

I'm a Londoner too.

RobinPenguins · 30/09/2021 20:20

Would have thought this would be the norm in London, it is in my city? My mum insisted I have reflective strips on my bag or my coat. Otherwise, I was travelling in busy areas with streetlights during prime commuter time, it’s not like I was wandering alone down a country lane or something.

HighRopes · 30/09/2021 20:20

Dd1 has been doing the walk to the tube in the dark when necessary since Y7. There are street light and people around, as it’s commuter time. It’s part of going to secondary school in London.