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A level choices for yr 11’s who’ve missed big chunks of curriculum

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ContessaVerde · 30/06/2021 14:26

Hi, I’m not sure if there is a thread already about A level choices.
I just think it’s particularly tricky for young people to decide; my dd did a maths taster where she was told that the basis for A level was the higher level maths gcse content.
She was in set 2, doing higher level, got a 7 in her December mocks, bit feels she’s missed so much content she’ll never be able to keep up.
I’ve heard in the past that even getting a A isn’t good enough to do A level maths, you really have to have nailed all the content with an A * just to consider it.
So surely Maths A level is now only advisable in a very few cases where schools did carry on delivering the curriculum through the lockdowns?

I’m wondering if maths is the only subject that massive gaps in teaching is going to affect?

It’s shoddy that there aren’t going to be any catch up progammes to try and make up for thhe gaps and it will just be on individual schools to muddle through.

Anyone else feeling like this year group is going to be badly affected ongoing?
Anybody got any good ideas about how to overcome the challenges?

Thanks

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catndogslife · 30/06/2021 16:04

Do we think that maths and science are more affected by this than other subjects?

For A level Sciences pupils often start Y12 with different prior knowledge because some pupils will have taken 3 separate Sciences and others will have taken the Combined Science 2 GCSE route.

TeenMinusTests · 30/06/2021 16:02

I suspect that maths, science and MFL will be more impacted as those subjects build more on knowledge whereas humanities build on skills. Though going into A level on a lower skill base will have its own issues I guess.

A motivated student studying for an hour a day could get quite a lot covered in July and August I would have thought.

randomlyLostInWales · 30/06/2021 15:58

Do we think that maths and science are more affected by this than other subjects?

I think maths and some sciences are going to be expecting to build on knowlege the students should have learnt to some extent - that's not going to be true for the new subject DD12 is taking and I'm not sure about Geogrpahy or other humanties subjects.

EwwSprouts · 30/06/2021 15:54

DS's school made them work through these books as prep for A level.
www.cgpbooks.co.uk/secondary-books/as-and-a-level/maths/mbr72-head-start-to-a-level-maths-(with-online-edi

randomlyLostInWales · 30/06/2021 15:51

Neither DD1 school or her new college have said anything or given any advice about filling in any gaps.

We've asked for advice on here with maths and got some good sugestions - and also found some Bridging the Gap books in a few of her next years subjects and got some AS-level study guides so she can look at next years syllabus.

I'm a little worried about one AS-level sceince she wants to do that came out as B - least that's the preliminary grade - enough to proceed to AS level but they'd predicted A* for most of the course (Wales kept A_G grades) so we'll have to see how she gets on with AS level and try and fill any gaps in ourselves.

ContessaVerde · 30/06/2021 15:46

Who is "everyone"? If it is her school I'd be concerned

She’s hoping to move as her school has been poor for SEN support.

The place she has been for a taster is telling her that she should be doing maths.

Really useful ideas here re: needing to complete the curriculum independently.
She’s found the disruption to school really stressful, and has benefitted for having a bit of time off to recuperate a bit. The assessment period was gruelling.

I’ll discuss with her about doing some independent study to make up lost ground.

Do we think that maths and science are more affected by this than other subjects?

In which case the d of e needs to think about it because they were already struggling to get students to do stem.

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KittyMcKitty · 30/06/2021 15:00

My youngest is in year 11 and will be studying science A levels. They have been told to ensure they have no gaps in curriculum and will have baseline tests in September to ensure those coming from other schools have covered everything. There have also had some extra lessons for physics to cover the small part of the spec which wasn’t taught before they left.

The summer work is quite heavy but tbh is good practice for A level.

ChloeCrocodile · 30/06/2021 14:57

But everyone is telling her that if she wants to take physics she must do maths.

Who is "everyone"? If it is her school I'd be concerned that the physics teachers aren't used to having non-mathematicians in the class and so won't have recent experience of teaching the maths skills required. However, both my current and previous schools are happy to take physics students without maths and have dedicated "maths for a level physics" work at the beginning of year 12 and again in year 13.

Missing GCSE content has been a bit of a problem this year (I teach physics) as many year 12 students stopped work in March last year and didn't ever do the independent study during study leave which really helps them embed the knowledge. I expect the same will be true next year, though in our case the students did have to sit pretty rigorous assessments in June so I hope that helped!

TeenMinusTests · 30/06/2021 14:55

I have a year 11.

If I had a year 11 who was going on to A levels I would be encouraging them to 'finish' the GCSE syllabus in any subject they were continuing on with to A level.

If she is staying on at her current school they will expect gaps and presumably account for them. If she is moving to a different school which taught better over lockdown, or moving to a large 6th form college, then filling gaps in advance may be more important.

NotAnotherPushyMum · 30/06/2021 14:41

[quote ContessaVerde]@TotorosCatBus
She is strong in science, especially physics, not that thrilled about maths anyhow and is now feeling like it will be too much.
But everyone is telling her that if she wants to take physics she must do maths.[/quote]
It’s really hard to do physics without maths. Lots of places near us make them do ‘maths for physicists’ extra courses if they don’t do a level.

NotAnotherPushyMum · 30/06/2021 14:40

My ds is doing a level maths this year, after getting a 7 in gcses last year, and is doing just fine. I think it would depend on how well the teachers are doing at filling any gaps they come across.

ContessaVerde · 30/06/2021 14:39

@TotorosCatBus
She is strong in science, especially physics, not that thrilled about maths anyhow and is now feeling like it will be too much.
But everyone is telling her that if she wants to take physics she must do maths.

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ContessaVerde · 30/06/2021 14:37

I don’t think so, certainly not the first lockdown. The d of e suspended the curriculum, many schools weren’t able to provide online learning, and the exams were eventually cancelled due to the fact that so many pupils had missed so much curriculum.

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TotorosCatBus · 30/06/2021 14:36

Sciences will have the same problem.

My dd did A-level maths this year. Some GCSE topics aren't studied in further depth for A-level so not knowing some stuff won't be the end of the world. What kind of topics is your dd strong in?

Some subjects at A-level require no specific GCSE knowledge so she can start sixth form like a "normal" year.

GreyhoundG1rl · 30/06/2021 14:28

very few cases where schools did carry on delivering the curriculum through the lockdowns?
Surely most schools did?

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