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Corona Cohort Y12 into Y13, braving the storm of the third wave

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Monkey2001 · 20/06/2021 11:24

Supportive thread for parents of Y12 students going into Y13.

Previous thread - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/4240252-Thread-16-Corona-Cohort-Year-12-2021-Zooming-through-Summer-Term

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Piggywaspushed · 23/06/2021 13:43

I shall bide my time on arguing the point with the teacher. Unfortunately for him, I have the research data that show bright pupils from state schools lack aspiration snd are also disadvantaged in applications by cautious UCAS predictions. This was such a hot topic in the whole CAG debacle last year. Everyone always assumes UCAS grades are the same as actual predictions. In reality, some are far too generous and top unis bang on about this, overlooking that many more are found to be correct, or overly cautious.

Monkey2001 · 23/06/2021 13:38

@Piggywaspushed

Great drama result!

Slight annoyance with economics teacher here who says he will UCAS predict DS an A because he 'never predicts A*'.

Sounds like a conversation with Head of Year needed. The variability in prediction strategies is so unfair. Our school has a performance on a "good day" policy, DS2's old school asked students what they wanted to be predicted and gave them at least what they asked for unless they had a good reason not to!
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Alsoplayspiccolo · 23/06/2021 13:28

That’s exactly my point, Piggy - she’s being blinded by RG because she has no idea how to rank non RGs.
She was really interested in Bath, until she discovered they don’t offer English 😩

How ridiculous of your DS’s teacher! We have heard a lot of that sort of talk, with regards to DS (year 10) not getting 9s in reports from teachers who “never give them”.
So frustrating, but more so for your DS for predictions!

Piggywaspushed · 23/06/2021 12:59

Great drama result!

Slight annoyance with economics teacher here who says he will UCAS predict DS an A because he 'never predicts A*'.

Piggywaspushed · 23/06/2021 12:58

Don't forget that Bath, Loughborough and Lancaster aren't RG and are all better than quite a lot of RG unis!

Alsoplayspiccolo · 23/06/2021 12:45

Great idea about printing out course details, thanks!
Should we be looking at a range of grade requirements? DD has only considered RG so far (not that she knows anything about RG, but is listening to her peers and following suit). No point in having 5 choices that are all a stretch, I’m guessing, but it’s easier for her to decide between the smaller pool of RG unis, than have to navigate the vast array of non-RGs Confused

Alsoplayspiccolo · 23/06/2021 12:33

Good to know that it’s still early in the process, thanks.
School have set a deadline for first draft outline PSs to be submitted in a fortnight, which has sent DD into a flap.

Some good news today, though - she got 85% in her drama (written) exam, joint highest in the class with the head girl 🤩

KingscoteStaff · 23/06/2021 12:29

Yup, that’s column 7b of her spreadshit…

Monkey2001 · 23/06/2021 10:41

I agree it is early in the process now, unless you are considering forces with 15th October deadline, and difficult to get them engaged of their friends are not thinking about university.

Most of DS1's friends took a gap year and the one who didn't wished he had! A couple changed their minds about what they wanted to study and the one who did start dropped off and did a course closer to home. DS1 changed 2 of his medical school choices the second time he applied, and ended up rejecting an offer from one of the ones he had applied to first time round. As you only get funding for 1 degree, IMO it is worth taking time to make sure you choose the right course for you, and a bit of maturity will help to make the right decision.

@kingscotestaff do you know that most medical schools don't really use the PS with the exception of UCL (use it heavily and score it) and Aberdeen, Birmingham, Cardiff, Imperial, King's, Lancaster, QUB, St Andrews and UEA (don't score it, but tell you what they want to see on it to pass the stage gate of PS review).

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estherfrewen · 23/06/2021 09:51

DS has got a decent draft PS. A swimming friend who started at Cambridge this year gave him some tips as nothing much from school except do a draft! This boy was at same school so they were probably more organised pre COVID. The PS is nothing like I imagined they would be! So short and so focused - I have friends at work with older kids and have picked their brains. I thought originally you would do one for each Uni, or each subject, but clearly not!! He spoke to the sixth form admin yesterday as his senior tutor wouldn’t turn up for their PS tutorial - she is on the case so that’s good. It worries me that their tutor has been like this and that 20 plus kids are missing the input.

Online open days has been good in that you can do far more of them and it doesn’t matter if they clash, but conversely there is far more choice. We narrowed it down to campus based except Cardiff which he knows well, sporty but not performance sport as has had enough of that, most interesting history courses as he doesn’t know what he wants to do but that is his favourite subject. At the moment toying with law eventually or RAF.

Great news re jobs and interviews. DS doing lifeguard course over summer.

Fferny1 · 23/06/2021 09:34

DS has been practicing writing his p.s. for the last couple of weeks in tutor time. His tutor commentated in his latest school report that he needs to sell himself to the universities not detail his failings in exhaustive detail 😄 .
I think he's used to critiquing himself as they do this in school ( as how can they do better) but has never needed to do the opposite.

Piggywaspushed · 23/06/2021 09:04

@KingscoteStaff

With my far less together DS, I printed off 5 or 6 course descriptions (he at least knew roughly which subjects he fancied), redacted the university name and left them on the kitchen table. That started a conversation.

I don’t think they get motivated to work on PSs or prepare for aptitude tests until they have something specific to aim for.

I did a version of this (not so organised , I just read them out!) and it was really useful with DS1.
EversoDelighted · 23/06/2021 08:56

Mine has only really started showing an interest since half term and even then its a bit half hearted, however he is sure he wants to stay within an fairly small radius of home (90 mins drive or thereabouts) and we have got a couple of subject areas of interest. I was talking to another mum yesterday with the same age DC but at college not DS's 6th form and she was quite surprised that we'd been to a couple of open days already and I am getting the same impression from a lot of my other friends too (most here go to the same college).

KingscoteStaff · 23/06/2021 08:48

With my far less together DS, I printed off 5 or 6 course descriptions (he at least knew roughly which subjects he fancied), redacted the university name and left them on the kitchen table. That started a conversation.

I don’t think they get motivated to work on PSs or prepare for aptitude tests until they have something specific to aim for.

Fiddlersgreen · 23/06/2021 08:40

@Alsoplayspiccolo I’m in the same boat with DS, he has no clue what he wants to study or where he might want to study.
No mention of personal statements at all.
I’m hoping the college will start them on all that in September.
I wanted to try a few open days or even just visit some uni cities in the summer but we don’t have any idea where to go yet!

Piggywaspushed · 23/06/2021 08:32

My only words of wisdom are it's still really early, despite what many schools say!

I did learn from a school presentation last night that our lot will have a Jan 29th deadline , like the year before, for UCAS.

Alsoplayspiccolo · 23/06/2021 08:25

I’m trying not to panic here, but DD has only shown real interest in one uni (Exeter...because her friends want to go there and it looks nice Hmm), still has no firm idea what she’d like to study, hasn’t thought about writing a personal statement, has no real idea what her predicted grades might be (exam results not out yet), and DH and I have no idea where to start with help.
She’s currently more concerned about the various social engagements she’s been invited to between now and the end of term.

You all seem so switched on about the whole process - any words of wisdom?

crazycrofter · 23/06/2021 08:21

Good luck with DD’s interviews @Orangecinnamon21. Dd has some 11 plus tutoring starting next week, £30 a week for 2 hours. I hope she can remember her Maths!

Ds is desperate for a job but options for under 16s are so limited. Even paper rounds seem to be dying out.

Dd has Psychology and RS exams today, History tomorrow and then she’s done - just one paper per subject.

Shimy · 23/06/2021 07:42

Good luck to Orange’s DD with the interviews. Nard What a pain having to delay everything until September. We’ve had exams like that in the past and literally the whole hols is taken up being on edge and studying. It’s very odd they should choose to do it that way as most schools are doing resits around that time.

Nard75 · 23/06/2021 05:58

Well done to everyone on driving successes and great exam results. DS exams aren't until September and these will be used for ucas predictions. He will have the whole summer of revising and at least if he had done them now like most schools he could've had a more relaxing summer.

Orangecinnamon21 · 22/06/2021 22:53

@Fiddlersgreen

Good luck to your DD with the interviews *@Orangecinnamon21* it’s all good experience too. DS has been looking for a job but no luck so far. There doesn’t seem to be much about here, all the restaurants are asking for 18+ and the retail vacancies mostly wanted complete availability. He has applied for a few things though so fingers crossed
Thanks all...must admit am worried as we are getting away for a week end of July.

She does break up after next week though (college). I hadn't quite realised how much seasonal work there is in the area ..we are quite lucky.

The most exciting place to work around where I grew up was Chessington Zoo !

ealingwestmum · 22/06/2021 22:35

Good luck to her Orange 🤞

Fiddlersgreen · 22/06/2021 22:33

Good luck to your DD with the interviews @Orangecinnamon21 it’s all good experience too.
DS has been looking for a job but no luck so far. There doesn’t seem to be much about here, all the restaurants are asking for 18+ and the retail vacancies mostly wanted complete availability. He has applied for a few things though so fingers crossed

icanbewhatiwant · 22/06/2021 22:02

@KingscoteStaff you have reminded me of ds1 he really enjoyed the buster keaton films. I think we have a dvd set of them. He also made a film with his mates in Keaton style. That was really good. Ds2 isn't into film studies as much.

KingscoteStaff · 22/06/2021 22:01

Thanks Piggy - I thought they'd be on Amazon Prime!

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